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He does have dreamy eyes...

5 out of top 10 threads right now are about Golovkin so yes noone is that good.

I don't understand why GGG doesn't take Lara's challenge? It would at least give him a common opponent measuring stick for a future match-up with Canelo. Unless, that is, it scares Canelo off?

I think Lara would give GGG some problems, and he always comes to fight. He took Angulo's best shots and ended up standing, so he can take a punch. In my mind Lara is better than Canelo, and landed the only hard shots that were meaningful in the fight. Canelo's 50 body punches trumped everything though I guess.

Badhusker wrote:I don't understand why GGG doesn't take Lara's challenge? It would at least give him a common opponent measuring stick for a future match-up with Canelo. Unless, that is, it scares Canelo off?

I think Lara would give GGG some problems, and he always comes to fight. He took Angulo's best shots and ended up standing, so he can take a punch. In my mind Lara is better than Canelo, and landed the only hard shots that were meaningful in the fight. Canelo's 50 body punches trumped everything though I guess.

While I consider a fight against Lara to be an interesting one especially compared to boring beating of Murray, it doesn't add anything to GGG's resume. People will say that he defeated another light middle who didn't even look too good against Angulo. Besides, Lara and Canelo have totally different styles, so fight with Lara will not help with Canelo fight in any way.

Also, isn't Lara a Haymon fighter making a fight with him close to impossible ?

tiny_acres wrote:What I find most peculiar are the people who say Floyd should move up and take on GGG
but defend GGG for not moving up to super middle.It makes no sense to me.

Who is saying that? I for one am not. I don't blame Mayweather or his team for not wanting that fight. It would be a massacre. If Mayweather wants to retire undefeated then he must steer clear of Triple G, but if he wants to boost his all time P4P status then a win over Triple G would have to be the best fight there is to do that.

I hear a lot more people calling for Ward to fight Golovkin than Mayweather. Hypocrisy works both ways on this site.

He won't need to be all that fast as long as he can continue to cut the ring off effectively, even with that said though, he still can be hit. He hasn't had to prove he has a great chin yet because no fighter has really been the type of puncher that has cracked him cleanly and often enough for us to gauge that yet but hopefully we'll get a chance.

I think he's skilled enough to hang with anyone but I just question what it will be like if he gets hit with shots like Geale landed on him by someone who can truly punch often enough?

For the time being, going by the comp he has fault then so far he has been too good to be true, time will be the ultimate test though once he's matched with better comp or if he has to move up because there is no good comp then it will be the moment to truly come back to this question.

I wasn't slagging off GGG by any means, I'm just more curious what people think are his weak spots.
No question he's been knocking it out of the park lately, his power is incredible and I'm trying to think of someone in more recent history that has had that kind of effect on opponents.
Lara has been mentioned, for my money I don't think Lara would be able to take that kind of heat to be honest.
The only fighter that springs to mind that could beat him is Andre Ward, I don't think Canelo or Cotto could do it.
GGG has been great for the sport so far and has injected an excitement level not seen in quite some time.
Lets see how he gets along.

ikorolev wrote:Nobody is saying that Floyd SHOULD move up and fight GGG. What people are saying is that Floyd COULD fight GGG at LMW where he already fought and where he holds a belt. He fought Canelo at 152, so why can't he fight GGG at 154 ? His father says that GGG is not a good boxer, so it would be another easy win :)

GGG isn't a champion at 154, isn't a big draw yet and has yet to even fight at 154 as a professional. How about GGG moves down to 154 and establishes himself as a top 154 lb. champion, then him fighting Floyd becomes a realistic discussion.

GGG is dominating one of the weakest divisions in boxing right now, barely makes it into the top 10 P4P, has yet to headline a PPV event and has never fought at 154 as a professional or even considered moving to 154 other than if he can get a Floyd fight. GGG hasn't earned it, that's the bottom line. Floyd would gain nothing for fighting GGG at 154. GGG is the man for calling out a former Super Featherweight who's 38 years old, yet says he's not ready to move up to Super Middleweight and truly test himself. Yeah GGG is the man and too good to be true calling out all these smaller fighters while sticking around in one of the weakest divisions in boxing and calling out all the smaller guys who past 35 years old. GGG too good to be true, well at least his supporters make him out to be that way.

There comes a point where common sense is clearly clouded when it comes to clown shoes like yourself. Everyone is ducking GGG, yet he won't go up in weight and challenge himself. GGG has options, he can continue to fight at MW like he probably will and continue to fight C level opponents, he can move down to 154 and establish himself as a top fighter in that division where there's much better competition (since everyone claims he can make that weight easily with a shred of evidence), or he can do what other greats have done and move up a weight class with much better competition and prove the hype that surrounds him. But I know how people like you work, GGG will stick around at MW where there are no world class fighters (other than a blown up 154 lb. fighter in Cotto who's 36 years old) and you will continue to claim everyone is ducking him regardless of his reluctance to move up in weight or move down to 154 unless he's fighting Floyd (which won't happen because he hasn't earned it).

NateJR wrote:

ikorolev wrote:Nobody is saying that Floyd SHOULD move up and fight GGG. What people are saying is that Floyd COULD fight GGG at LMW where he already fought and where he holds a belt. He fought Canelo at 152, so why can't he fight GGG at 154 ? His father says that GGG is not a good boxer, so it would be another easy win :)

GGG isn't a champion at 154, isn't a big draw yet and has yet to even fight at 154 as a professional. How about GGG moves down to 154 and establishes himself as a top 154 lb. champion, then him fighting Floyd becomes a realistic discussion.

GGG is dominating one of the weakest divisions in boxing right now, barely makes it into the top 10 P4P, has yet to headline a PPV event and has never fought at 154 as a professional or even considered moving to 154 other than if he can get a Floyd fight. GGG hasn't earned it, that's the bottom line. Floyd would gain nothing for fighting GGG at 154. GGG is the man for calling out a former Super Featherweight who's 38 years old, yet says he's not ready to move up to Super Middleweight and truly test himself. Yeah GGG is the man and too good to be true calling out all these smaller fighters while sticking around in one of the weakest divisions in boxing and calling out all the smaller guys who past 35 years old. GGG too good to be true, well at least his supporters make him out to be that way.

Yeah, right. Floyd is just selecting best available opponents at 147 and 154, not limited fighters like Guererro, Maidana, Canelo (who was exposed by Trout prior to the Floyd fight and by Lara after it). By fighting the best like Pacquiao, Thurman, Lara, Andrade and yes, Golovkin, he could earn huge respect of hardcore fans he has been losing.

ikorolev wrote:

NateJR wrote:

ikorolev wrote:Nobody is saying that Floyd SHOULD move up and fight GGG. What people are saying is that Floyd COULD fight GGG at LMW where he already fought and where he holds a belt. He fought Canelo at 152, so why can't he fight GGG at 154 ? His father says that GGG is not a good boxer, so it would be another easy win :)

GGG isn't a champion at 154, isn't a big draw yet and has yet to even fight at 154 as a professional. How about GGG moves down to 154 and establishes himself as a top 154 lb. champion, then him fighting Floyd becomes a realistic discussion.

GGG is dominating one of the weakest divisions in boxing right now, barely makes it into the top 10 P4P, has yet to headline a PPV event and has never fought at 154 as a professional or even considered moving to 154 other than if he can get a Floyd fight. GGG hasn't earned it, that's the bottom line. Floyd would gain nothing for fighting GGG at 154. GGG is the man for calling out a former Super Featherweight who's 38 years old, yet says he's not ready to move up to Super Middleweight and truly test himself. Yeah GGG is the man and too good to be true calling out all these smaller fighters while sticking around in one of the weakest divisions in boxing and calling out all the smaller guys who past 35 years old. GGG too good to be true, well at least his supporters make him out to be that way.

Yeah, right. Floyd is just selecting best available opponents at 147 and 154, not limited fighters like Guererro, Maidana, Canelo (who was exposed by Trout prior to the Floyd fight and by Lara after it). By fighting the best like Pacquiao, Thurman, Lara, Andrade and yes, Golovkin, he could earn huge respect of hardcore fans he has been losing.

Yeah Thurman would be a great win, he's proven so much with is best win being against a well past it Carlos Quintana lmao. Yeah Canelo is so overhyped, he's 2 and 1 in his last 3 fights against the likes of Trout, Floyd and Lara who are much better fighters than either Thurman or GGG have stepped into the ring with as professionals. God you're a dumb Mufuka. Andrade? Bitch please .. I will give you Lara and Pacquiao being good opponents based on them actually proving themselves against the best, even though they've both lost at least 2 out of their last 4 fights. Out of those guys you've mentioned only Lara and Pacquiao have proven themselves and earned a shot. GGG, Thurman and Andrade? Dumb mufucka .

NateJR wrote:

ikorolev wrote:

NateJR wrote: GGG isn't a champion at 154, isn't a big draw yet and has yet to even fight at 154 as a professional. How about GGG moves down to 154 and establishes himself as a top 154 lb. champion, then him fighting Floyd becomes a realistic discussion.

GGG is dominating one of the weakest divisions in boxing right now, barely makes it into the top 10 P4P, has yet to headline a PPV event and has never fought at 154 as a professional or even considered moving to 154 other than if he can get a Floyd fight. GGG hasn't earned it, that's the bottom line. Floyd would gain nothing for fighting GGG at 154. GGG is the man for calling out a former Super Featherweight who's 38 years old, yet says he's not ready to move up to Super Middleweight and truly test himself. Yeah GGG is the man and too good to be true calling out all these smaller fighters while sticking around in one of the weakest divisions in boxing and calling out all the smaller guys who past 35 years old. GGG too good to be true, well at least his supporters make him out to be that way.

Yeah, right. Floyd is just selecting best available opponents at 147 and 154, not limited fighters like Guererro, Maidana, Canelo (who was exposed by Trout prior to the Floyd fight and by Lara after it). By fighting the best like Pacquiao, Thurman, Lara, Andrade and yes, Golovkin, he could earn huge respect of hardcore fans he has been losing.

Yeah Thurman would be a great win, he's proven so much with is best win being against a well past it Carlos Quintana lmao. Yeah Canelo is so overhyped, he's 2 and 1 in his last 3 fights against the likes of Trout, Floyd and Lara who are much better fighters than either Thurman or GGG have stepped into the ring with as professionals. God you're a dumb Mufuka. Andrade? Bitch please .. I will give you Lara and Pacquiao being good opponents based on them actually proving themselves against the best, even though they've both lost at least 2 out of their last 4 fights. Out of those guys you've mentioned only Lara and Pacquiao have proven themselves and earned a shot. GGG, Thurman and Andrade? Dumb mufucka .

The whole notion that somebody needs to "earn" a shot at Floyd is very convenient for him and his dick riders. It allows him to not fight great fighters when they are in their prime. They only reach that "have earned" point when they are out of their primes.

Speaking about Canelo, he could have easily been 1-3 in his last 4 fights with the only win over the shot Angulo if judges were not giving him rounds he never won. One even managed to give him a draw in the Floyd fight.

fergusg wrote:

ikorolev wrote:Speaking about Canelo, he could have easily been 1-3 in his last 4 fights with the only win over the shot Angulo if judges were not giving him rounds he never won. One even managed to give him a draw in the Floyd fight.

Canelo has only lost one fight and it is absolutely impossible to claim that any of his most recent victories were robberies.

Ferg my friend you can not sit here and say with a straight face that the Trout and Lara fights could of not gone either way.
They were close and anyone who saw otherwise is blind as a bat.

fergusg wrote:

tiny_acres wrote:

fergusg wrote: Canelo has only lost one fight and it is absolutely impossible to claim that any of his most recent victories were robberies.

Ferg my friend you can not sit here and say with a straight face that the Trout and Lara fights could of not gone either way.
They were close and anyone who saw otherwise is blind as a bat.

That’s not what I’m saying. There’s a huge difference between a close fight where there was no clear winner... and a proverbial “robbery”.

Score of one of judges in each of Trout, Mayweather and Lara fights was clearly biased, so we can't exclude robbery here.

fergusg wrote:

ikorolev wrote:Score of one of judges in each of Trout, Mayweather and Lara fights was clearly biased, so we can't exclude robbery here.

No! We can only accuse one judge per bout of being incompetent! The fact of the matter is that, according to the media, more of them thought that the right man won!

I only believed that the Canelo-Lara fight was close, so it doesn’t bother me if people score the fight by one or two points either way, but there was clearly no robbery!

When one judge is bribed, blackmailed or just too close to one of fighters to deprive the other one of any chance of getting his vote, it is robbery.

He's an excellent fighter, and that's the truth.
But "too good to be true"? What's true? What's too good to be that?
If you're expectation is that he's boxing's God and your personal savior, you might ask this question..

Just kidding- No offense meant.

I trust my eye, and I see an excellent fighter, one of the best in the world at the moment.
But I also recognize that the quality of opponents makes the fighter, when it comes to true greatness, and he hasn't accomplished too much of note as a pro up to this point. Careers and lives often turn on a dime, also.
He's almost fledgling still, when it comes to big fights. He's just arriving. Everyone needs to calm down. He'll have plenty of good competitive and well dangerous fights before he's done. In about 5 years, we'll be better able to tally it all up and he'll stand where he stands.

The prospects are very good that TripG will entertain us greatly for a while to come, and for that we should just be thankful.


F*ck what ya heard, Boxing is still the sh*t.

@assclown

The point is you throw out names like GGG and Thurman who simply haven't fought good enough opposition to even consider them "Career defining" wins. You practically have GGGs balls touching your bottom and then criticize someone like Floyd when GGG hasn't accomplished 1/4 of what Floyd has as a professional. That's a fact. How can someone who has yet to even fight a top 10 P4P opponent be a career defining win for the best fighter in the world? We don't know what the future holds for GGG or Thurman'' they're both very good fighters (have yet to prove they're even close to "GREAT" fighters), but in no way shape or form are they proven fighters. There are guy with losses on their records that have proven much more and fought much better competition and deserve a big fight against Floyd over either of those guys. It's convenient for dumbasses like you to throw every flavor of the month as someone Floyd is ducking even when he's fighting better opposition than any name you've mentioned and his opponents have fought better opposition than the names you mentioned as well. You're a clown and a dumbass, I'm done debating with stupid.

@floydsdicksucker

You shouldn't be so worried. Floyd knows that he would get his ass kicked by GGG and possibly Thurman too, so there is no chance he will risk his precious 0.

You arguments are ridiculous: Maidana with 3 losses pre-Floyd is somehow more proven than GGG ??? The only thing he has proven is that he is a limited and beatable fighter.

There are repeatedly contradictions across these forums to suit peoples arguments at any specific time.
Canelo was weight drained to fight Floyd yet its ok for GGG to make a weight he aint fought at before in order to fight Floyd.

He would then be classed as weight drained if he didnt win the fight.

This world has gotten so ridiculous. No one can grow into celebrity organically anymore. The result is overhyped and overplayed entertainers (some) with serious potential who never make it because the public flocks too hard to anything that's "trending".

Right now, GGG is trending, and the sheep fan is taking everything his does too far.

Seriously, how long have some of you been watching boxing? Haven't we all seen fighters who look invincible and indestructible until they faced top class opponents. I'm not saying this will happen to GGG, but stay measured and let him develop.

Damn, some of you must the type of dickheads who get a girl's phone number then runs home and tells their family they got engaged.

RELAX. Act like you seen it before, because you have.

ikorolev wrote:@floydsdicksucker

You shouldn't be so worried. Floyd knows that he would get his ass kicked by GGG and possibly Thurman too, so there is no chance he will risk his precious 0.

You arguments are ridiculous: Maidana with 3 losses pre-Floyd is somehow more proven than GGG ??? The only thing he has proven is that he is a limited and beatable fighter.

Yeah, actually he is much more proven than GGG. Madaina was undefeated until he fought a very good fighter in Amir Khan, which was his first loss. Khan is a much better fighter than anyone GGG has fought, easily (not even debatable). Devon Alexander, Adrien Broner, Victor Ortiz, Floyd Mayweather are all better fighters than anyone GGG has faced as a professional. Your argument is just plain stupid logic if you think because GGG has beaten a bunch of C level fighters in one of the weakest divisions in boxing and he's knocking them out that he's proven more than guys who have fought some of the best and have a couple losses. That's not how it works you dumb ass.

Retards like yourself are trying to say that GGG is better Marvin Hagler now lmao. Listen to yourselves, you're off your hinges. You sir are the moron of the month, us as a boxrec community should make you a plaque.

NateJR wrote:

ikorolev wrote:@floydsdicksucker

You shouldn't be so worried. Floyd knows that he would get his ass kicked by GGG and possibly Thurman too, so there is no chance he will risk his precious 0.

You arguments are ridiculous: Maidana with 3 losses pre-Floyd is somehow more proven than GGG ??? The only thing he has proven is that he is a limited and beatable fighter.

Yeah, actually he is much more proven than GGG. Madaina was undefeated until he fought a very good fighter in Amir Khan, which was his first loss. Khan is a much better fighter than anyone GGG has fought, easily (not even debatable). Devon Alexander, Adrien Broner, Victor Ortiz, Floyd Mayweather are all better fighters than anyone GGG has faced as a professional. Your argument is just plain stupid logic if you think because GGG has beaten a bunch of C level fighters in one of the weakest divisions in boxing and he's knocking them out that he's proven more than guys who have fought some of the best and have a couple losses. That's not how it works you dumb ass.

Retards like yourself are trying to say that GGG is better Marvin Hagler now lmao. Listen to yourselves, you're off your hinges. You sir are the moron of the month, us as a boxrec community should make you a plaque.

Cry, bitch, cry. You just can't take it that Golovkin brings excitement and demolishes his opponents, while Floyd is boring as hell and barely escaped a loss from the limited fighter like Maidana.

I was not comparing their resumes. I was saying that Golovkin would beat Mayweather at 154.

Besides, we all know that he would defeat #2 and #3 middleweights whoever they are leaving them no chances.

Someone on Istagram has found a new opponent for Golovkin. My money is on GGG KO. D

In much the same way Tsyzu was before Vince Phillips bounced right-handers off his chin for 10 rounds.

he is very good, but not as good as he seems at this point.
so in this sense what is seen right now is too good to be
true. real question is what he does against a great defender.

could be that he all of a sudden looks very normal against
someone like ward. chavez could go the distance with him,
though he'd be battered terribly. cotto would suffer a bad
defeat.

though that fight will never happen, i think floyd handles him
with surprising ease.