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Ricky_ wrote:

expe wrote:Grabs, clinches and fouls yes, but to suggest he faked a dislocated shoulder is utter shite you effing belm, watch the fight again, you can actually see that it's out of place on the video. It was technically a separation anyway, as it was caused by an injury to the muscles connecting the shoulder to the arm, not the bone coming out of its socket.

he was leaning on it. "Hey ref, my shoulder is out"... while his bodyweight is being supported by his shoulder:

chucktaylor wrote:BHOP is nearly 50, so BFD if he loses to a bigger man whose in his athletic prime. He can use the 'got old overnight' excuse for any future fight at this point. Kovalev isn't going to be winning world titles at that age or even at a decade younger for that matter. He'd better win for the sake of his own generation, as Hopkins is about 2 generations his senior in boxing terms and it reflects badly on the state of the sport to have an old man beating guys who are supposed to be the future.

eastezrider wrote:nowt gambler but would be interested in wot the bookmakers are thinking on this one...?

much obliged.

crusader wrote:Here are some odds. If you're unaware, the numbers on the right of the / are the amounts you need to bet to win the numbers on the left.

http://www.oddschecker.com/boxing/serge ... ins/winner

crusader wrote:

eastezrider wrote:nowt gambler but would be interested in wot the bookmakers are thinking on this one...?

much obliged.

Here are some odds. If you're unaware, the numbers on the right of the / are the amounts you need to bet to win the numbers on the left.

http://www.oddschecker.com/boxing/serge ... ins/winner

lefty wrote:

crusader wrote:

eastezrider wrote:nowt gambler but would be interested in wot the bookmakers are thinking on this one...?

much obliged.

Here are some odds. If you're unaware, the numbers on the right of the / are the amounts you need to bet to win the numbers on the left.

http://www.oddschecker.com/boxing/serge ... ins/winner

Im absolutely rubbish with odds .... is that one set of odds for Hopkins to win at 21/10 ... is that equivalent to 11/1?

crusader wrote:

HomicideHenry wrote:I know Kovalev is a beast, and very precise puncher, with a hellish body attack--- but this isn't the first time that Hopkins has been the underdog against powerful punchers, etc. (Pavlik).

I wont make a prediction on this fight, but will say Hopkins will do more than people expect, and that he will surprise everyone despite being 50+ years old against a young man all in his prime.

Was Pavlik a power-puncher at LHW, the division in which he fought Hopkins? Check out his resume above middleweight, where in his last four bouts he was twice taken the distance by mediocre fighters and couldn't drop clubfighter Scott Sigmon despite pounding him for 7 rounds.

As for the last sentence, I've seen loads of people pick Hopkins (he was the favorite in a recent ESPN media poll of 20+) and there seems to be a fairly large 'never bet against BHOP' and 'I've learned my lesson' crew, so I'm not sure that he'll surprise everyone even if he wins. I think a precondition for Hopkins' reputation as an upsetter is unimpressive performances prior to the upsets, which thereby lower expectations and help vault him into the underdog role, and people seem to remember those performances less than his brighter moments.

pound per pound wrote:I have two predictions.

1 ) Kovalev beat the crap out of Hopkins who will either find a way out or be taken out by punches.

pound per pound wrote:

crusader wrote:

HomicideHenry wrote:I know Kovalev is a beast, and very precise puncher, with a hellish body attack--- but this isn't the first time that Hopkins has been the underdog against powerful punchers, etc. (Pavlik).

I wont make a prediction on this fight, but will say Hopkins will do more than people expect, and that he will surprise everyone despite being 50+ years old against a young man all in his prime.

Was Pavlik a power-puncher at LHW, the division in which he fought Hopkins? Check out his resume above middleweight, where in his last four bouts he was twice taken the distance by mediocre fighters and couldn't drop clubfighter Scott Sigmon despite pounding him for 7 rounds.

As for the last sentence, I've seen loads of people pick Hopkins (he was the favorite in a recent ESPN media poll of 20+) and there seems to be a fairly large 'never bet against BHOP' and 'I've learned my lesson' crew, so I'm not sure that he'll surprise everyone even if he wins. I think a precondition for Hopkins' reputation as an upsetter is unimpressive performances prior to the upsets, which thereby lower expectations and help vault him into the underdog role, and people seem to remember those performances less than his brighter moments.

I have two predictions.

1 ) Kovalev beat the crap out of Hopkins who will either find a way out or be taken out by punches.

2 ) Those picking Hopkins to win in the poll and here will quickly call him old if he losses.

ikorolev wrote:By, the way, Kovalev's purse for such a huge bout is laughable -- $500,000. Any ideas what Hopkins is getting ?

Im absolutely rubbish with odds .... is that one set of odds for Hopkins to win at 21/10 ... is that equivalent to 11/1?