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Re: Arum turns down Mayweather fight offer?

Posted: 17 Nov 2014, 11:44
by KBB
Ricky_ wrote:
KBB wrote:
Arum is not in any position to throw offers,
1. The biggest, best & wealthiest promoter in the boxing game is not a position to make offers?! Oooooooooook den.

KBB wrote:Floyd is the "A" side of this equation,
2. :lol: there is no A side. "Floyd vs Manny" is an entity on it's own. It's the biggest fight of all time. It's been hyped for over 5 years. A side... you act like Pacquiao is Maidana or Guerrero, you fanboy.
KBB wrote:I just posted that Manny could make up to 110 million with the deal they offered him
3. Who cares what ever math you can come up with, some fanboy troll from the hood?? Floyd could take 25% vs Manny and he'd be making double what he usually makes.

KBB wrote:Oh and FYI, Floyd doesn't need a Promoter because he already has his Promoter's License from the state of Nevada and New York.
4. :lol: Floyd doesn't even have the know-how or the finance to promote Mayweather vs Maidana, or he would have done. Cards headlined by J'Leon Love are about his level i think. Yes you think he's gonna promote the biggest fight of all time? GTFO here :lol:
http://au.ibtimes.com/articles/572888/2 ... owtime.htm


1. You defending Arum is laughable, you two are the only ones who believe a Promoter's status matters.
2. The problem with idiot Shills like you is that you allow your personal dislike/hate for Floyd to cloud your judgment of the facts, this is Boxing and it is a Business and in business there is always someone who is the A side in boxing.
3. Apparently Arum cares what math I came up with because it seems no matter what offer Floyd makes to them even when it was 50-50 he still found a way to not allow the fight to happen.
4. Yes, I think Floyd is going to promote the biggest fight of all time but it appears that Manny nor Arum wants it as bad as he has been saying in public now since 2010.

Look at the board, take a look at all the links, not one person agrees with you or Arum. Making excuses for Manny doesn't prove anything, the facts are there and it proves that Arum and Manny have been ducking Floyd all along, Ariza was right:

http://www.sportstalk200.com/boxing-new ... ppen/8643/

Re: Arum turns down Mayweather fight offer?

Posted: 17 Nov 2014, 13:04
by Ricky_
Did you write that article KBB/Brut?

Just interest as to why you would post a link to an article with the headline: "ARIZA: ARUM DOESN’T WANT THE MAYWEATHER-PACQUIAO FIGHT TO GET HAPPEN"

:lol: :lol: :lol:


Maybe if Floyd mans up and signs the 50:50 the fight might... get happen.

Re: Arum turns down Mayweather fight offer?

Posted: 17 Nov 2014, 13:10
by Tomasino
Ricky_ wrote:Did you write that article KBB/Brut?

Just interest as to why you would post a link to an article with the headline: "ARIZA: ARUM DOESN’T WANT THE MAYWEATHER-PACQUIAO FIGHT TO GET HAPPEN"

:lol: :lol: :lol:


Maybe if Floyd mans up and signs the 50:50 the fight might... get happen.

Why would Floyd go 50/50 with Manny? what an utterly stupid suggestion.

Re: Arum turns down Mayweather fight offer?

Posted: 17 Nov 2014, 13:59
by NateJR
Tomasino wrote:
Ricky_ wrote:Did you write that article KBB/Brut?

Just interest as to why you would post a link to an article with the headline: "ARIZA: ARUM DOESN’T WANT THE MAYWEATHER-PACQUIAO FIGHT TO GET HAPPEN"

:lol: :lol: :lol:


Maybe if Floyd mans up and signs the 50:50 the fight might... get happen.

Why would Floyd go 50/50 with Manny? what an utterly stupid suggestion.
_Ricky is a troll. He doesn't understand the difference between facts and his opinion. His biased/clouded opinion is all he cares about, facts don't apply when it comes to debates done by _Ricky. You can't change stupid, that is clear.

Re: Arum turns down Mayweather fight offer?

Posted: 17 Nov 2014, 13:59
by Ricky_
Tomasino wrote:
Ricky_ wrote:Did you write that article KBB/Brut?

Just interest as to why you would post a link to an article with the headline: "ARIZA: ARUM DOESN’T WANT THE MAYWEATHER-PACQUIAO FIGHT TO GET HAPPEN"

:lol: :lol: :lol:


Maybe if Floyd mans up and signs the 50:50 the fight might... get happen.

Why would Floyd go 50/50 with Manny? what an utterly stupid suggestion.

Why would he not?

Re: Arum turns down Mayweather fight offer?

Posted: 17 Nov 2014, 14:02
by Tomasino
Ricky_ wrote:
Tomasino wrote:
Ricky_ wrote:Did you write that article KBB/Brut?

Just interest as to why you would post a link to an article with the headline: "ARIZA: ARUM DOESN’T WANT THE MAYWEATHER-PACQUIAO FIGHT TO GET HAPPEN"

:lol: :lol: :lol:


Maybe if Floyd mans up and signs the 50:50 the fight might... get happen.

Why would Floyd go 50/50 with Manny? what an utterly stupid suggestion.

Why would he not?
Can't you just answer a straight question? You made an unsure suggestion, so I asked and you respond with a question...are you female, Ricky?

Re: Arum turns down Mayweather fight offer?

Posted: 17 Nov 2014, 14:51
by Ricky_
I think i might have already given an answer to that, but since you're so thick i guess it may take a few tries.

Floyd vs Pacquiao = biggest fight in history.

50% of what it grosses = many times more than the lion share vs the alternative options such as Thurman or Brook or... a Guerrero rematch ( :lol: )

It's also a very generous deal, Floyd will negate GBP fees and won't need to sell the fight with the same time & effort since Arum would be doing the work and picking up the bills.

Re: Arum turns down Mayweather fight offer?

Posted: 17 Nov 2014, 17:00
by Dennis
It is quite simple. Floyd is a much bigger draw than Manny as evidenced by recent PPV numbers. Floyd would be stupid to give Pacquiao 50%. 40% is more than fair given their positions in boxing. Floyd is the biggest PPV draw. Floyd is undefeated. Manny has several losses including a devastating KO loss.

Re: Arum turns down Mayweather fight offer?

Posted: 17 Nov 2014, 19:21
by KBB
Ricky_ wrote:Did you write that article KBB/Brut?

Just interest as to why you would post a link to an article with the headline: "ARIZA: ARUM DOESN’T WANT THE MAYWEATHER-PACQUIAO FIGHT TO GET HAPPEN"

:lol: :lol: :lol:


Maybe if Floyd mans up and signs the 50:50 the fight might... get happen.
You keep trying to insult me by calling me someone else but here is the proof that Floyd had already agreed to Manny's 50-50 that you claimed he needed to "man up" and sign of which Pacquiao did not "MAN UP" and sign.

http://sports.yahoo.com/news/boxing--fl ... fight.html

Pay attention to the part where it says the following:

However, in a contract obtained by Yahoo! Sports, paragraph 11 under the section entitled Net Profits reads: "Net Profits shall be allocated 50/50 between GBP and TR." The contract goes on to say that net profits would include a split of "all gross revenues."


Manny didn't sign then and he still refuses to sign now but somehow you are here stating Floyd is the one who needs to man up!!

I've heard of people being retarded but being downright stupid has to be a gift given to those who have no brain at all.

Re: Arum turns down Mayweather fight offer?

Posted: 17 Nov 2014, 19:29
by ikorolev
Or maybe Arum tries to do something bigger:

http://www.badlefthook.com/2014/11/17/7 ... lion-fight

Re: Arum turns down Mayweather fight offer?

Posted: 17 Nov 2014, 19:51
by KBB
:zzz:

Re: Arum turns down Mayweather fight offer?

Posted: 17 Nov 2014, 20:02
by KBB
KBB wrote:
ikorolev wrote:Or maybe Arum tries to do something bigger:

http://www.badlefthook.com/2014/11/17/7 ... lion-fight
Anyone who believes anything Bob Arum says is just a damn fool!! This is all just cannon fodder to distract us from the fact that Arum and Manny are ducking this fight with Mayweather!!

The proof will be in the pudding as you will see that this so called Billion Dollar Fight proposal will amount to nothing, mark my words.

All these attempts to defend Manny Pacquiao on this latest ducking issue are futile.

Oh, I almost forgot to mention that I will be putting on a huge fight between Amir Khan and Khan from the Star Trek Series which will be fought over England on a Space Station hovering about 30 feet from the ground, the cost will be one Mexican Food stamp per person and will be carried on AFN at 10 PM WCT (West Coast Time) and can be streamed on Dick Tracy wristwatches for 1 peso.

Re: Arum turns down Mayweather fight offer?

Posted: 18 Nov 2014, 07:51
by ttornado
Ricky_ wrote:
:lol: Floyd doesn't even have the know-how or the finance to promote Mayweather vs Maidana, or he would have done. Cards headlined by J'Leon Love are about his level i think. Yes you think he's gonna promote the biggest fight of all time? GTFO here :lol:
Don't rewrite history Rick.

FMJ didn't hold a Nevada license at the time that fight was made.
Remember Floyd is a figure head the real business acumen would be elsewhere in the company.

Re: Arum turns down Mayweather fight offer?

Posted: 18 Nov 2014, 08:08
by Ricky_
ttornado wrote:
Ricky_ wrote:
:lol: Floyd doesn't even have the know-how or the finance to promote Mayweather vs Maidana, or he would have done. Cards headlined by J'Leon Love are about his level i think. Yes you think he's gonna promote the biggest fight of all time? GTFO here :lol:
Don't rewrite history Rick.

FMJ didn't hold a Nevada license at the time that fight was made.
Remember Floyd is a figure head the real business acumen would be elsewhere in the company.


:lol:

Ok man, whatever, let's see if Mayweather Promotions can stage a PPV show the size of the ones he fights on....

Re: Arum turns down Mayweather fight offer?

Posted: 18 Nov 2014, 08:11
by Ricky_
ikorolev wrote:Or maybe Arum tries to do something bigger:

http://www.badlefthook.com/2014/11/17/7 ... lion-fight

That's pretty interesting. $1bn is a hell of a figure to shoot for, half of that would be an amazing success. If anyone can pull it off though it' Arum, he understands Pacquiao is the biggest sportstar globally since Ali so to truly maximise revenue he has to expose other continents. Time difference's could be a real problem though, Asia is the other side of the planet.

Re: Arum turns down Mayweather fight offer?

Posted: 18 Nov 2014, 09:19
by tiny_acres
Ricky_ wrote:
ikorolev wrote:Or maybe Arum tries to do something bigger:

http://www.badlefthook.com/2014/11/17/7 ... lion-fight

That's pretty interesting. $1bn is a hell of a figure to shoot for, half of that would be an amazing success. If anyone can pull it off though it' Arum, he understands Pacquiao is the biggest sportstar globally since Ali so to truly maximise revenue he has to expose other continents. Time difference's could be a real problem though, Asia is the other side of the planet.
:lol: :lol: Even you can not believe the stuff you write.

Re: Arum turns down Mayweather fight offer?

Posted: 18 Nov 2014, 11:49
by ttornado
Ricky_ wrote: :lol:

Ok man, whatever, let's see if Mayweather Promotions can stage a PPV show the size of the ones he fights on....
With Schaefer as CEO, why not?
Laugh now, as they may sound foolish later.

Re: Arum turns down Mayweather fight offer?

Posted: 18 Nov 2014, 12:06
by Ricky_
ttornado wrote:
Ricky_ wrote: :lol:

Ok man, whatever, let's see if Mayweather Promotions can stage a PPV show the size of the ones he fights on....
With Schaefer as CEO, why not?
Laugh now, as they may sound foolish later.

Schaefer can't promote given the legality of the situation with GBP, he's still a significant shareholder, so working for rival promotional company wouldn't make any sense, he stated as much in his statement when he left GBP.

I'm not sure why people think Mayweather has the capacity to promote big cards. Getting a licence is simply a formality, if he had the cash and acumen he would've been doing it for years already instead of signing with Golden Boy.

Re: Arum turns down Mayweather fight offer?

Posted: 18 Nov 2014, 12:28
by Tomasino
Ricky_ wrote:
ttornado wrote:
Ricky_ wrote: :lol:

Ok man, whatever, let's see if Mayweather Promotions can stage a PPV show the size of the ones he fights on....
With Schaefer as CEO, why not?
Laugh now, as they may sound foolish later.

Schaefer can't promote given the legality of the situation with GBP, he's still a significant shareholder, so working for rival promotional company wouldn't make any sense, he stated as much in his statement when he left GBP.

I'm not sure why people think Mayweather has the capacity to promote big cards. Getting a licence is simply a formality, if he had the cash and acumen he would've been doing it for years already instead of signing with Golden Boy.

I've always thought here was something off about your posts. Top Rank Shill! I also reckon you are female by the style of your posts.

Re: Arum turns down Mayweather fight offer?

Posted: 18 Nov 2014, 12:34
by Ricky_
how many accounts u got Brut? No idea wht a shill is, i don't speak hoodlum :TU:

Re: Arum turns down Mayweather fight offer?

Posted: 18 Nov 2014, 12:44
by Tomasino
Ricky_ wrote:how many accounts u got Brut? No idea wht a shill is, i don't speak hoodlum :TU:

Sorry, Top Rank bitch. I'm sure you understand that. Floyd > Manny. It's been shown by the revenue they have generated for their fights. Floyd gets paid three times what Manny does. That's fact. I used to think Manny wanted the fight but by signing with crooked Bob he shows he doesn't want it. You know this as well as anyone else. Manny also has a KO loss and two hotly disputed wins against a Mayweather drubbing victim, JMM, who happens to be one of my all time favourite fighters. He got taken to school by Floyd yet managed to KTFO Manny and beat him twice more in my opinion. So how he's on equal footing with Floyd I do not know.

Re: Arum turns down Mayweather fight offer?

Posted: 18 Nov 2014, 13:05
by Ricky_
Tomasino wrote:I do not know.
Indeed, you don't know much about anything, tata.

Re: Arum turns down Mayweather fight offer?

Posted: 18 Nov 2014, 13:23
by Tomasino
Ricky_ wrote:
Tomasino wrote:I do not know.
Indeed, you don't know much about anything, tata.

You've been outed, bitch.

Re: Arum turns down Mayweather fight offer?

Posted: 18 Nov 2014, 14:22
by KBB
Ricky_ wrote:how many accounts u got Brut? No idea wht a shill is, i don't speak hoodlum :TU:
You say I'm speaking hoodlum because I used the English word "Shill" of which a dumb idiot like you don't even know what it means. If you are going to try to attempt to insult me, the very least you can do is grow a brain to increase your word knowledge.

Re: Arum turns down Mayweather fight offer?

Posted: 18 Nov 2014, 14:22
by KBB
Tomasino wrote:
Ricky_ wrote:
Tomasino wrote:I do not know.
Indeed, you don't know much about anything, tata.

You've been outed, bitch.

:yay: