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A guy who was forced to retire because he was too crippled to fight while still young and prime, has accumulated 20 years of rust, is 61 years old, and never even fought a non-bum in his prime... should not be in the ring now. At least his intended opponent is a 1-9 LMW, while Rourke is a bit bigger.

Lackeos wrote:A guy who was forced to retire because he was too crippled to fight while still young and prime, has accumulated 20 years of rust, is 61 years old, and never even fought a non-bum in his prime... should not be in the ring now. At least his intended opponent is a 1-9 LMW, while Rourke is a bit bigger.

No doubt there's a behind-the-scenes handshake deal where this 1-9 guy is going to take it easy on the old man. If he went against it, he might not make it out of Russia.

Ya, I suspect the odds are heavily in Rourke's favor regardless of how good he is.

LMAO @ Russia allowing this....Russians dont give a fornicate. Mickey handles this patsy easily though.

Rourke is better known to a casual person in Russia than Provodnikov plus the remaining card, so he will attract additional viewers, plus there are people who will just want to see a 60+ year old box.

P.S. We are possibly witnessing birth of WBE (analog of WWE)

This whole card stinks money laundering through "legit" sports competition.

Rourke was woeful as a boxer even in his first incarnation.
He still tells fibs in interviews boosting his amount of bouts and wins and fails to mention that four of his opponents had zero wins between them.
He was a side show. Its expected I suppose from movie stars to embellish but he also seems to have gotten everyone to believe his ridiculous plastic surgery is as a result of trying to repair the damage caused by boxing. Have a look at him when he left boxing. The simple truth was more likely being good old fashioned vanity and trying to look younger!
He, like many of these Hollywood stars have a boxing career edited by spin doctors. I saw three of his fights and he was terrible even against shocking opposition. Flat footed, off balance, wild uncoordinated punches and easy to hit.
Oh and he allegedly also had 27 wins out of 30 as an amateur with 12 straight 1st round knockouts...
Cracking actor though.

lefty wrote:A 61/62 year old shouldnt be boxing professionally. Especially against a 29 yr old even if he is totally shite.

I could not agree more.

crow wrote:This whole card stinks money laundering through "legit" sports competition.

This is the most stupid thing said in this thread.

most of the guys rourke fought were professional sparring partners and they all got paid a bit extra (wink wink nudge nudge) to fight him, that said boxings always been full of sordid sh1t like this.

Irony is Mickey Rourke is likely much tougher than Schwarzennegger, Stallone, and Chuck Norris put together.

Tony1244 wrote:Irony is Mickey Rourke is likely much tougher than Schwarzennegger, Stallone, and Chuck Norris put together.

I very much doubt that.

Arnold is very strong mentally.

Norris is the real deal, if he shit on Stallone, Arnold or Rourke they'd pretend they hadn't noticed.

Stallone is the daddy! sorry the best of the best.

Tony1244 wrote:Irony is Mickey Rourke is likely much tougher than Schwarzennegger, Stallone, and Chuck Norris put together.

Chuck Norris is a former world champion martial artist, Whereas Mickey is a HGH injecting booze and coke fiend - which one you reckon is tougher?

JCS wrote:

Lackeos wrote:A guy who was forced to retire because he was too crippled to fight while still young and prime, has accumulated 20 years of rust, is 61 years old, and never even fought a non-bum in his prime... should not be in the ring now. At least his intended opponent is a 1-9 LMW, while Rourke is a bit bigger.

No doubt there's a behind-the-scenes handshake deal where this 1-9 guy is going to take it easy on the old man. If he went against it, he might not make it out of Russia.

I personally know this guy Rourke is fighting. He has more ability than a 1-9 record would suggest. Good pop, can take a punch, but lacks stamina (I haven't seen him in a couple months, I hope he's found a decent training situation). He's sparred some top notch fighters in the LA area and is very tough. He gets called on to fight at the last minute, isn't attached to any gym and has no support in terms of training, promoting, management. I think he's had a few raw decisions too, maybe his record should be closer to even.
He is a cool guy and I'd love to see him win, but as you said, I doubt he's 'allowed' to win this, especially in Russia. I'm happy for him that he's got this opportunity to travel abroad and make some $$ either way.

Bruce Lee kicked his ass though.

The ghost of Bruce Lee could probably still do all 4 of them.

Rexob wrote:Bruce Lee kicked his ass though.

In the film he did yes.... but that was make believe....

I like Bruce Lee but man oh man, there has never been a more exaggerated man in the history of combat sports than he. He never competed in a actual sports environment, and the fights he allegedly had were street brawls, or him beating up people in his dojo. It screams of Lenny McLean. But because he's Asian, and alot of celebs loved him, he became some sort of guru. Don't get me wrong, he wasn't necessarily bullshitting people when he talked about various disciplines and how and what would "win" out in real life situations--- but he never did it himself.

Chuck, on the other hand, did. And I'm sorry... it goes against physics, that a man 130 pounds, could generate the kind of power and force necessary to defeat someone who was much bigger. Even if he could beat Norris in a real fight--- that doesnt mean he'd beat Chuck in a Karate contest with judges and rules. That was Chuck's domain, not Lee's. I've heard too many people over the years go on and on about Lee being almost like Superman and that he would of kicked Ali's ass or Lesnar's ass, etc.

I mean, how insane are some people's logics--- that a 130 pound man, even if he could kick and do everything else--- be able to beat someone 215 pounds (Ali) or someone 265+ pounds (Lesnar). Mind you, I do know there are precedents. After all Sam Langford beat every good fighter there was from 130 pounds to 200 pounds, but even he reached his limit--- he lost the majority of contests to Harry Wills who was 6'3" 230 pounds. Mickey Walker defeated alot of heavyweights--- but he got kayoed by Schmeling. Billy Conn defeated alot of heavyweights, but got kayoed twice by Joe Louis. There is a limit to what people can do, no matter how skilled.

HomicideHenry wrote:

Rexob wrote:Bruce Lee kicked his ass though.

In the film he did yes.... but that was make believe....

I like Bruce Lee but man oh man, there has never been a more exaggerated man in the history of combat sports than he. He never competed in a actual sports environment, and the fights he allegedly had were street brawls, or him beating up people in his dojo. It screams of Lenny McLean. But because he's Asian, and alot of celebs loved him, he became some sort of guru. Don't get me wrong, he wasn't necessarily bullshitting people when he talked about various disciplines and how and what would "win" out in real life situations--- but he never did it himself.

Chuck, on the other hand, did. And I'm sorry... it goes against physics, that a man 130 pounds, could generate the kind of power and force necessary to defeat someone who was much bigger. Even if he could beat Norris in a real fight--- that doesnt mean he'd beat Chuck in a Karate contest with judges and rules. That was Chuck's domain, not Lee's. I've heard too many people over the years go on and on about Lee being almost like Superman and that he would of kicked Ali's ass or Lesnar's ass, etc.

I mean, how insane are some people's logics--- that a 130 pound man, even if he could kick and do everything else--- be able to beat someone 215 pounds (Ali) or someone 265+ pounds (Lesnar). Mind you, I do know there are precedents. After all Sam Langford beat every good fighter there was from 130 pounds to 200 pounds, but even he reached his limit--- he lost the majority of contests to Harry Wills who was 6'3" 230 pounds. Mickey Walker defeated alot of heavyweights--- but he got kayoed by Schmeling. Billy Conn defeated alot of heavyweights, but got kayoed twice by Joe Louis. There is a limit to what people can do, no matter how skilled.

Some very good points here. I have actually had conversations with amateur boxers; would you believe it, that swear that Bruce Lee would kill Mike Tyson in a street fight.

I mean, really? How ridiculous is that? A 220 lb all time heavyweight great who has been punched and punched people since puberty is apparently going to get beaten by an 130lb man who has never had a documented fight?

An that's an amateur boxer who should know better. I thought MMA put to rest all that 'one inch punch/take your knee out' stupidity.... Apparently not.

Ps I have to say though, even though Chuck Norris was a many times Karate champ, it was non contact I think, the sport was not that popular, and frankly he looked slow and shit vs Lee on film....

HomicideHenry wrote:

Rexob wrote:Bruce Lee kicked his ass though.

In the film he did yes.... but that was make believe....

I like Bruce Lee but man oh man, there has never been a more exaggerated man in the history of combat sports than he. He never competed in a actual sports environment, and the fights he allegedly had were street brawls, or him beating up people in his dojo. It screams of Lenny McLean. But because he's Asian, and alot of celebs loved him, he became some sort of guru. Don't get me wrong, he wasn't necessarily bullshitting people when he talked about various disciplines and how and what would "win" out in real life situations--- but he never did it himself.

Chuck, on the other hand, did. And I'm sorry... it goes against physics, that a man 130 pounds, could generate the kind of power and force necessary to defeat someone who was much bigger. Even if he could beat Norris in a real fight--- that doesnt mean he'd beat Chuck in a Karate contest with judges and rules. That was Chuck's domain, not Lee's. I've heard too many people over the years go on and on about Lee being almost like Superman and that he would of kicked Ali's ass or Lesnar's ass, etc.

I mean, how insane are some people's logics--- that a 130 pound man, even if he could kick and do everything else--- be able to beat someone 215 pounds (Ali) or someone 265+ pounds (Lesnar). Mind you, I do know there are precedents. After all Sam Langford beat every good fighter there was from 130 pounds to 200 pounds, but even he reached his limit--- he lost the majority of contests to Harry Wills who was 6'3" 230 pounds. Mickey Walker defeated alot of heavyweights--- but he got kayoed by Schmeling. Billy Conn defeated alot of heavyweights, but got kayoed twice by Joe Louis. There is a limit to what people can do, no matter how skilled.

Say no more

palooka wrote:

greg wrote:...ridiculous, by the way Rourke is on the right ...

The years have been kind to him.

Kinder than his plastic surgeon.

Rexob wrote:

HomicideHenry wrote:

Rexob wrote:Bruce Lee kicked his ass though.

In the film he did yes.... but that was make believe....

I like Bruce Lee but man oh man, there has never been a more exaggerated man in the history of combat sports than he. He never competed in a actual sports environment, and the fights he allegedly had were street brawls, or him beating up people in his dojo. It screams of Lenny McLean. But because he's Asian, and alot of celebs loved him, he became some sort of guru. Don't get me wrong, he wasn't necessarily bullshitting people when he talked about various disciplines and how and what would "win" out in real life situations--- but he never did it himself.

Chuck, on the other hand, did. And I'm sorry... it goes against physics, that a man 130 pounds, could generate the kind of power and force necessary to defeat someone who was much bigger. Even if he could beat Norris in a real fight--- that doesnt mean he'd beat Chuck in a Karate contest with judges and rules. That was Chuck's domain, not Lee's. I've heard too many people over the years go on and on about Lee being almost like Superman and that he would of kicked Ali's ass or Lesnar's ass, etc.

I mean, how insane are some people's logics--- that a 130 pound man, even if he could kick and do everything else--- be able to beat someone 215 pounds (Ali) or someone 265+ pounds (Lesnar). Mind you, I do know there are precedents. After all Sam Langford beat every good fighter there was from 130 pounds to 200 pounds, but even he reached his limit--- he lost the majority of contests to Harry Wills who was 6'3" 230 pounds. Mickey Walker defeated alot of heavyweights--- but he got kayoed by Schmeling. Billy Conn defeated alot of heavyweights, but got kayoed twice by Joe Louis. There is a limit to what people can do, no matter how skilled.

Say no more

Say what you want or will, of Lesnar, but the man at one point had to of been the best all-around athlete of modern times. The man NEVER played football for crying out loud, and got signed with the Vikings. You cannot qualify for the NFL unless you can run 50 in under 5 seconds. Factor in that he was a NCAA wrestling champion, and in less than 4 mma fights won the most prestigous mma title in the world. He went to sh!t real quick after coming down with that intestinal disease... but what is laughable, disease or no disease, how you could laugh or scoff at Lesnar's chances against Bruce Lee.

PHYSICS MAN, PHYSICS. Lee got anywhere close, and got ahold of, he'd be done for. I'll always argue it, that traditional wrestling and jujitsu have proven to be the "best" chief form of defense in mma. There's been more champions from that sort of background than in anything else.

50 in under 5 seconds? I hope you mean 40 :)

Sweet Jesus, Lesnar would eat Bruce 1 second after he raced across the ring / cage.

Anyone that thinks 130lb Lee would last more than a handful of seconds against an NCAA wrestling, UFC champ who weighs 265lbs and is one of the best athletes ever loves crack more than lil Wayne.,,,,