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KBB wrote:

ikorolev wrote:@KBB: You are confused. GGG has never called Manny out. It is Floyd who is running from him and a crowd of other dangerous fighters.

Maybe he realized who is more of a challenge and why waste his time with an easy fight like Manny. Did GGG send a contract for Floyd to sign like Mayweather did to Manny?

If not, then he isn't running but we know who had a 50-50 contract but didn't sign it, now don't we??

http://sports.yahoo.com/news/boxing--fl ... fight.html

GGG never sent a contract to Manny neither so how is he calling Manny out but not Floyd who he's publically said he wanted to fight?

IKSRTFO wrote:GGG never sent a contract to Manny neither so how is he calling Manny out but not Floyd who he's publically said he wanted to fight?

You're the one who said Floyd is running from him, how is that when he never sent him a contract? Manny on the other hand is running from Floyd because Mayweather sent him a contract that he didn't sign.

Brut, can you read ?

GGG is obviously a B side which is why contract should be coming from Floyd.

ikorolev wrote:Brut, can you read ?

GGG is obviously a B side which is why contract should be coming from Floyd.

I don't know who Brut is but Floyd isn't the one calling out GGG, he is calling out smaller guys when it suits him while avoiding Ward who called him out.

Did Ward send Golovkin a good contract or any contract for that matter ? Ah, he is being sued by his promotional company, so there is nobody to work on that contract.

KBB wrote:

IKSRTFO wrote:GGG never sent a contract to Manny neither so how is he calling Manny out but not Floyd who he's publically said he wanted to fight?

You're the one who said Floyd is running from him, how is that when he never sent him a contract? Manny on the other hand is running from Floyd because Mayweather sent him a contract that he didn't sign.

But how is Manny running from GGG if he never sent GGG a contract?

Fight Summary:

"Imma let him outta the cage"

and then BOOM

Bullsh1t. In case of huge fights which Mayweather vs GGG would be, participating parties would find a solution.

A year ago, you would probably be denying any possibility of Hopkins fighting Kovalev on HBO ...

It can change drastically in a year if Mayweather will want it.

fergusg wrote:

ikorolev wrote:A year ago, you would probably be denying any possibility of Hopkins fighting Kovalev on HBO ...

No I wouldn't... because Hopkins has been a managerial, promotional and network free agent for several years. Bernard could have taken fights against anyone if he wanted to, regardless as to whatever GBP wanted.

GBP had to start working with HBO and Top Rank again, because Al Haymon took over control over most of their fighters, which means their current roster is ludicrously small.

Dan Rafael reports that the combined total of Top Rank's and GBP's stable of fighters is now smaller than Al Haymon's.

GGG is contracted to HBO and Mayweather is contracted to Showtime and "advised" by Al Haymon... so the fight isn't going to happen!

The political landscape may change drastically in five years time, but by that time, Golovkin and Mayweather would have already hung up their gloves.

Very factually and elaborately stated, anyone who doesn't find this to be true is just a Tool or a Troll. Mayweather wanting a fight with any Top Rank fighter doesn't guarantee he'll get it. Alex Ariza has sat in on the negotiations between Arum and Haymon and he basically told what happens when these meetings take place and it goes like this:

Arum brings Koncz (rumored to know very little about structuring a bout) and they all sit down and immediately Bob throws out his demands without listening to anyone else's proposals, he doesn't like what he does hear when they speak and he throws a tantrum and walks out and that is the end of the negotiations.

How anyone can go along with this and not hold Arum accountable is beyond me, the evidence is out there that this has happened because Ariza stated it very clearly that the same thing that was happening 4 years ago is happening today and that Arum has an agenda to make sure that Pacquiao never gets to fight Floyd.

Even knowing all of this there are tons of idiots on this forum as well as around the world that still somehow thinks that "if Floyd wants this fight or any fight for that matter that he can make it happen."

Just plain stupidity if you ask me.

KBB, you are really delusional if you think that one can trust what Ariza is saying and that a conditioning coach would be brought into initial fight negotiations.

KBB wrote:

fergusg wrote:

ikorolev wrote:A year ago, you would probably be denying any possibility of Hopkins fighting Kovalev on HBO ...

No I wouldn't... because Hopkins has been a managerial, promotional and network free agent for several years. Bernard could have taken fights against anyone if he wanted to, regardless as to whatever GBP wanted.

GBP had to start working with HBO and Top Rank again, because Al Haymon took over control over most of their fighters, which means their current roster is ludicrously small.

Dan Rafael reports that the combined total of Top Rank's and GBP's stable of fighters is now smaller than Al Haymon's.

GGG is contracted to HBO and Mayweather is contracted to Showtime and "advised" by Al Haymon... so the fight isn't going to happen!

The political landscape may change drastically in five years time, but by that time, Golovkin and Mayweather would have already hung up their gloves.

Very factually and elaborately stated, anyone who doesn't find this to be true is just a Tool or a Troll. Mayweather wanting a fight with any Top Rank fighter doesn't guarantee he'll get it. Alex Ariza has sat in on the negotiations between Arum and Haymon and he basically told what happens when these meetings take place and it goes like this:

Arum brings Koncz (rumored to know very little about structuring a bout) and they all sit down and immediately Bob throws out his demands without listening to anyone else's proposals, he doesn't like what he does hear when they speak and he throws a tantrum and walks out and that is the end of the negotiations.

How anyone can go along with this and not hold Arum accountable is beyond me, the evidence is out there that this has happened because Ariza stated it very clearly that the same thing that was happening 4 years ago is happening today and that Arum has an agenda to make sure that Pacquiao never gets to fight Floyd.

Even knowing all of this there are tons of idiots on this forum as well as around the world that still somehow thinks that "if Floyd wants this fight or any fight for that matter that he can make it happen."

Just plain stupidity if you ask me.

As I have said elsewhere, Arum has a very personal beef with Mayweather - he has no intention of letting him face Pacquaio.

ikorolev wrote:KBB, you are really delusional if you think that one can trust what Ariza is saying and that a conditioning coach would be brought into initial fight negotiations.

Delusional would be reading the BS people like you post that has been nowhere near Floyd or Manny in these negotiations.

kidbazooka1 wrote:Yup true horrible card only decent scrap was vsrgas v demarco.

I was disgusted by the lomachenko nutthuggery by max and lamply.

My god those cocksuckrrs have hit an all time lown

Lomachenko was the only redeeming thing about this weekend as far as I'm concerned. I only hope his hand injury isn't serious.