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Horse wrote: 17. (17.) Lee Haskins - Sanigar

Says it all really, if he showed less loyalty and buggered off to one of the big two, he'd probably have had the opportunities to be a few places higher than that at least. Damn shame.

Horse wrote:

palooka wrote:Is this the first month without a monumental battle/argument, or have I spoken too soon?

You can't say that before I've started responding to the feedback.

Was going to comment about Bellew being a bit high but I think that's probably the let down of his performances vs his talk that's bugging me. When you list his opposition as above I think you make a fair point.

Solid list.

Horse wrote:

DazDiCanio wrote:Can you explain to me why Tony Bellew is at number, 12.

Thanks.

Bellew's got wins against - Ajisafe, McKenzie x2, McIntosh, Miranda, Chilemba & Cleverly.

His record's pretty good.

Billy joes last 4 opponents 71-0.
Respect is due.

Fury is too high.

Haskins is too high.

Old Jack J wrote:Martin Murray should be higher.

Grrr!

expe wrote:I thought Macklin was still with Lou Dibella, but fighting on Matchroom shows, similar to Fury with Hennessey and Warren, his contract with Dibella might have expired though. And Willie Limond's with Alex Morrison, unless I've missed something it's a fight by fight thing with Hearn.

It's difficult to tell sometimes.

Baboon wrote:Says it all really, if he showed less loyalty and buggered off to one of the big two, he'd probably have had the opportunities to be a few places higher than that at least. Damn shame.

Do the big two want him?

Baboon wrote:

Was going to comment about Bellew being a bit high but I think that's probably the let down of his performances vs his talk that's bugging me. When you list his opposition as above I think you make a fair point.

Solid list.

Horse wrote:

Old Jack J wrote:Martin Murray should be higher.

Grrr!

Good man

Horse wrote:

Baboon wrote:Says it all really, if he showed less loyalty and buggered off to one of the big two, he'd probably have had the opportunities to be a few places higher than that at least. Damn shame.

Do the big two want him?

Fair point, his loyalty may be more due to default than options. Not the prettiest style to watch, but pretty effective. Just a shame that McDonnell, Hall and worst of all Ward get shots at the WT ahead of him even though he beat them all well.

A rematch now with Hall would be interesting.

DazDiCanio wrote:Billy joes last 4 opponents 71-0.
Respect is due.

He's at No. 14, he has been given his due respect.

lefty wrote:Fury is too high.

No, he isn't.

Horse wrote:

DazDiCanio wrote:Billy joes last 4 opponents 71-0.
Respect is due.

He's at No. 14, he has been given his due respect.

I don't agree but thanks for your input, caller.

forcefraser wrote:Haskins is too high.

He's done very little over the last 18 months, so he is a bit high.

palooka wrote:Good man

Baboon wrote:Fair point, his loyalty may be more due to default than options. Not the prettiest style to watch, but pretty effective. Just a shame that McDonnell, Hall and worst of all Ward get shots at the WT ahead of him even though he beat them all well.

A rematch now with Hall would be interesting.

Haskins has been more entertaining in recent years. I don't think he deserves the boring label anymore.

Hall should be aiming for McDonnell or any of the other champions. I don't see why he'd want to fight Haskins again unless he didn't have any better options.

DazDiCanio wrote:I don't agree but thanks for your input, caller.

Horse, this list is good. Personally I'd have Selby above Afolabi and Quigg above Murray. There is the odd other changes I'd make lower down the rankings (eg Galahad is too low) but overall not bad at all.

Baboon wrote:

Horse wrote: 17. (17.) Lee Haskins - Sanigar

Says it all really, if he showed less loyalty and buggered off to one of the big two, he'd probably have had the opportunities to be a few places higher than that at least. Damn shame.

I think you need to understand the boxing business before making comments like this?! We manage Lee Haskins and have to promote him to ensure he stays busy and manoeuvre him into bigger fights. He is now set to box on undercard of Golovkin v Murray in Monaco 21st Feb for European Title against Omar Lamiri live on channel 5

We would negotiate deals with bigger promoters just like we have with Lee Selby whom we also manage but Hearn has McDonnell and won't risk him against Haskins. Warren likewise has Paul Butler.

When you start to criticise a boxer for being loyal to their manager that's looked after him since he was 13 years of age the mind boggles!

I'm proud we have two boxers in Selby and Haskins in the top 20! Roll on 2015.

I don't think baboon was being critical about Lee showing loyalty, Jamie; more the stupidity and the crassness of the situation.

palooka wrote:I don't think baboon was being critical about Lee showing loyalty, Jamie; more the stupidity and the crassness of the situation.

On reflection reading Baboon's next post I see what you mean.

It's been very frustrating with Haskins especially with the other British bantams getting their chance at world titles. Unfortunately boxing involves so much politics it's frustrating when a fighter like Haskins gets overlooked because he's viewed as "too good" "too risky" to defend their world title against. Hopefully he will get his shot in 2015, one things for sure we are trying our best!

All Lee can do is keep training hard and winning, there are lots of posters on here that see the situation and shake their heads. Lee is a funny fighter though, one fight he looks a million dollars and the next he looks like someone else who looks like him is boxing. Hope things turn out OK. Do you still see anything of The Rooster?

Haskins has now matured into a more exciting and consistent boxer unfortunately his time in the spotlight on SKY came to early on for him where it's fair to say he was in some poor to watch fights. The Monaco fight 21st Feb is his chance on Channel 5 and American TV to impress. Hopefully his luck will change in 2015 he deserves it for his perseverance.

Ross is well he pops in every couple of months to catch up. He is still super fit doing triathlons and works as a scaffolder.

Best of luck with it Jamie, Lee must be very strong minded after all the ups and downs;I'm glad Ross is doing well, he always seemed a really decent bloke.