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thepocketrocket wrote:I remember when Hopkins and RJJ were at their peak and Calzaghe was saying he was scared of flying. This changed when they went over the hill.

Makes you think,

Scared of flying to the canvas!

Parson Cross wrote:It's Chavez.
Deal done.

That's great news, my only concern is whether Chavez will actually train for it and the fight comes off. He is his own man and he seems to switch on and off with regards to boxing. I hope I am wrong though.It would be a great way for Froch to finish his career in style!!

Is this the sort of fight that can actually be top of the bill in Vegas? Or would it be chief support to something?

If it can be top of the bill I would imagine it's purely Chavez and his big following that allows it to be, no?

Froch has reached a level now where he'll take a few over. Not Hattonesque but far more than Joe and Amir. The Groves catapulted him onto a totally new level. He has a lot to than the ginger whinger for!

thepocketrocket wrote:I remember when Hopkins and RJJ were at their peak and Calzaghe was saying he was scared of flying. This changed when they went over the hill.

Makes you think,

And why did Hopkins agree to fight him, then ask for double the money a day later?

Riddick Blowe wrote:

thepocketrocket wrote:I remember when Hopkins and RJJ were at their peak and Calzaghe was saying he was scared of flying. This changed when they went over the hill.

Makes you think,

Scared of flying to the canvas!

Exactly. Why he would expect RJJ and Hopkins to come to Cardiff god only knows.

Even if they had he would have pulled an injury like he did with Johnson and wanted to do against Lacy.

Give me Hatton going over to the States to fight the best of his generation any day of the week over Calzaghe. He could easily have defended his belt against average fighters, all the time proclaiming he could have beaten them. Instead he lost, but he tried.

jameswilson wrote:

davie wrote:Does anyone remember Calzaghe getting pelters for taking on has-beens like Hopkins and RJJ.
Froch was still building a career then and now he's about to retire and Hopkins is still an attractive option.
Makes you think.

Yeah it makes you think how you have come to the conclusion that Hopkins is an attractive option.

Do you think Froch's team would be considering it?
It sells, it's a big name, a living legend, a HOFer, it can be done in vegas, it's a man, who until a month ago was holding 2 world titles and still holds a world record.
It would be a far more competative fight than Kovalev vs Hopkins

I never said it's an attractive option for me.

thepocketrocket wrote:

Riddick Blowe wrote:

thepocketrocket wrote:I remember when Hopkins and RJJ were at their peak and Calzaghe was saying he was scared of flying. This changed when they went over the hill.

Makes you think,

Scared of flying to the canvas!

Exactly. Why he would expect RJJ and Hopkins to come to Cardiff god only knows.

Even if they had he would have pulled an injury like he did with Johnson and wanted to do against Lacy.

Give me Hatton going over to the States to fight the best of his generation any day of the week over Calzaghe. He could easily have defended his belt against average fighters, all the time proclaiming he could have beaten them. Instead he lost, but he tried.

But didn't,Calzaghe fought the best at the time in Kessler

davie wrote:

jameswilson wrote:

davie wrote:Does anyone remember Calzaghe getting pelters for taking on has-beens like Hopkins and RJJ.
Froch was still building a career then and now he's about to retire and Hopkins is still an attractive option.
Makes you think.

Yeah it makes you think how you have come to the conclusion that Hopkins is an attractive option.

Do you think Froch's team would be considering it?
It sells, it's a big name, a living legend, a HOFer, it can be done in vegas, it's a man, who until a month ago was holding 2 world titles and still holds a world record.
It would be a far more competative fight than Kovalev vs Hopkins

I never said it's an attractive option for me.

There has been little talk about this fight by the main protagonists and I find it really odd, it's an absolute natural for me. Hopkins said he wants to move down and Froch is a draw and the sort of guy Hopkins will be confident of beating. I want to see Hopkins being asked about Froch as an option and vice versa.

The only thing is Vegas, Hopkins isn't really a Vegas fighter any more, and this doesn't seem like a massive Vegas attraction to me.

thepocketrocket wrote:I remember when Hopkins and RJJ were at their peak and Calzaghe was saying he was scared of flying. This changed when they went over the hill.

Makes you think,

This.

I was stood at the weekend watching my boy play football - some younger fellas there - we were talking boxing and naturally you have to hold back a bit for fear of dominating the convo with too much because you've spent too much time on here.

But then one said

"Oh yeh, you got to hand it to Calzaghe though, he fought fkking everyone"

Couldn't hold back.....

"You are fkking joking Rob aren't you?"

"er, no."

"What about the five years he spent in Wales fighting nobodies because he was scared of flying?, what about Beyer, Haussler, Vanderpool, Catley, Sanavia, Lucas, Reid II, Froch, Magee, Kessler II, Eastman, Woods, Johnson, Tarver, Hopkins, Jones Jnr [before they got old] or [while they had a title] or Brewer and Mitchell before they'd already be beaten by Ottke. Who is Tocker Pudwill, Will McIntyre.............why a VEIT rematch and suddenly you can travel?"

Calzaghe's best wins in order for me: Hopkins, Kessler, Bika, Eubank, Lacy.

Aside from Hopkins - Froch has 8-9 equal or better opponents/victories.

"er"

NB - I didn't say all of the above, nobody likes an anorak.

Only way Froch makes a Vegas fight is if he gets Chavez. Even GGG or Ward would not make the cut I don't think. They need Hispanic crowd. Froch isn't Hatton, he wont mobilise the same audience. I could be wrong.

Parson Cross aka Deep Throat

DavidPayne wrote:

thepocketrocket wrote:I remember when Hopkins and RJJ were at their peak and Calzaghe was saying he was scared of flying. This changed when they went over the hill.

Makes you think,

This.

I was stood at the weekend watching my boy play football - some younger fellas there - we were talking boxing and naturally you have to hold back a bit for fear of dominating the convo with too much because you've spent too much time on here.

But then one said

"Oh yeh, you got to hand it to Calzaghe though, he fought fkking everyone"

Couldn't hold back.....

"You are fkking joking Rob aren't you?"

"er, no."

"What about the five years he spent in Wales fighting nobodies because he was scared of flying?, what about Beyer, Haussler, Vanderpool, Catley, Sanavia, Lucas, Reid II, Froch, Magee, Kessler II, Eastman, Woods, Johnson, Tarver, Hopkins, Jones Jnr [before they got old] or [while they had a title] or Brewer and Mitchell before they'd already be beaten by Ottke. Who is Tocker Pudwill, Will McIntyre.............why a VEIT rematch and suddenly you can travel?"

Calzaghe's best wins in order for me: Hopkins, Kessler, Bika, Eubank, Lacy.

Aside from Hopkins - Froch has 8-9 equal or better opponents/victories.

"er"

NB - I didn't say all of the above, nobody likes an anorak.

I had the same argument at a birthday party a few years ago. I felt my argument was wasted on the audience but couldn't hold back

Sklar wrote:Parson Cross aka Deep Throat

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I think you'd be surprised by the amount of Brits that would travel to Vegas if it was billed as Froch's final fight and he and Chavez Jr sells out easily in my opinion

And if Chavez Jr has knocked the drink and drugs on the head he'll make a fight of it

Sklar / Jim Jim
I'm a little bit lost. Is that Deep Throat the porno movie or the Watergate Informer ?
Don't shoot the messenger - read Fast Eddies latest press release. It's on April 2015 v Chavez in Vegas.

Got it slightly wrong.
March 28 2015 MGM Las Vegas.
My birthday - nice present.

Parson Cross wrote:Got it slightly wrong.
March 28 2015 MGM Las Vegas.
My birthday - nice present.

Happy birthday for then mate - my birthday was 31st May....I'm sure something happened that day...

Something big did happen that day Mark - fancy Sturm losing to Soliman !!

The problem with a Vegas in fight March, the cheaper airlines don't start doing flights until April by the looks of it...

Not been to Vegas for a few years now, this might be just the spur for me to travel stateside once more.

forcefraser wrote:After the drubbing he took against Kovalev I don't think this fight has any merit for Froch.

Give Degale a shot or retire.

Froch should fight Degale if he still wants to fight. It shouldn't be a farewell/ one for the road type of fight. He either want it or he doesn't.
I think Degale has the capability of winning - however, I was alarmed that George Groves got put away like that, so I'd have to say Froch, but it's no gimme.

Degale is fighting Groves. Froch vis fighting Chavez jnr.

Parson Cross wrote:Degale is fighting Groves. Froch vis fighting Chavez jnr.

Both on PPV?

Parson Cross wrote:Something big did happen that day Mark - fancy Sturm losing to Soliman !!

I parked next to Phil Taylor at Wembley...!

Edit: Degale v Groves for the vacant IBF?