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KBB wrote: Dumbest thing I've ever read from a total Dumb Ass to boot!! Floyd is not a Free Agent, he is self-promoting his own name with Haymon backing him.

KBB wrote:You've proven how you are the Dumbest person on this forum and on Earth, now do yourself a favor and stfu.

ClivePatrickLyons wrote:Just had a read of some fu.....bull.... by Chris Williams is he from HBO[ don't know or care ]he stated that Mayweather deserve's most of the money in a Pacman matchup because he get's more PPV these day's compared to Pacman Iam fed up with this gabbage THIS IS THE BIGGEST FIGHT IN THE GAME A MEGA FIGHT Williams claims Pacman and his team cannot expect TO EVEN GET A 60/40 SPLIT WHO'S MAYWEATHER GONNA FIGHT TO GET POSSIBLY 100 MILLION DOLLAR'S PAYDAY I'LL TELL YOU FU..... NOBODY

IT TAKE'S 2 SUPER STAR'S TO MAKE A SUPER FIGHT.....................NOT 1. WILLIAMS SURELY WON'T PUT A END TO ANY DUCKING.

Badhusker wrote:Ricky & Roidian are not worthy of a response. Trolls with a capital T.

Badhusker wrote:Ricky & Roidian are not worthy of a response. Trolls with a capital T.

tiny_acres wrote:

Badhusker wrote:Ricky & Roidian are not worthy of a response. Trolls with a capital T.

Poster children for abortion.

Ricky_ wrote:

tiny_acres wrote:

Badhusker wrote:Ricky & Roidian are not worthy of a response. Trolls with a capital T.

Poster children for abortion.

tiny_brain, just another Floyd groupie getting his titties in a bunch - or maybe just another 1 of the many accounts of the one they call Brut

ikorolev wrote:You dislike them both as humans ? EQUALLY ??? What did Pac do to cause the same dislike as Floyd ?

Did he make fun of his friend about his wife possibly cheating on him and was then having fun a day after witnessing a murder suicide ?

http://www.tmz.com/2014/12/10/floyd-may ... ers-seats/?

fergusg wrote: Domestic abuse aside...

fergusg wrote:• Manny chose to accept Top Rank & HBO’s contract extension bonus

fergusg wrote:• At the height of his powers, he flatly-refused to undergo random blood-based VADA administered drug testing

fergusg wrote:he was only willing to be tested on his terms

fergusg wrote:• He is also constantly criticised for always being absent at Congress, but he finds the time to play professional PBA basketball (as a playing coach), as well as being a professional boxer, actor and singer

ReggieDiggs wrote:If CBS can kill Bob Arum I think this fight can be made.

The bottom line for me is Bob & Floyd can't exist & this fight happen. Floyd is one of the parties in the ring so he has to be involved. Bob is just legally contracted to the other party so he doesn't absolutely need to be a part of these two guys fighting.

fergusg wrote:

Ricky_ wrote:

fergusg wrote: Domestic abuse aside...

Yeah, let's just move the battering of an ex-wife and mother of your children to 1 side for moment

fergusg wrote:• Manny chose to accept Top Rank & HBO’s contract extension bonus

Oh man, Pacquiao, you bad ass.

fergusg wrote:• At the height of his powers, he flatly-refused to undergo random blood-based VADA administered drug testing

fergusg wrote:he was only willing to be tested on his terms

That's not flatly refusing then, is it?

fergusg wrote:• He is also constantly criticised for always being absent at Congress, but he finds the time to play professional PBA basketball (as a playing coach), as well as being a professional boxer, actor and singer

So you're not a fan of his busy schedule?

You’re cherry-picking selective elements of my comments without putting them into context.

For example:
• If you're only willing to be tested for PED’s based on your terms, that is actually flatly-refusing to undergo random unanounced blood-based VADA standard drug testing. You’re either getting tested properly, like every other professional athlete tested by VADA, or you’re not. Manny turned down the chance of a super-fight against Floyd in 2009, because he wasn’t willing to undergo proper testing!
• Placing the blame entirely on Floyd for the failure of a fight between himself and Manny, like you have done, is a moronic thing to do! Especially considering the fact that it was Pacquiao that actually started the cold war... and he could have avoided the whole Al Haymon-Top Rank & HBO-Showtime debacle by becoming a free agent like Miguel Cotto, which he decided against, as he preferred the one-off cheque instead.
• Technically-speaking, if Manny doesn’t pay his tax bills, his jail term would likely exceed Floyd’s for domestic abuse (possibly two-years imprisonment)! There must be a reason for this, especially because he's a politician!
• If you’re a politician that was voted into office, then you have a professional and moral duty to act in the best interests of the people you’re supposed to represent. Instead, Manny prefers not to go to Congress, because he’s too busy boxing, playing basketball, singing terrible songs and being a part-time actor, as he deems those hobby’s as more important than his political duties. This is compounded by the fact that he doesn't pay taxes to his own country.

fergusg wrote:

Purse Bid Shakedown wrote:As usual, you don't know what you're talking about, but love to hear yourself type. Clueless, VADA was never an option when dealing with Floyd, cause they don't entertain limited disclosure clauses or therapeutic exemptions. It was a private test regime under USADA, the first of its kind, so not "proper testing" as boxing is concerned.

When did you start watching boxing anyway, troll?

I think you’re getting carried away. I typed VADA when I meant WADA. It was an easy mistake to make, as both acronyms are very similar.

fergusg wrote: I typed one letter wrong… one letter! Yet you’ve conveniently side-stepped the main point itself from the sentence I wrote… and instead focussed on one letter!

You also decided to side-step all the other points I listed!

You’re welcome to boast about correcting me on getting one letter wrong, as long as you actually address all the other points I made… or are you going to conveniently ignore my claims, because you can’t undermine them?

By the way, to use their own words... "USADA is a fully compliant signatory to the World Anti-Doping Code."

Ricky_ wrote:

ReggieDiggs wrote:If CBS can kill Bob Arum I think this fight can be made.

The bottom line for me is Bob & Floyd can't exist & this fight happen. Floyd is one of the parties in the ring so he has to be involved. Bob is just legally contracted to the other party so he doesn't absolutely need to be a part of these two guys fighting.

Finally, someone who seems to get it, Floyd either fights under the Top Rank banner on old Bob's terms or no fight with Pacquiao.

tiny_acres wrote:

Ricky_ wrote:

ReggieDiggs wrote:If CBS can kill Bob Arum I think this fight can be made.

The bottom line for me is Bob & Floyd can't exist & this fight happen. Floyd is one of the parties in the ring so he has to be involved. Bob is just legally contracted to the other party so he doesn't absolutely need to be a part of these two guys fighting.

Finally, someone who seems to get it, Floyd either fights under the Top Rank banner on old Bob's terms or no fight with Pacquiao.

Serious question.A straight forward honest answer is expected.
If you left a job that you hated.You hated your boss with all of your heart and felt underpaid and under utilized.
And you left out on your own and struck it rich.I mean filthy rich.
And you could continue to make a ton of money without this former boss.
WOULD YOU GO BACK FOR MORE MONEY??????????


It's funny that Floyd shows public personal disdain for Arum who possibly saved his life by paying off James Prince and mediating that situation but you never hear him talk publically about Prince. J Prince was the one who beat up Floyd's friends and family and threatened him. Floyd act so hard but he's so scared of James Prince.

That is the question about Floyd and Bob. The hatred both men have for each other.
Can and would you work with him????
Is pride more important than cash?I can not give an honest answer because I am not in either man's
shoes.But it is to me more a pride thing than anything else.

tiny_acres wrote:

Ricky_ wrote:

ReggieDiggs wrote:If CBS can kill Bob Arum I think this fight can be made.

The bottom line for me is Bob & Floyd can't exist & this fight happen. Floyd is one of the parties in the ring so he has to be involved. Bob is just legally contracted to the other party so he doesn't absolutely need to be a part of these two guys fighting.

Finally, someone who seems to get it, Floyd either fights under the Top Rank banner on old Bob's terms or no fight with Pacquiao.

Serious question.A straight forward honest answer is expected.
If you left a job that you hated.You hated your boss with all of your heart and felt underpaid and under utilized.
And you left out on your own and struck it rich.I mean filthy rich.
And you could continue to make a ton of money without this former boss.
WOULD YOU GO BACK FOR MORE MONEY??????????


That is the question about Floyd and Bob. The hatred both men have for each other.
Can and would you work with him????
Is pride more important than cash?I can not give an honest answer because I am not in either man's
shoes.But it is to me more a pride thing than anything else.

fergusg wrote:

Purse Bid Shakedown wrote:So it's compliant, as is VADA, but WADA has nothing to do with the private contract Floyd signed with USADA. In fact Arum at the time insisted on testing under the auspices of WADA, was told no go. But you must have not been following boxing at the time.

WADA is the standard - USADA is the testing agency that adheres to that standard. If Floyd wanted USADA, then by proxy, he also wanted WADA, hence the quote... "USADA is a fully compliant signatory to the World Anti-Doping Code."

Purse Bid Shakedown wrote:Your other points are equally wrongheaded or irrelevant. This is a boxing message board, I don't care about Filipino political intrigues or tax dodging. Most US politicians and industry moguls do it, there's a whole industry of tax avoidance. Floyd was in tax trouble as well. Pac resigning with Top Rank, once again you show your cluelessness: "he preferred the one-off cheque instead". Sh1t for brains, Pac's market value has dropped and there's nowhere he could have gotten 20m for the likes of Rios, Algieri. Only Arum's Macau connections allow that. No wonder Cotto is back working with Top Rank, other than the Floyd fight he only got scraps elsewhere, eg 1m vs Trout.

You’re using “straw man” debating tactics rather than consider and argue against my original post... you're avoiding the thoughts that I actually hold.

Why don’t you read my original comment, rather than labouring over my spelling mistake (WADA or VADA)… and then get back to me with a carefully-considered honest reply that directly challenges my actual thoughts, the sort that a man with integrity would support?

tiny_acres wrote:Ricky,
No one has ever claimed that Floyd was the smartest guy in the world.
I honestly think he is too prideful to work with Arum in any venture.
I could be wrong but that is how I see it.

fergusg wrote:

Purse Bid Shakedown wrote:Don't cry please. VADA is also fully compliant. Floyd rejects VADA, hence by your reasoning, he rejects WADA.

VADA-style testing is supposed to be more refined than USADA (by proxy WADA), because it tests a bigger variety of drugs and has small to zero tolerances. In simple terms, VADA and WADA are entirely separate entities with significantly different rules.

Therefore, why the fornicate are you claiming that VADA is "fully compliant"?

I admitted to making a typo and incorrectly spelled an acronym, but you've assumed all sorts of things based on that one single trivial spelling mistake!

I openly admitted to incorrectly spelling an acronym, but you now pretend I hold a stance that I’ve never claimed.

What the fornicate are you talking about, man?

Purse Bid Shakedown wrote:I'm not using straw man tactics, I quoted you directly. If you're embarrassed by what you wrote, as you should be, next time put more thought into it in advance.

You didn’t quote me directly… you merely took a few tiny snippets of what I’ve wrote and used your creative imagination to throw all sorts of insults at me and argue against a stance I’ve never maintained, hence my accusation of you using “straw man debating” tactics!

Either address the entirety of my claims head on or not at all!

All this side-stepping you’re doing is illustrating the fact that you cannot challenge me, so you’re the one that’s acting like a troll, not me!