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Re: Khan vs Alexander predictions

Posted: 13 Dec 2014, 21:01
by Badhusker
Which fits Khan more- being a bert or a bint? :OhYes: I think both

Re: Khan vs Alexander predictions

Posted: 13 Dec 2014, 21:31
by Badhusker
If khan fought Berto or Victor Ortiz, I think he would lose.

Re: Khan vs Alexander predictions

Posted: 14 Dec 2014, 04:46
by kidbazooka1
No khan fan but I'm glad He took out annoying ass Alexander.

Re: Khan vs Alexander predictions

Posted: 14 Dec 2014, 05:56
by Batley18
Badhusker wrote:If khan fought Berto or Victor Ortiz, I think he would lose.
No chance, I think he would stop both of them.

Re: Khan vs Alexander predictions

Posted: 14 Dec 2014, 07:50
by Andrew
Batley18 wrote:
Badhusker wrote:If khan fought Berto or Victor Ortiz, I think he would lose.
No chance, I think he would stop both of them.
:TU:

Re: Khan vs Alexander predictions

Posted: 14 Dec 2014, 08:52
by palooka
Badhusker wrote:If khan fought Berto or Victor Ortiz, I think he would lose.
Khan is a league above either Berto or Ortiz and it would be target practice.

Re: Khan vs Alexander predictions

Posted: 14 Dec 2014, 09:32
by Badhusker
Probably bad examples, but one thing you can bank on is Khan avoiding big punchers like Thurman, Matthysse, or Maidana.

I still think it was dumb of him to waste his time beating a guy that was recently beat by Porter. Now Khan will probably have to fight Porter, Brook, or Thurman. He will probably instead pick someone like Paulie. :OhYes:

Re: Khan vs Alexander predictions

Posted: 14 Dec 2014, 10:00
by NateJR
Badhusker wrote:Probably bad examples, but one thing you can bank on is Khan avoiding big punchers like Thurman, Matthysse, or Maidana.

I still think it was dumb of him to waste his time beating a guy that was recently beat by Porter. Now Khan will probably have to fight Porter, Brook, or Thurman. He will probably instead pick someone like Paulie. :OhYes:
By the looks of Thurman last night, his punching power may be a bit overrated based on his limited opposition. I think Khan whitewashes Thurman. Now Mattysse and Madaina have legit power and have shown it against legit top guys.

Re: Khan vs Alexander predictions

Posted: 14 Dec 2014, 10:17
by CheckHook
Khan's already faced Maidana so he's clearly not afraid to share the ring with punchers. Maidana was just about the biggest and most dangerous puncher at 140 when Khan faced him, so its nonsense to suggest Khan has spent his career cherry picking easy fights or guys without a punch. I'd say Garcia has well above average power at 140 and Khan fought him when hardly anyone outside boxing knew who he was. Even Collazo was coming off probably the best KO of his career. Its boring to hear the same tired clichés about Khan. He wins a fight then a bunch of people come on here and come out with something along the lines of; 'I bet he wont fight <insert most dangerous puncher in division> next.' Khan picks his fights the same as everyone else, risk vs reward. The reason he hasn't fought Thurman yet is the same reason all the other top fighters at 147 haven't, there's no money in it.

Re: Khan vs Alexander predictions

Posted: 14 Dec 2014, 10:29
by Rodian
Alexander looked visibly smaller, obviously not a 147 pounder.

Re: Khan vs Alexander predictions

Posted: 14 Dec 2014, 10:36
by Badhusker
CheckHook wrote:Khan's already faced Maidana so he's clearly not afraid to share the ring with punchers. Maidana was just about the biggest and most dangerous puncher at 140 when Khan faced him, so its nonsense to suggest Khan has spent his career cherry picking easy fights or guys without a punch. I'd say Garcia has well above average power at 140 and Khan fought him when hardly anyone outside boxing knew who he was. Even Collazo was coming off probably the best KO of his career. Its boring to hear the same tired clichés about Khan. He wins a fight then a bunch of people come on here and come out with something along the lines of; 'I bet he wont fight <insert most dangerous puncher in division> next.' Khan picks his fights the same as everyone else, risk vs reward. The reason he hasn't fought Thurman yet is the same reason all the other top fighters at 147 haven't, there's no money in it.
Tell me this then. Why do you think he picked Alexander over the guy that recently dominated him? (Porter) It doesn't make sense other than Alexander is a light puncher with a style that suits Khans.

Re: Khan vs Alexander predictions

Posted: 14 Dec 2014, 11:14
by CheckHook
Badhusker wrote:Tell me this then. Why do you think he picked Alexander over the guy that recently dominated him? (Porter) It doesn't make sense other than Alexander is a light puncher with a style that suits Khans.
Because they looked at Alexander as an easier nights work with the same name recognition. I've already said its risk vs reward. That said, you aren't improving your argument by simply naming harder hitting fighters that Khan could've fought, especially when one of those fighters you name that Khan is apparently afraid to fight is a guy he's already fought.

Re: Khan vs Alexander predictions

Posted: 14 Dec 2014, 11:42
by Badhusker
The fact is that Khan has been avoiding hard punchers, like Thurman for example. He will hardly mention his name. A Maidana rematch would be good too since Khan barely survived the first time at 140, but he won't go there either. Khan also has avoided guys that would rough him up, like Guerrero and Porter. It is pretty obvious he pays very careful attention to risk vs reward, especially the risk part.

It makes no sense at all for him to fight Alexander instead of Porter, other than it is a safer fight. He has also turned down a 5$ million offer to fight Brook. Another high risk fight.

I will rejoice when both Pac and Floyd retire and Khan is forced to fight the rest of the best in the division, and shut his mouth about begging for a fight with Floyd. Khan is now 4-2 in his last 6 fights. One more good win against Porter, Brook, or Thurman would get him there. Khan and Alexander were at the bottom of the top ten according to ring, not top five. Its not about who is the best match-up to beat Floyd, it is who he chooses to fight and who he thinks deserves it most. I do think he will pick Khan if Pac doesn't agree to his terms. Personally at 147 I think Thurman would have the best shot.

Re: Khan vs Alexander predictions

Posted: 14 Dec 2014, 11:53
by CheckHook
Badhusker wrote: It makes no sense at all for him to fight Alexander instead of Porter, other than it is a safer fight.
Its a safer fight with the same name recognition, that's what you are missing.... There are plenty already calling Porter a hype job off the back of his loss to Brook, so its not like Khan is getting much extra leverage beating him over beating Alexander.

As for not fighting Thurman, well we can level that claim against everyone at welter, since Thurman hasn't fought anyone of note. So maybe its time to level the same criticism at the other top fighters at 147, instead of just Amir. In fact, isn't Keith holding the interim title to Floyd's WBA strap these days? I don't hear Floyd talking up a fight between him and Thurman much though...

With respect, you are completely predictable with your hypocrisy. Every time Khan wins a fight, you will be here moaning that it wasn't a fight against a hard hitting opponent until he fights a banger, if he wins that, you'll say it was a limit puncher and claim that xxxx is the real threat in the division, until Khan gets KO'd again, which we all know is inevitable and when that happens you will be here to tell everyone 'I told you so' like you know something we all don't.

Re: Khan vs Alexander predictions

Posted: 14 Dec 2014, 23:02
by Evander
After awhile it seemed like they were going through the motions, Khan was a clear winner on the numbers.
Neither of them excited me.

Re: Khan vs Alexander predictions

Posted: 14 Dec 2014, 23:59
by Tanzio
Evander wrote:After awhile it seemed like they were going through the motions, Khan was a clear winner on the numbers.
Neither of them excited me.
I think Khan showed significant growth as a boxer. He took less risks, and boxed his way to a clear victory when it was clear that little short of a tactical nuke can crack Alexander's chin.

Re: Khan vs Alexander predictions

Posted: 15 Dec 2014, 05:32
by Batley18
When commenting on Amir Khan, people need to put their dislike for him aside. It seems like the man can do nothing to please you. Claiming he hasn't fought big punchers when he has gone against the like of Maidana and Garcia, saying he is picking safe fights when he fought Collazo on his WW debut, and two weight World champion Devon Alexander afterwards. Devon was ranked four places higher in the Boxrec rankings than Khan. Mayweather said that he was passing on the torch to Alexander four years ago, Khan wanted to make an impression to get a fight with Floyd, the jigsaw pieces are starting to fit.

Thurman has no fought anyone, and is not considered to be at that elite level yet. There seems to be a bit of a hype train surrounding him at the moment, but good boxers are always going to look good against poor opponents. Porter lost to Brook, who has long been at loggerheads with Khan. How would Khan benefit from taking that fight? There is nothing wrong with matching you up against a guy you think you can beat, I am sure Alexander was thinking the same when he took the fight. I am sure Mayweather thought the same in his two fights with Maidana, and saw an easier nights work than Khan.

Re: Khan vs Alexander predictions

Posted: 15 Dec 2014, 17:57
by Tarkus
Time to gloat :yay:

Alexander did not surprise anyone did he. He was exactly the same bum as he is always is.

Hope Khan steps in there with Brook in the Summer. Lets see if he really learned how to take care of his chin. Against a big welter who can actually box and punch it will show.