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Re: claude abrams vs prince naseem hamed
Posted: 13 Dec 2014, 14:33
by palooka
Chimp Sutton wrote:palooka wrote:No, chimp, I rarely go out on an evening. I bump into Johnny from time to time, Jason too and a few friends do security at The Dome boxing shows, David Jules, Kasi Kaihou and teddy's toupee. (not as exciting as going to the shows I know - did I tell you I know one of the cleaners at the Dome as well?
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How's Jason doing these days, hope he's okay?
Chimp

He's doing OK, chimp. He gets out and about, he's got a social life and loads of people like and admire him - his dad is a diamond as well and very supportive of him.
Re: claude abrams vs prince naseem hamed
Posted: 13 Dec 2014, 14:36
by Chimp Sutton
'Chi(m)p' ... clever stuff well done.
Why do you ask this question, have I said anything remotely derogatory about any Sheffield fighter?
(Rhetorical question as I KNOW I haven't)
Chimp

Re: claude abrams vs prince naseem hamed
Posted: 13 Dec 2014, 14:39
by Chimp Sutton
palooka wrote:He's doing OK, chimp. He gets out and about, he's got a social life and loads of people like and admire him - his dad is a diamond as well and very supportive of him.
Very glad to hear that, really nice guy Jason.
Chimp

Re: claude abrams vs prince naseem hamed
Posted: 13 Dec 2014, 14:53
by Parson Cross
I assumed your put down regarding venues fought at was a dig - if not my apologies.
Re: claude abrams vs prince naseem hamed
Posted: 13 Dec 2014, 15:13
by Neil Gee
I used to read BN religiously at the time when Abrams took over as editor and remember somebody writing in to ask if this spar had actually happened. Abram's response was an abrupt "See issue bla year bla"; I don't know him as a man but as an editor he definitely lacked any of his predecessor's easy charm.
Re: claude abrams vs prince naseem hamed
Posted: 13 Dec 2014, 16:23
by big lennox
Back to the youtube clip-how good was Naz's footwork?
Re: From what I heard Abrams is a really straight forward pleasant guy.He was a very good editor, I thought!!
Re: claude abrams vs prince naseem hamed
Posted: 13 Dec 2014, 16:30
by Chimp Sutton
Parson Cross wrote:I assumed your put down regarding venues fought at was a dig - if not my apologies.
No apology needed Sir, it wasn't intended as a slight when I mentioned the 'less glamorous' venues I assure you.
Chimp

Re: claude abrams vs prince naseem hamed
Posted: 13 Dec 2014, 17:37
by Neil Gee
big lennox wrote:
Re: From what I heard Abrams is a really straight forward pleasant guy.He was a very good editor, I thought!!
He had a hard act to follow in Harry Mullan who oversaw BN's highest selling figures of all time (so far); I had a couple of long responses to letters from Mullan that showed he really had time for the ordinary fan; sorry but Abrams never came across as contributor-friendly in the same way. Maybe he suffers in comparison to Mullan but he could come across as curt & having no time for fans he disagreed with. He didn't invite discussion in the way the much missed Mullan did, and that's part of an editor's job so I think it's a valid criticism.
Re: claude abrams vs prince naseem hamed
Posted: 13 Dec 2014, 18:21
by manno
Neil Gee wrote:big lennox wrote:
Re: From what I heard Abrams is a really straight forward pleasant guy.He was a very good editor, I thought!!
He had a hard act to follow in Harry Mullan who oversaw BN's highest selling figures of all time (so far); I had a couple of long responses to letters from Mullan that showed he really had time for the ordinary fan; sorry but Abrams never came across as contributor-friendly in the same way. Maybe he suffers in comparison to Mullan but he could come across as curt & having no time for fans he disagreed with. He didn't invite discussion in the way the much missed Mullan did, and that's part of an editor's job so I think it's a valid criticism.[/quote Larry Holmes following Ali Neil I think. Met them both myself and indeed Mr Mullan was warm and approachable to the fan/fighter and Claude in comparison could seem aloof and I remember one BN report when Claude critisised my apparent lack of shape, I promptly phoned BN to complain, got put straight thru to Claude who took some serious verbal licks off me self with diginity! Next fight Claude did report and was favourable in reguard to my physical condition. Good boxing man in my eyes

Re: claude abrams vs prince naseem hamed
Posted: 13 Dec 2014, 21:22
by polecateddy
I remember the article. I think Claude said he got hit once with a big shot to the stomach early on and it really hurt. And generally he was impressed by how hard Naz was to hit.
Re: claude abrams vs prince naseem hamed
Posted: 14 Dec 2014, 00:23
by reggaereggae
was Claude any good? I think he considered turning pro but he looks clueless here..
Re: claude abrams vs prince naseem hamed
Posted: 14 Dec 2014, 03:04
by mickey1975
Prediction wise, Claude was the best I've read.
Re: claude abrams vs prince naseem hamed
Posted: 14 Dec 2014, 09:08
by palooka
reggaereggae wrote:was Claude any good? I think he considered turning pro but he looks clueless here..
He looks very basic and self taught but to be fair Hamed made world class fighters look clueless and way out of their depth.
Re: claude abrams vs prince naseem hamed
Posted: 14 Dec 2014, 13:29
by hurlock
Anyone notice Claude using the shoulder roll to no effect?! He had his sheet down & pbf stole his moves!!!
Chimp...you know chimp about boxing
Re: claude abrams vs prince naseem hamed
Posted: 08 Aug 2018, 07:57
by ILikeBeer
Chimp Sutton wrote: ↑13 Dec 2014, 16:30
Parson Cross wrote:I assumed your put down regarding venues fought at was a dig - if not my apologies.
No apology needed Sir, it wasn't intended as a slight when I mentioned the 'less glamorous' venues I assure you.
Chimp
Alright Chimp?

Re: claude abrams vs prince naseem hamed
Posted: 08 Aug 2018, 08:34
by Stuarty
Whatever happened to Palooka?
Re: claude abrams vs prince naseem hamed
Posted: 08 Aug 2018, 08:40
by bripez
Stuarty wrote: ↑08 Aug 2018, 08:34
Whatever happened to Palooka?
Palookaville ?
Re: claude abrams vs prince naseem hamed
Posted: 08 Aug 2018, 08:44
by Stuarty
bripez wrote: ↑08 Aug 2018, 08:40
Stuarty wrote: ↑08 Aug 2018, 08:34
Whatever happened to Palooka?
Palookaville ?
Perhaps

Re: claude abrams vs prince naseem hamed
Posted: 08 Aug 2018, 22:00
by Wales
Parson Cross wrote: ↑13 Dec 2014, 10:06
Sparring to the head is a no no at Wincobank - whoever is in the ring.
That can’t be true. No chance.
Re: claude abrams vs prince naseem hamed
Posted: 09 Aug 2018, 00:37
by leejonesjnr
Wales wrote: ↑08 Aug 2018, 22:00
Parson Cross wrote: ↑13 Dec 2014, 10:06
Sparring to the head is a no no at Wincobank - whoever is in the ring.
That can’t be true. No chance.
Its common knowledge that in Brendans day there was body sparring only as a matter of course and the pros would do 'full' sparring for a few weeks towards the end of camp.
Re: claude abrams vs prince naseem hamed
Posted: 09 Aug 2018, 01:23
by Wales
Yeah, so they do full spar there . Plenty of videos of brook sparring I’m sure, also remember Eubank knocking Graham over with an uppercut in sparring there
Re: claude abrams vs prince naseem hamed
Posted: 09 Aug 2018, 02:30
by orbtastic
Didn’t there used to be a sign on the wall?
I think it has changed of late, head sparring happens, for pros at least.
Re: claude abrams vs prince naseem hamed
Posted: 10 Aug 2018, 15:04
by JC
This tread made me google Claude Abrams, looks like he’s now a strength and conditioning coach.
Funnily enough his successor Tris Dixon is similarly running a cross fit franchise (I think).
Both look in brilliant condition.