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I had it 117-111 Bradley,there were all mostly close rounds which Chaves had plenty to say but Timothy was having the last word more often and the quality was always with him i thought

Its a shame we should be talking of this BS again rather than a great fight which Diego fought his heart out and although he'll be delighted with the draw,im sure he'll take the same flak Bradley recieved after his gift in the 1st Pacquiao fight,on a lesser scale obviously,i doubt Chaves will recieve death threats but the premise is the same

Respect to both men for putting it all on the line,more so Bradley who could have made it easier on himself and got the W

Bradley seems to be intent on making his a more fan friendly style, he has been very disciplined in the past.

eastezrider wrote:Switched over to the last rounds after the Khan-Alexander thing and didn't see anything wrong with a Draw based upon that. HBO is a gaggle of complete wankers, and ShoBox ain't much better... Haymon boosting NBCSports is fine with me.

It was a 12 round fight, so basing your conclusion about the outcome based on a small group of rounds is unwise, and I thought the late rounds were generally closer than the previous ones. The fight was competitive, but I don't see a good case for thinking that Chaves did more in at least six rounds.

crusader wrote:

eastezrider wrote:Switched over to the last rounds after the Khan-Alexander thing and didn't see anything wrong with a Draw based upon that. HBO is a gaggle of complete wankers, and ShoBox ain't much better... Haymon boosting NBCSports is fine with me.

It was a 12 round fight, so basing your conclusion about the outcome based on a small group of rounds is unwise, and I thought the late rounds were generally closer than the previous ones. The fight was competitive, but I don't see a good case for thinking that Chaves did more in at least six rounds.

Wellp... it's kinda like I always told my sons when they were playing Baseball... if you make the play close enough for the Umpire to call you "Out"... then that's your fault, not his... Same principle I use in Boxing... you make the fight close enough for a Judge to score it for the other guy that's your fault... and given the Judges score cards my "missing" the first 6 rounds means I didn't "miss" much... Bradley has no one to blame but himself as far as I am concerned... but that, and $2.52 US will get you a Viente coffee @Starbucks...

There is a reason I call him Ramming Speed. I had him ahead, but, I agree with EZ, he made it too close by trying to be crowd friendly.

eastezrider wrote:

crusader wrote:

eastezrider wrote:Switched over to the last rounds after the Khan-Alexander thing and didn't see anything wrong with a Draw based upon that. HBO is a gaggle of complete wankers, and ShoBox ain't much better... Haymon boosting NBCSports is fine with me.

It was a 12 round fight, so basing your conclusion about the outcome based on a small group of rounds is unwise, and I thought the late rounds were generally closer than the previous ones. The fight was competitive, but I don't see a good case for thinking that Chaves did more in at least six rounds.

Wellp... it's kinda like I always told my sons when they were playing Baseball... if you make the play close enough for the Umpire to call you "Out"... then that's your fault, not his... Same principle I use in Boxing... you make the fight close enough for a Judge to score it for the other guy that's your fault... and given the Judges score cards my "missing" the first 6 rounds means I didn't "miss" much... Bradley has no one to blame but himself as far as I am concerned... but that, and $2.52 US will get you a Viente coffee @Starbucks...

I think it's pretty simple: if there aren't deductions and you have more success than your opponent--no matter by how much--you should win the round. People often make comments like 'oh, not much happened' or 'there wasn't that much between them' as if that justifies scoring the round either way, but those lines are consistent with one fighter having an advantage and thus deserving to win the round. You make it seem as if fighters should be blamed when judges inappropriately score close rounds and I think that's unwarranted, very much like the logic that a fighter on the unfortunate end of an unfair decision can only blame himself if he left it to the judges by not scoring a knockout.

You missing at least half the fight makes you unqualified to declare whether the bout was a robbery or not, for what I think are obvious reasons.