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BAD INTENTIONS wrote:Thurman is saying that if you guys think Khan is next in line, let me fight him and show you that he isn't. What's wrong with that?

I think that's actually what boxing needs. Unfortunately, Khan will DUCK Thurman, probably not get the Floyd fight, then take against a light hitting 140/147 pound fighter.

Especially one coming off a loss, don't surprised to see him face Algieri.

BAD INTENTIONS wrote:Thurman is saying that if you guys think Khan is next in line, let me fight him and show you that he isn't. What's wrong with that?

I think that's actually what boxing needs. Unfortunately, Khan will DUCK Thurman, probably not get the Floyd fight, then take against a light hitting 140/147 pound fighter.

Why would Khan want to fight Thurman?

Thurman thinks he's got an advantage against Khan because of his power. Targeting Khan makes Thurman look weak.

Thurman's record is awful compared to Khan's. He should stop trying to find an easy way to the top and build his record up like khan did.

Khan is worthy of far more respect than the unproven Thurman.

Horse wrote:

BAD INTENTIONS wrote:Thurman is saying that if you guys think Khan is next in line, let me fight him and show you that he isn't. What's wrong with that?

I think that's actually what boxing needs. Unfortunately, Khan will DUCK Thurman, probably not get the Floyd fight, then take against a light hitting 140/147 pound fighter.

Why would Khan want to fight Thurman?

Thurman thinks he's got an advantage against Khan because of his power. Targeting Khan makes Thurman look weak.

Thurman's record is awful compared to Khan's. He should stop trying to find an easy way to the top and build his record up like khan did.

Khan is worthy of far more respect than the unproven Thurman.

That would be the perfect opportunity for Khan to prove how unproven Thurman is if you're so sure he's all that.

KBB wrote:That would be the perfect opportunity for Khan to prove how unproven Thurman is if you're so sure he's all that.

Why would Khan want to fight a guy with a lot of power when Khan's chin is by far his biggest weakness? Why fight Thurman when there are many better options?

Thurman targeting Khan because he has an advantage is very sad. Why target Khan when there are a lot of good opponents for him at welterweight?

Horse wrote:

KBB wrote:That would be the perfect opportunity for Khan to prove how unproven Thurman is if you're so sure he's all that.

Why would Khan want to fight a guy with a lot of power when Khan's chin is by far his biggest weakness? Why fight Thurman when there are many better options?

Thurman targeting Khan because he has an advantage is very sad. Why target Khan when there are a lot of good opponents for him at welterweight?

All come on Horse, you're a boxing fan and should know the answer to that question! Every fighter has some type of advantage over another in some way (usually) but Thurman should target him and take him down so that he is the next in line for a shot at one of the champions.

This is boxing and that is what they are supposed to do. Sure there are good opponents that present a lesser risk and possibly a higher reward for either of them but it is clear that these two fighters will become the keyholders to the championship in the future as long as they both keep winning.

JMM, Bradley, Manny and Floyd will be gone soon and all that'll be left is Brook, Porter, Thurman, Maidana and Khan. Hopefully we'll get to see all of these guys mix it up with one another. Don't feel sorry for Khan because he has no beard, this is boxing.

Horse wrote:

KBB wrote:That would be the perfect opportunity for Khan to prove how unproven Thurman is if you're so sure he's all that.

Why would Khan want to fight a guy with a lot of power when Khan's chin is by far his biggest weakness? Why fight Thurman when there are many better options?

Thurman targeting Khan because he has an advantage is very sad. Why target Khan when there are a lot of good opponents for him at welterweight?

Horse wrote:

KBB wrote:That would be the perfect opportunity for Khan to prove how unproven Thurman is if you're so sure he's all that.

Why would Khan want to fight a guy with a lot of power when Khan's chin is by far his biggest weakness? Why fight Thurman when there are many better options?

Thurman targeting Khan because he has an advantage is very sad. Why target Khan when there are a lot of good opponents for him at welterweight?

This is stupidity.

The only reason Thurman is targeting Khan is because people are pushing Khan/Floyd and Thurman wants the Floyd fight. If people were a bit more sensible, then Thurman would be targeting whoever they're trying to put in front of Mayweather.

It's not personal, it's strictly business.

KBB wrote:Khan has one so-so ish performance vs a limited Alexander and already we have people here saying how much he's improved (other than his balance I don't see much else) ...

i don't know how someone can not see the
significant tactical changes he made especially
against a fighter he could control.

BAD INTENTIONS wrote:It's not personal, it's strictly business.

That quote can be said about any fighter making any fight.... Its no surprise that you defend Thurman with that line but moan none stop about the idea of Khan calling out Floyd.

i think khan is more difficult for floyd. having
said that thurman-khan would be a terrific fight.

my best case would be: floyd faces pac, the winner
faces the winner of khan-thurman. can't see how
this could be boring ...

man wrote:i think khan is more difficult for floyd. having
said that thurman-khan would be a terrific fight.

my best case would be: floyd faces pac, the winner
faces the winner of khan-thurman. can't see how
this could be boring ...

Bradley vs Khan is a better eliminator for Mayweather.

Thurman should be aiming for Maidana or Porter.

Thurman/Maidana seems like a stupidly obvious fight to make at this point. It will be a shame if we don't get it.

Sadly Tim Bradley has seemingly exhausted the stable of welterweights that TR has at its disposal. I'd love to see something like Bradley/Guerrero but I think the Arum/Heymon divide will prevent this from happening.

fergusg wrote:Tim Bradley will never be given the opportunity to fight Amir Khan (i.e. Haymon + Top Rank/HBO = NO FIGHT!).

Why not? What is all of this political nonsense and why should it it really stop big fights getting made?

fergusg wrote: • Contests between second-tier fighters, whereby the promotion rights have been won via purse bids (much akin to the Vasyl Lomachenko-Gary Russell Jr. situation, whereby Stephen Espinoza [Showtime] actually banned Bob Arum [Top Rank] from attending conference calls promoting the bout)

Even in cases like this we are sometimes seeing one party just flat out turn the fight down. Quillin/Korobov for example.

man wrote:

KBB wrote:Khan has one so-so ish performance vs a limited Alexander and already we have people here saying how much he's improved (other than his balance I don't see much else) ...

i don't know how someone can not see the
significant tactical changes he made especially
against a fighter he could control.

What significant tactical changes did he make? You guys are using Devon as a measuring stick to gauge these so called "changes" he made but I won't say that for certain or with surety until I see him do those things against the likes of Garcia or Peterson in a rematch and then we'll really be able to tell if he did improve.

For now, he has faced a fighter who did nothing, absolutely nothing different the entire bout; Alexander is a very basic boxer, he made no NO adjustments and to use how he fought as a barometer to try and prove that because you have been fooled into believing Amir has improved and that so called improvement will put him over the top/give him an advantage vs Mayweather (who routinely adjusts) is just foolery IMHO.

If it makes you feel good to say that he's improved based on that performance then by all means, go ahead but I won't.

Let him rematch Garcia and do that then I'll get onboard.

Thurman kills Khan in the ring. Khan runs and pitter patters with them quick hands. I think he seem like a nice kid, but the british muslim don't impress me none.
he don't want to get hit and he don't trade. Thurman would stop him easy.

Khan seems to think he is on equal footing with both Floyd and Manny as far as popularity, and will never set foot in the ring with Thurman anytime soon.

Badhusker wrote:Khan seems to think he is on equal footing with both Floyd and Manny as far as popularity, and will never set foot in the ring with Thurman anytime soon.

For "Boxing Fans", you guys really are clueless.

The ultimate aim for these guys is to make the big money without getting brain damage.

Is Amir Khan on equal footing with Mayweather and Pac? No

Is Amir Khan on equal footing with the opponents who Mayweather and Pac faced? Yes.

End of discussion

observer1 wrote:

Badhusker wrote:Khan seems to think he is on equal footing with both Floyd and Manny as far as popularity, and will never set foot in the ring with Thurman anytime soon.

For "Boxing Fans", you guys really are clueless.

The ultimate aim for these guys is to make the big money without getting brain damage.

Is Amir Khan on equal footing with Mayweather and Pac? No

Is Amir Khan on equal footing with the opponents who Mayweather and Pac faced? Yes.

End of discussion

Thank you Captain Obvious. None of us knew that making big money without getting brain damage was the goal.

Khan screwed himself for being scared to fight Alexander last year, plain and simple. Now he is begging, pleading, over, and over, and over ,and over, and over, and over, and over, and over.....that he deserves a Floyd fight, and if not a Manny Pacquiao fight. Why didn't he fight the guy that just beat Alexander to get some more credibility? Not that smart? Too risky? His ego is much bigger than his accomplishments at welterweight, and most see it clearly. He stands in line with a bunch of guys from 140 to 154 that want the sweepstakes. Maybe he should just move up to 154.

observer1 wrote:

Badhusker wrote:Khan seems to think he is on equal footing with both Floyd and Manny as far as popularity, and will never set foot in the ring with Thurman anytime soon.

For "Boxing Fans", you guys really are clueless.

The ultimate aim for these guys is to make the big money without getting brain damage.

Is Amir Khan on equal footing with Mayweather and Pac? No

Is Amir Khan on equal footing with the opponents who Mayweather and Pac faced? Yes.

End of discussion

NO!! JMM is miles above anyone that Amir has faced!!

So let me get this right ...

Let's say there's a champion and the #1 and #2 contender. The number #2 contender says that he wants to beat the #1 contender to prove he is the real challenge for the champion. The #2 contender is a coward and idiot for that?

The funny thing is that in this scenario, everyone is pushing Khan but he isn't even top 10 at 140/147.