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Re: Whats The Hold Up On Making "The Fight"
Posted: 30 Dec 2014, 10:48
by KBB
Ricky_ wrote:JeanClaude Van Damme wrote:The winner deserves the bigger purse.
Stop being a bunch of friggin' fairies.
It's not the purse that's the issue. It's Floyd thinking that he's the main man in the promotional business because Goldenboy Promotions & Showtime have let him off the leash a little in terms of being more involved in the business side of the promotion, cherry picking his opponents, who then scoop about $2m max while Floyd takes him his $30m guarantee.
Every other fighter in the sport just signs contracts, lets' the promoters promote, and at most they negotiate what split they get of the purse.
I think we need to accept that Floyd prefers his current arrangement of cherry picking no-hopers and getting his $30m while they go home with $1m, rather than "demoting himself" back to simply fighter status, while Arum & Top Rank handle the promotion.
Expect to see Floyd vs Khan in the summer.
You're as dumb as Bnovelist and belongs in the same group as the rest of them. I posted the latest of what's going on with this and yet you come back with this nonsense that has no bearing whatsoever on this bout.
Manny ducked in 2010 and now we have both of them agreeing to everything; purse split, ppv, testing, rematch clauses and whatever else and all they are waiting for is the funding to be approved which has absolutely nothing to do with Mayweather and still you come back and say some simpleminded BS.
What else can one expect from a Simpleton though??

Re: Whats The Hold Up On Making "The Fight"
Posted: 30 Dec 2014, 10:56
by Ricky_
shutup Brut, nobody cares what you post

Re: Whats The Hold Up On Making "The Fight"
Posted: 30 Dec 2014, 11:05
by JeanClaude Van Damme
Ricky_ wrote:JeanClaude Van Damme wrote:The winner deserves the bigger purse.
Stop being a bunch of friggin' fairies.
It's not the purse that's the issue. It's Floyd thinking that he's the main man in the promotional business because Goldenboy Promotions & Showtime have let him off the leash a little in terms of being more involved in the business side of the promotion, cherry picking his opponents, who then scoop about $2m max while Floyd takes him his $30m guarantee.
Every other fighter in the sport just signs contracts, lets' the promoters promote, and at most they negotiate what split they get of the purse.
I think we need to accept that Floyd prefers his current arrangement of cherry picking no-hopers and getting his $30m while they go home with $1m, rather than "demoting himself" back to simply fighter status, while Arum & Top Rank handle the promotion.
Expect to see Floyd vs Khan in the summer.
Haymon's chunk of Floyd's $30-40m has to be considerable if he's willing to act like such an idiot about it.
Re: Whats The Hold Up On Making "The Fight"
Posted: 30 Dec 2014, 15:25
by KBB
JeanClaude Van Damme wrote:Haymon's chunk of Floyd's $30-40m has to be considerable if he's willing to act like such an idiot about it.
Haymon doesn't get a chunk of Floyd's residual, he takes his off the top and gives him a check for the remainder.

Re: Whats The Hold Up On Making "The Fight"
Posted: 30 Dec 2014, 18:23
by KBB
Update:
Fight Hype.com was recently contacted by a representative of Franklin "Jeng" Gacal, long-time Filipino lawyer and Chief of Staff for Filipino Congressman Manny Pacquiao, who was looking to set up a face-to-face meeting with undefeated pound-for-pound king Floyd Mayweather. According to the representative, Gacal is going to be in Mayweather's hometown of Las Vegas, Nevada from December 30 to January 3, and wants to speak with him in hopes of gathering evidence to prove that it's Pacquiao's own promoter, Bob Arum, not Mayweather, preventing the mega-fight from happening.
"In Vegas from the 30th-Jan 3rd and would love a chance to sit with MM [Money Mayweather] and bring the truth back to MP [Manny Pacquiao], so MP will know it has been Koncz and Bob blocking all along," the representative wrote in a recent email sent to Fight Hype.com. Of course, this wouldn't be the first time that Gacal has tried to convince Pacquiao that Arum is standing in the way of him getting the fight he truly wants. Earlier this year, several months prior to Pacquiao signing a 2-year extension with Top Rank, Gacal publicly urged the Hall of Fame promoter to release the 8-division world champion from his contract to allow him to make history by fighting Mayweather.
"If that is his condition and if Manny agrees, and it looks like Manny will agree to fight Floyd, the only wa) is no renewal of any contract with Bob Arum. Manny should be a freelancer for the fight to be set. History is waiting and Bob should free Manny. That would be Bob's greatest contribution to boxing history," Gacal explained to Edwin Espejo of Rappler.com back in January. "For this fight, Arum should not be involved. That is the only way for the fight to happen. Everybody wants the fight. Bob should give way if that is the only way. That is the advice I can give to Manny for now."
At the time, Gacal also questioned if Pacquiao's advisor, Michael Koncz, had his best interest in mind when it came time to extend his contract. "The current contract [between Top Rank and Pacquiao] was never shown to me. Mike [Koncz] hid it from me. He did not show the contract to me. He did not inform me. I told Mike, you know that it is for the best interest of Manny that no contract should be signed for the moment because apparently that is what Floyd wants or his condition," Gacal continued in the interview. "Mike looks up to Bob Arum when Pacquiao is done with boxing. When Pacquiao is done, who is he? So he has to maintain his good relations with Bob Arum."
It seems that nearly a year later, Gacal's opinions of Koncz and Arum have not changed very much. Some of you may be wondering why Gacal would have his people reach out to Fight Hype.com. We can only assume that he believed our close ties to Mayweather, who is extremely difficult to reach for most, might get him the meeting he was hoping for. We can confirm, however, that we weren't the only ones that Gacal reached out to, as Pacquiao's former Stength & Conditioning Coach, Alex Ariza, who now has ties to Mayweather, was also contacted directly by Gacal and several other members of Team Pacquiao. Considering that Gacal has been a long-time fixture in Pacquiao's inner circle, one can't help but wonder just how serious Arum really is about wanting to make the mega-fight a reality.
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Re: Whats The Hold Up On Making "The Fight"
Posted: 30 Dec 2014, 18:39
by Ricky_
Stop posting spam.
Re: Whats The Hold Up On Making "The Fight"
Posted: 30 Dec 2014, 18:58
by KBB
Ricky_ wrote:Stop posting spam.
Hey FYI Mr. Dumb Ass, the SPAM generator on this website automatically changes the URL for the website mentioned but it isn't spam, too bad only an idiot like you assumed that.
Re: Whats The Hold Up On Making "The Fight"
Posted: 31 Dec 2014, 10:28
by Ricky_
KBB wrote:Ricky_ wrote:Stop posting spam.
Hey FYI Mr. Dumb Ass, the SPAM generator on this website automatically changes the URL for the website mentioned but it isn't spam, too bad only an idiot like you assumed that.
Shutup Brut and stop spamming
Re: Whats The Hold Up On Making "The Fight"
Posted: 02 Jan 2015, 11:20
by Rodian
Floyd likely pricing himself way out. Pac camp has been going back and forth trying to negotiate down from Floyd's likely unreasonable demand.
http://www.abs-cbnnews.com/sports/01/02 ... ffer-floyd
seems they have been going back and forth and Team Pac at this point is trying to get it down to a reasonable split.
The fight date is effing secondary to the money and anyone making a big deal about May 2 is a clown.
Re: Whats The Hold Up On Making "The Fight"
Posted: 02 Jan 2015, 13:11
by ReggieDiggs
Rodian wrote:Floyd likely pricing himself way out. Pac camp has been going back and forth trying to negotiate down from Floyd's likely unreasonable demand.
http://www.abs-cbnnews.com/sports/01/02 ... ffer-floyd
seems they have been going back and forth and Team Pac at this point is trying to get it down to a reasonable split.
The fight date is effing secondary to the money and anyone making a big deal about May 2 is a clown.
Until this fight gets made I assume Bob & Michael are blowing smoke up boxing fans asses to ultimately lay blame on Al, Floyd & Mayweather Promotions. All the info seems to be coming from Bob's side anytime there are "talks" going on. I suspect we'll be seeing a video in a few days where Floyd is saying "what talks".
Having said that Bob is a huge piece of sh!t. I hope he gets ball cancer, goes to fly to Switzerland or some other random country working on progressive treatment & that plane crashes & his body lands on the JFK highway & he proceeds to get ran over hundreds of times til all that is left is his cancerous balls. A north korean spy is there during the incident & quickly picks up Arum's balls & pockets them. He flys back to north korea, balls in hand & Kim Jung Un eats Arum's cancer balls after his success with the dolphin army-north korean peace accord discussions.
Re: Whats The Hold Up On Making "The Fight"
Posted: 02 Jan 2015, 14:01
by KBB
Posting up half-witted articles from ABC means nothing because it is only coming from one side, furthermore the hold up isn't with Mayweather, it's about the investors and whether or not Showtime wants to honor the wrongfully tweeted information that Stephen Espinoza stated on his Twitter account which is why he has been issued a "Gag" order not to talk about the negotiations.
Arum has gone on record trying to kill the May 2nd date and still we have people here blaming Floyd because here's Bob's bottom line; he doesn't want this fight to compete with the Canelo vs Cotto bout...................why? Because Arum wants to get paid from both fights, if they are competing then only one will make huge $$$ and the other won't and he is afraid that he won't get paid enough from the Cotto vs Canelo fight.
Arum doesn't give a damn about Cinco de Mayo or whether or not a Mexican fights on that date, Oscar and him started this campaign when they hooked back up to oust Floyd from doing his biggest PPV numbers on that date (Mayweather has consistently fought on that holiday for the past few years).
The Canelo vs Cotto is a cross promotion and both DLH and Bob will get paid if their fighters go at it, why would Arum want two of his fighters to compete on the same date when he knows he won't get paid going up against Floyd vs Manny??
It's time some of you Manny fans see the light (I know most won't) and stop posting out of your dislike/Hate for Mayweather and see who is the real culprit holding up this fight.
Re: Whats The Hold Up On Making "The Fight"
Posted: 02 Jan 2015, 15:44
by ReggieDiggs
KBB wrote:Posting up half-witted articles from ABC means nothing because it is only coming from one side, furthermore the hold up isn't with Mayweather, it's about the investors and whether or not Showtime wants to honor the wrongfully tweeted information that Stephen Espinoza stated on his Twitter account which is why he has been issued a "Gag" order not to talk about the negotiations.
Arum has gone on record trying to kill the May 2nd date and still we have people here blaming Floyd because here's Bob's bottom line; he doesn't want this fight to compete with the Canelo vs Cotto bout...................why? Because Arum wants to get paid from both fights, if they are competing then only one will make huge $$$ and the other won't and he is afraid that he won't get paid enough from the Cotto vs Canelo fight.
Arum doesn't give a damn about Cinco de Mayo or whether or not a Mexican fights on that date, Oscar and him started this campaign when they hooked back up to oust Floyd from doing his biggest PPV numbers on that date (Mayweather has consistently fought on that holiday for the past few years).
The Canelo vs Cotto is a cross promotion and both DLH and Bob will get paid if their fighters go at it, why would Arum want two of his fighters to compete on the same date when he knows he won't get paid going up against Floyd vs Manny??
It's time some of you Manny fans see the light (I know most won't) and stop posting out of your dislike/Hate for Mayweather and see who is the real culprit holding up this fight.
Oh sh!t some more logic in this thread. In before "yo mama" insults as there isn't much of a defense against the logic of this situation that doesn't make Bob look like a manipulative piece of sh!t & everyone knows he's just a nice old man trying to make it in boxing unlike that 147lb bad black guy whos obviously is an undercover criminal mastermind who somehow became the biggest name in the sport despite fighting almost all cans.
Re: Whats The Hold Up On Making "The Fight"
Posted: 02 Jan 2015, 22:34
by Badhusker

Ricky and Roidian,
Y'all see the movie Dumb and Dumber? I think you should hook up and see the sequel.