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Re: World Top 30 P4P January 2015

Posted: 12 Jan 2015, 05:56
by Horse
ikorolev wrote:Or in other words, it is a horse poo :lol: :lol: :lol:
No.

Re: World Top 30 P4P January 2015

Posted: 12 Jan 2015, 13:09
by mullenman
Amir Khan has schooled two past word champions last year,,,,

he has to be in the top 30

Re: World Top 30 P4P January 2015

Posted: 12 Jan 2015, 13:19
by Chepppaaa
mullenman wrote:Amir Khan has schooled two past word champions last year,,,,

he has to be in the top 30

amir kahn is an overrated chinnles chump.....devon the fu&/)k alexander, luis collazo haahaha...danny garcia maybe should not be in the p4p top 30 and he kod him.

there are to many boxer who i would favour over amir and deserve more to be in a p4p top 30. thurman, brook, porter, danny, matthysse, maidana, provodnikov just to name some.....

Re: World Top 30 P4P January 2015

Posted: 12 Jan 2015, 13:43
by KBB
mullenman wrote:Amir Khan has schooled two past word champions last year,,,,

he has to be in the top 30

He's also been KO'd by a smaller guy and beaten by another.

Re: World Top 30 P4P January 2015

Posted: 12 Jan 2015, 14:31
by Ettt9350
Horse wrote:
Ettt9350 wrote:Putting Carl Froch above Andre Ward is embarrassing.
The last three years:

Ward - Dawson & Rodriguez.
Froch - Bute, Mack, Kessler, Groves & Groves.

Froch has done significantly more in the last three years.
Last 3 years and 1 month :

Ward - Beat Froch, Dawson, Rodriguez.
Froch - Lost to Ward, Beat Bute, Mack, Kessler, Groves x 2.

In my opinion Dawson and Rodriguez are both better than Bute, Mack, shot Kessler and domestic level Groves.

Re: World Top 30 P4P January 2015

Posted: 12 Jan 2015, 14:43
by mullenman
Chepppaaa wrote:
mullenman wrote:Amir Khan has schooled two past word champions last year,,,,

he has to be in the top 30

amir kahn is an overrated chinnles chump.....devon the fu&/)k alexander, luis collazo haahaha...danny garcia maybe should not be in the p4p top 30 and he kod him.

there are to many boxer who i would favour over amir and deserve more to be in a p4p top 30. thurman, brook, porter, danny, matthysse, maidana, provodnikov just to name some.....

Thurmans last fight was a stink fest and he has not beaten anybody of note yet
Brook is good but has really only beaten Porter
Porter was in a close fight with alexander who KING KHAN brought to school
Danny has been fighting school boys the last year
matthysse is good but gets beat when he steps up
Maidana is the most over rated boxer on the planet and his only good win was against fat lad broner
provodnikov got beat by feather fists Algieri

apart from that good post lad

Re: World Top 30 P4P January 2015

Posted: 12 Jan 2015, 15:39
by HyacinthusTurnipseed
Ettt9350 wrote:
Horse wrote:
Ettt9350 wrote:Putting Carl Froch above Andre Ward is embarrassing.
The last three years:

Ward - Dawson & Rodriguez.
Froch - Bute, Mack, Kessler, Groves & Groves.

Froch has done significantly more in the last three years.
Last 3 years and 1 month :

Ward - Beat Froch, Dawson, Rodriguez.
Froch - Lost to Ward, Beat Bute, Mack, Kessler, Groves x 2.

In my opinion Dawson and Rodriguez are both better than Bute, Mack, shot Kessler and domestic level Groves.
That's a bit skewed. Kessler, while not 100% what he was, was hardly shot - even gave Froch a hard fight of it as I remember. Plus you don't mention the condition that Dawson was in going into their fight. And I don't see what makes Rodriguez better than Groves, other than maybe chin. Maybe.

However someone deals with a fighter's inactivity in their p4p lists is bound to be arbitrary whatever they do. While most either have a 12 month cut off point or just ignore it and rank them as if they were still fighting, that is in itself no less arbitrary than Horse's method of moving them down the list piecemeal until they fight again.

Nobody is uninformed enough to think that Froch is actually better than Ward. It is just about how you deal with the inactivity.

Re: World Top 30 P4P January 2015

Posted: 18 Jan 2015, 00:30
by Chepppaaa
mullenman wrote:
Chepppaaa wrote:
mullenman wrote:Amir Khan has schooled two past word champions last year,,,,

he has to be in the top 30

amir kahn is an overrated chinnles chump.....devon the fu&/)k alexander, luis collazo haahaha...danny garcia maybe should not be in the p4p top 30 and he kod him.

there are to many boxer who i would favour over amir and deserve more to be in a p4p top 30. thurman, brook, porter, danny, matthysse, maidana, provodnikov just to name some.....

Thurmans last fight was a stink fest and he has not beaten anybody of note yet
Brook is good but has really only beaten Porter
Porter was in a close fight with alexander who KING KHAN brought to school
Danny has been fighting school boys the last year
matthysse is good but gets beat when he steps up
Maidana is the most over rated boxer on the planet and his only good win was against fat lad broner
provodnikov got beat by feather fists Algieri

apart from that good post lad

yet they would all crash amir