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Re: Lance Pugmire with huge news on Mayweather-Pacquiao.
Posted: 12 Jan 2015, 17:11
by eastezrider
ReggieDiggs wrote:...customary cinco de mayweather date & that likely affects his buys cuz some cats will be spending their money on Saul vs Miguel instead of Floyd vs Amir or whoever.
yeah... but...
![[icon_e_biggrin.gif] :D](./images/smilies/icon_e_biggrin.gif)
No, seriously, I understand wot you are saying, and yes, "some gatos" will buy the Alverez v Cotto fight if they do indeed go for that date... (Cinco de Mayo is actually on Martes that week*...) but the actuality of it is that it will "hurt" the Alverez v Cotto "buys" WAY more than the other way around... but, that's just my opinion... I think also that the Brit's and the Abu Dabi's are bat crap crazy about Khan right now and Floyd should strike whilst that iron is hot... and stoking the fire on the Pacquiao debate a bit more... I like Saul, he's a good kid, and Cotto appears to have caught Martinez after a three day drunk or something, but anyone that tells/advises them they can go head to head with a Mayweather bout @MGM is guilty of malpractice / professional incompetence... again... my opinions only... and that and $2.48 will get you a "tall skinny blonde" @starbucks... sans tip...
*which ever day "Cinco de Mayo" falls on, Chili's will still offer "frozen margarita specials"...

Re: Lance Pugmire with huge news on Mayweather-Pacquiao.
Posted: 12 Jan 2015, 17:23
by ReggieDiggs
eastezrider wrote:ReggieDiggs wrote:...customary cinco de mayweather date & that likely affects his buys cuz some cats will be spending their money on Saul vs Miguel instead of Floyd vs Amir or whoever.
yeah... but...
![[icon_e_biggrin.gif] :D](./images/smilies/icon_e_biggrin.gif)
No, seriously, I understand wot you are saying, and yes, "some gatos" will buy the Alverez v Cotto fight if they do indeed go for that date... (Cinco de Mayo is actually on Martes that week*...)
but the actuality of it is that it will "hurt" the Alverez v Cotto "buys" WAY more than the other way around... but, that's just my opinion... I think also that the Brit's and the Abu Dabi's are bat crap crazy about Khan right now and Floyd should strike whilst that iron is hot... and stoking the fire on the Pacquiao debate a bit more... I like Saul, he's a good kid, and Cotto appears to have caught Martinez after a three day drunk or something, but anyone that tells/advises them they can go head to head with a Mayweather bout @MGM is guilty of malpractice / professional incompetence... again... my opinions only... and that and $2.48 will get you a "tall skinny blonde" @starbucks... sans tip...
*which ever day "Cinco de Mayo" falls on, Chili's will still offer "frozen margarita specials"...

Well yea both sides battling each other is gonna have some affect on the other, BUT I disagree with the bolded. And the reason being is expectations. Saul vs Miguel is considered a success if they do lets say 400k+ buys, Floyd fights aren't considered success unless they surpass 1M+ buys. Plus the general opinion is Miguel vs Saul is a more competitive fight then Floyd vs Amir so they will be getting more of the cats who just wanna see the best fight.
I think Saul gives no f#cks about the head to head angle even if Floyd & Manny fought. He's a ballsy ginger mfer. I do think Oscar talks him down if the fight is Floyd vs Manny, but I suspect we'll be saying a game of chicken over that date if its not Floyd vs Manny for better or worse for whoever.
Re: Lance Pugmire with huge news on Mayweather-Pacquiao.
Posted: 12 Jan 2015, 19:22
by FloydtheDuck
How stupid you sound, first you say that "that eliminates anyone from having complete bargaining power" and then you turn around and contradict yourself by saying "Floyd obviously deserves more at the present".
This is why you Pacquiao fans continually miss the mark; one is saying contradictory stuff like you are and the other (Montreal) is just plain retarded and stupid on top of that.
Nothing sounds as dumb as a grown man trying to make sense out of quoting an athlete who might very well be borderline retarded
You lost any credibility when you said "A Side", we get it you like Floyd and probably tattoo everything that he says on your forehead
But just because the bargaining power is even doesn't mean the salary purse should be even
What's so difficult to comprehend
They both need each other.
cotto might command more money than most anyone at 154 -160 but that doesn't mean he holds any power. Or to use your boys lingo " the A side"
Re: Lance Pugmire with huge news on Mayweather-Pacquiao.
Posted: 12 Jan 2015, 20:14
by montrealsuper
Pac transcends the sport. Floyd does not. In actuality both should split the pot 50-50. But Floyd has a bigger mouth and Pacquiao is too humble and respectful to assert himself with this A side B side BS. Pac is the most famous, beloved popular fighter on the planet. Floyd is just a star created and protected by the establishment which is not ready to risk him to losing yet. But the fight is now so big, it's reached the breaking point. No one cares to see Floyd against anyone except Pacquiao. It's time to sacrifice Floyd and that's what will be done.
Re: Lance Pugmire with huge news on Mayweather-Pacquiao.
Posted: 13 Jan 2015, 05:50
by eastezrider
ReggieDiggs wrote:eastezrider wrote:ReggieDiggs wrote:...customary cinco de mayweather date & that likely affects his buys cuz some cats will be spending their money on Saul vs Miguel instead of Floyd vs Amir or whoever.
yeah... but...
![[icon_e_biggrin.gif] :D](./images/smilies/icon_e_biggrin.gif)
No, seriously, I understand wot you are saying, and yes, "some gatos" will buy the Alverez v Cotto fight if they do indeed go for that date... (Cinco de Mayo is actually on Martes that week*...)
but the actuality of it is that it will "hurt" the Alverez v Cotto "buys" WAY more than the other way around... but, that's just my opinion... I think also that the Brit's and the Abu Dabi's are bat crap crazy about Khan right now and Floyd should strike whilst that iron is hot... and stoking the fire on the Pacquiao debate a bit more... I like Saul, he's a good kid, and Cotto appears to have caught Martinez after a three day drunk or something, but anyone that tells/advises them they can go head to head with a Mayweather bout @MGM is guilty of malpractice / professional incompetence... again... my opinions only... and that and $2.48 will get you a "tall skinny blonde" @starbucks... sans tip...
*which ever day "Cinco de Mayo" falls on, Chili's will still offer "frozen margarita specials"...

Well yea both sides battling each other is gonna have some affect on the other, BUT I disagree with the bolded. And the reason being is expectations. Saul vs Miguel is considered a success if they do lets say 400k+ buys, Floyd fights aren't considered success unless they surpass 1M+ buys. Plus the general opinion is Miguel vs Saul is a more competitive fight then Floyd vs Amir so they will be getting more of the cats who just wanna see the best fight.
I think Saul gives no f#cks about the head to head angle even if Floyd & Manny fought. He's a ballsy ginger mfer. I do think Oscar talks him down if the fight is Floyd vs Manny, but I suspect we'll be saying a game of chicken over that date if its not Floyd vs Manny for better or worse for whoever.
Well... I think that Canelo does gives "some" fucks about the head2head as he's doing a bit of promotions himself... so... if he's got a business "side" then... hopefully he see's that... anyways, Canelo vs Cotto is a good fight and one I'd hate to have to decide which to watch. I think that Mayweather vs Khan is a bit more interesting to watch. Floyd is a damn good "boxer" and is the "man to beat" at the moment, so everyone brings their "A" gameplan, even if they aren't the "A" side... and one more time for the guys up in the cheap seats...
the Brit's and the Abu Dabi's are bat crap crazy about Khan right now and Floyd should strike whilst that iron is hot...
Like I said earlier, I like Canelo, his fight with Angulo was my FOTY, as it left me with the strongest memory just for the shear brutality. Canelo coulda left the ring, gone out and pulled one of the sinks off of the Men's bathroom wall, and brought it back into the ring and hit El Perro with it, and that fornicator still would not have gone down... Angulo tough 'hombre no doubt. Anyways, watched the weigh in with Cotto vs Martinez, and Martinez could barely get his shoes on afterwards. "Something" wasn't right, overtrained, got a bad shrimp @Applebee's... dunno... "something"... So... again a Canelo vs Cotto is a good fight, I just would rather see Mayweather vs Khan, then possibly... Floyd v Kell,
now there is an interesting fight...
Re: Lance Pugmire with huge news on Mayweather-Pacquiao.
Posted: 13 Jan 2015, 09:30
by benion
Floyd is gonna make his $30-40 mil with or without Pacquiao. Pacquiao doesn't have another PPV worthy fight. Would you but Pacquiao V. Vargas? Floyd can fight Khan, Cotto, Garcia, and they're all PPV worthy. Sure he'll make way more money fighting Pacquiao but Pacquiao needs the fight more because he has no one else to fight. The only possible PPV fight for Pacquiao would be vs. Canelo at a ridiculous catchweight. Bob has to go back to China and get them to finance another Pacquiao.
Re: Lance Pugmire with huge news on Mayweather-Pacquiao.
Posted: 13 Jan 2015, 10:34
by uptconnect
If the fight gets made, which is still a big if, they'll pick the date they want and every other fight steps aside.
Every other fight.
Guaranteed.
Also, no single network would ever put on another huge PPV show to compete with their own huge PPV.
And both networks would be putting this fight on.
Canelo V Cotto would be on HBO PPV correct? I suppose they could do an early or late/before or after card, but otherwise, it would be like opening a McDonalds next door to your McDonalds. Terrible business plan.
That's a future trip to the soup line.
Re: Lance Pugmire with huge news on Mayweather-Pacquiao.
Posted: 13 Jan 2015, 10:48
by MachoTime
It sure is taking a long time to announce "The Fight", What's the hold up.