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Re: Arum: We've signed the contract, waiting on Floyd.
Posted: 14 Jan 2015, 18:49
by ReggieDiggs
BAD INTENTIONS wrote:
I agree with everything else except for that part. Arum is not intelligent at all. He has a stable of fighters who people like so they accept Bob and his BS because he's part of the package. Arum can easily be made to look like a fool in any interview yet no one ever does. He probably has ties to crime or something, because I find it incredibly hard to believe that so few people go to town on such an easy target.
FOR INSTANCE, A LITTLE WHILE BACK WHEN THE FINANCIAL AGENCY WHO WAS HIRED TO LOOK AT MANNY'S FINANCES CAME OUT AND SAID ARUM AND KONCZ ARE ROBBING MANNY, NO ONE SAID poo. NO ONE CARED. THE STORY WENT AWAY IN A FEW DAYS. IT'S (CLOSE TO) A FACT THAT MANNY LIVES IN DEBT TO BOB, YET NO ONE EVER BRINGS IT UP. THEN MANNY QUICKLY SIGNS AN EXTENSION, AFTER SEEING COTTO MAKE HIS BIGGEST PAYDAY AWAY FROM ARUM, AND NO ONE BRINGS THESE THINGS UP.
So, I don't think it's intelligence at all. There seems to be a willing ignorance of Bob Arum's bullshit.
Maybe Bob gots criminal ties idk. I think all (or many of them) the major promoters in the US have been raided by the FBI at one time or another thats how sketchy that business tends to be.
But I don't think Bob is as easily tripped up during interviews. I mean all promoter interviews are fluffish so people being all pet the kitty with Bob is standard of all promoters interviews. And for the most part everyone is fluffy with people in the boxing world outside of those post fight Jim Grey/Larry Merchant type cats who only talk sh!t cuz they get paid for it plus they got cameras on them the whole time for a lawsuit if sh!t should go afoul.
Bob is clearly a smart mfer. He's been the premier guy or a top guy for decades. You don't do that without being the smartest mfer in the room. You are far too biased if you don't think Bob is an incredible puppet master with his org & the people around him.
And I contend Koncz is undercover working for Bob to influence Manny today as we speak & that debt issue you bring up is one of the reasons why I believe that. The most notable thing that will tell you this eventually is once Manny is running the Philippines Koncz will be working some sweet job for TR directly. You can also tell how good Bob is at his job that no one talks about that thing. And every time Bob opens his mouth about anything Floyd related its like it came from the mouth of God & could never be a lie.
Re: Arum: We've signed the contract, waiting on Floyd.
Posted: 14 Jan 2015, 22:49
by KBB
Rodian wrote:KBB wrote:
Then again you're just talking about Pacquiao fans and we know that the vast majority of them are not very intelligent in the first place so why should anyone expect them to understand or say something about it.
I'm sure on average they all have a higher IQ than the average Mayweather fan. most of them are
asian, after all.
Not only are PacTURDS dumb and moronic but apparently they are bigoted racists.
Re: Arum: We've signed the contract, waiting on Floyd.
Posted: 15 Jan 2015, 02:26
by man
BAD INTENTIONS wrote:Why do people believe Arum more than they do Floyd?
bob arum is nothing but a promoter. his only
real interest is making money from fights, the
bigger the better.
counter question. why (on earth) would anyone
believe
anything floyd mayweather says?
because he is a man of truth and honor and
has been running around for years declaring
to everyone who wants to hear it how much
he wants to fight manny pacquiao?
Re: Arum: We've signed the contract, waiting on Floyd.
Posted: 15 Jan 2015, 02:32
by man
KBB wrote:Rodian wrote:KBB wrote:
Then again you're just talking about Pacquiao fans and we know that the vast majority of them are not very intelligent in the first place so why should anyone expect them to understand or say something about it.
I'm sure on average they all have a higher IQ than the average Mayweather fan. most of them are
asian, after all.
Not only are PacTURDS dumb and moronic but apparently they are bigoted racists.
floyd had a guy doing a documentary about him
and his, ahem, "life style". showing him around
plenty of hookers and having his kids in the same
film. enough said. who on earth does such a thing.
and for the racist argument. that is so obviously
stupid, it hurts.
Re: Arum: We've signed the contract, waiting on Floyd.
Posted: 15 Jan 2015, 05:14
by ttornado
Re: Arum: We've signed the contract, waiting on Floyd.
Posted: 15 Jan 2015, 06:34
by ReggieDiggs
Thats his publicist. A publicist isn't in a management position. You are way off
Re: Arum: We've signed the contract, waiting on Floyd.
Posted: 15 Jan 2015, 07:06
by ttornado
ReggieDiggs wrote:
Thats his publicist. A publicist isn't in a management position. You are way off
Time was way off, but still nothing to suggest this is more than we've heard before
Re: Arum: We've signed the contract, waiting on Floyd.
Posted: 15 Jan 2015, 18:49
by Badhusker
Rodian wrote:KBB wrote:
Then again you're just talking about Pacquiao fans and we know that the vast majority of them are not very intelligent in the first place so why should anyone expect them to understand or say something about it.
I'm sure on average they all have a higher IQ than the average Mayweather fan. most of them are asian, after all.
iz proper punkchewation and spelling - uzing proper grammer a sine of inteligence?
You must be a mensa member roidian.
Re: Arum: We've signed the contract, waiting on Floyd.
Posted: 15 Jan 2015, 21:15
by ReggieDiggs
fergusg wrote:I find it really intriguing that (by Michael Koncz’ own admission) there’s supposed to be a gag agreement in place, but the media is constantly reporting updates from Team Pacquiao for the contract negotiations that are currently taking place.
We’ve heard nothing from Mayweather, Ellerbe, Haymon et al, but for some reason, Freddie Roach, Manny Pacquiao, Bob Arum etc. have reported that everything has been agreed to, but Floyd just needs to sign the contract.
I have this sneaky suspicion that Team Pacquiao (mainly Bob Arum) are putting a spin on things to suggest that they’ve agreed to all of Floyd’s demands, but we don’t actually know that this is the case. Nor do we know how long Mayweather has been given to mull the contract over or if all stipulations have been discussed or the deadline for him to sign the contract.
Meanwhile, we know that Manny claims to have agreed terms, but do we know for definite that he’s actually signed anything? The press releases have been carefully-worded and appear to exclude this information.
Do we also know if HBO & Showtime have come to an agreement about the joint-PPV venture, because I’ve not read a damn thing to confirm this?
My gut feeling is that this fight doesn’t take place and that Team Pacquiao have either misinformed the media or have put such a biased spin on things, to the point that the information they’ve supplied only contains a miniscule element of truth.
I really do hope I’m mistaken and that everything has already agreed to, which just needs the ink from Floyd’s signature to dry on the contract, before training preparations commence, but unfortunately for me, when I want to be wrong… I’m usually right!
Sam Watson has said its basically a done deal iirc. And we all know Sam is Al Haymon in physical form so I'm actually thinking it amazingly is basically a done deal. He's definitely acknowledged sh!t is happening right now.
Re: Arum: We've signed the contract, waiting on Floyd.
Posted: 16 Jan 2015, 11:57
by KBB
Look I found the Contract they're claiming that Manny signed:
https://bay181.afx.ms/att/GetInline.asp ... oneredir=1
Re: Arum: We've signed the contract, waiting on Floyd.
Posted: 16 Jan 2015, 20:34
by montrealsuper
Floyd doesn't want the fight. But he pretended he does. If he truly wanted the fight he'd be far more aggressive and outspoken about it. He's been silent. Most likely scheming his next escape hatch out of the fight of the century.
