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Re: DeGale opponent for IBF belt April 25th?

Posted: 03 Feb 2015, 22:11
by Tarkus
I would like to see DeGale and Groves both fight Dirrell brothers first. Then they can unify if they both win. That would be massive. And if they dont win, well at least we have seen DeGale vs Andre, which is much better fight for me then DeGale v Groves 2.

Re: DeGale opponent for IBF belt April 25th?

Posted: 04 Feb 2015, 03:42
by mickey1975
wesshaw1985 wrote:how does Dirrell fair against DeGale?

in an ideal world DeGale and Groves go and beat the Dirrell brothers and return with a title a piece for a unification fight at Wembley...
Arena?

Re: DeGale opponent for IBF belt April 25th?

Posted: 04 Feb 2015, 04:20
by ste1983
mickey1975 wrote:
wesshaw1985 wrote:how does Dirrell fair against DeGale?

in an ideal world DeGale and Groves go and beat the Dirrell brothers and return with a title a piece for a unification fight at Wembley...
Arena?
To be fair I think in that situation (unification etc) and with all the expected hype and pre fight antics, it could do a sstadium. Dunno if would be enough to justify Wembley though maybe somewhere to suit around 35-40k.

Re: DeGale opponent for IBF belt April 25th?

Posted: 04 Feb 2015, 04:42
by danamba7
ste1983 wrote:
mickey1975 wrote:
wesshaw1985 wrote:how does Dirrell fair against DeGale?

in an ideal world DeGale and Groves go and beat the Dirrell brothers and return with a title a piece for a unification fight at Wembley...
Arena?
To be fair I think in that situation (unification etc) and with all the expected hype and pre fight antics, it could do a sstadium. Dunno if would be enough to justify Wembley though maybe somewhere to suit around 35-40k.
Would have to be London seen as they're both London boys. (Shame as Villa Park would be good). Can't see it a Stamford coz of the Groves connection. Wembley and Emirates too big. White heart lane would be good but Degales Arsenal apparently. So that would leave Upton Park. Wouldn't a be bad idea considering it's already held Mitchell Katsidis and Haye Chisora and would be about the right size.

Re: DeGale opponent for IBF belt April 25th?

Posted: 04 Feb 2015, 04:50
by Lion-Heart
mickey1975 wrote:
Lion-Heart wrote:DeGale v Ramirez is the most likely, easier fight for Degale, would set up the summer fight against groves at wembley and it means less money for Eddie to lay out but I hope I'm wrong and it is Dirrel

Groves
Smith
Selby
AJ
Chamberlain
Edwards
Davies
Maybe a few more London/South England lads to pad the card out and I can see Hearn making this a PPV
Wembley? DeGale-Groves would not fill it. The O2. It will take something special to fill Wembley again. It's a huge stadium.
Granted not on it's own but if you added fights like Quigg v Galahad,AJ vs Price/Haye it would easily sell wembley plus Groves v Degale could be a unification fight. Hearns booked wembley two times this summer and I reckon he will want to use it atleast once

Re: DeGale opponent for IBF belt April 25th?

Posted: 04 Feb 2015, 05:45
by mickey1975
Lion-Heart wrote:
mickey1975 wrote:
Lion-Heart wrote:DeGale v Ramirez is the most likely, easier fight for Degale, would set up the summer fight against groves at wembley and it means less money for Eddie to lay out but I hope I'm wrong and it is Dirrel

Groves
Smith
Selby
AJ
Chamberlain
Edwards
Davies
Maybe a few more London/South England lads to pad the card out and I can see Hearn making this a PPV
Wembley? DeGale-Groves would not fill it. The O2. It will take something special to fill Wembley again. It's a huge stadium.
Granted not on it's own but if you added fights like Quigg v Galahad,AJ vs Price/Haye it would easily sell wembley plus Groves v Degale could be a unification fight. Hearns booked wembley two times this summer and I reckon he will want to use it atleast once
None of those fights will be made this summer. Michael Watson was Arsenal through and through, but fought Eubank at White Hart Lane. It's London, it doesn't matter where they fight. Football allegiances don't come into it. Neither have the football crowd behind them anyway, only Josh Warrington does in a big way.

Re: DeGale opponent for IBF belt April 25th?

Posted: 04 Feb 2015, 05:53
by freddydoesdallas
I think the football 'connections' of those pair are just an attempt tilo tap into a new fanbase. Marketing more than support.

Both bad clubs to choose anyway

Re: DeGale opponent for IBF belt April 25th?

Posted: 04 Feb 2015, 06:05
by tony1234
I don't see any combination of Groves/Degale/whoever selling enough tickets for a massive show at Wembley Stadium, Froch v Groves 2 was a one off due to all the controversy and hype

Re: DeGale opponent for IBF belt April 25th?

Posted: 04 Feb 2015, 06:15
by lillywhite14
freddydoesdallas wrote:I think the football 'connections' of those pair are just an attempt tilo tap into a new fanbase. Marketing more than support.

Both bad clubs to choose anyway
Toilet clubs. Both seem supporters of convenience too, as you say, attempting to attract a few fans.

Better off aiming for West Ham, the self styled East End hardnut/gangster wannabes would be a better crowd to target :OhYes:
Kevin Mitchell shifted a fair few tickets on the back of that against Katsidis.

Re: DeGale opponent for IBF belt April 25th?

Posted: 04 Feb 2015, 06:20
by mickey1975
lillywhite14 wrote:
freddydoesdallas wrote:I think the football 'connections' of those pair are just an attempt tilo tap into a new fanbase. Marketing more than support.

Both bad clubs to choose anyway
Toilet clubs. Both seem supporters of convenience too, as you say, attempting to attract a few fans.

Better off aiming for West Ham, the self styled East End hardnut/gangster wannabes would be a better crowd to target :OhYes:
Kevin Mitchell shifted a fair few tickets on the back of that against Katsidis.
I think that's why Warrington has tapped in so effectively, he's a genuine fan, always has been, and drops off the tickets himself. He's personally sold 3,000 already for April. Carl Johannesson's uncle was a Leeds legend but he never got the backing.

Re: DeGale opponent for IBF belt April 25th?

Posted: 04 Feb 2015, 06:23
by danamba7
mickey1975 wrote:
lillywhite14 wrote:
freddydoesdallas wrote:I think the football 'connections' of those pair are just an attempt tilo tap into a new fanbase. Marketing more than support.

Both bad clubs to choose anyway
Toilet clubs. Both seem supporters of convenience too, as you say, attempting to attract a few fans.

Better off aiming for West Ham, the self styled East End hardnut/gangster wannabes would be a better crowd to target :OhYes:
Kevin Mitchell shifted a fair few tickets on the back of that against Katsidis.
I think that's why Warrington has tapped in so effectively, he's a genuine fan, always has been, and drops off the tickets himself. He's personally sold 3,000 already for April. Carl Johannesson's uncle was a Leeds legend but he never got the backing.
Tapering off slightly but I've said it before on here. NUFC would be the perfect club to represent in boxing. 1 club city, big club, starved of success. A genuine Newcastle fan could pull huge numbers if promoted in the right way. Is Brad Saunders a Newcastle fan?

Re: DeGale opponent for IBF belt April 25th?

Posted: 04 Feb 2015, 06:36
by freddydoesdallas
I agree about NUFC. All those trying to tap in need to realise though that fans see through bullshit support. A daft as a brush geordie lad would be great for uk boxing.

Re: DeGale opponent for IBF belt April 25th?

Posted: 04 Feb 2015, 06:45
by ste1983
One problem though, most boxing events don't allow you to wear football shirts. Not a problem for most clubs but I'm sure thats all those geordies own :OhYes:

Re: DeGale opponent for IBF belt April 25th?

Posted: 04 Feb 2015, 06:48
by mickey1975
Brad's not even from Newcastle and sounds nothing like a Geordie. Middlesbrough are his nearest decent club.

Re: DeGale opponent for IBF belt April 25th?

Posted: 04 Feb 2015, 07:15
by danamba7
ste1983 wrote:One problem though, most boxing events don't allow you to wear football shirts. Not a problem for most clubs but I'm sure thats all those geordies own :OhYes:
Haha, true!

Re: DeGale opponent for IBF belt April 25th?

Posted: 04 Feb 2015, 10:25
by expe
ste1983 wrote:One problem though, most boxing events don't allow you to wear football shirts. Not a problem for most clubs but I'm sure thats all those geordies own :OhYes:
Great opportunity for the Geordies to go topless, not like they need much encouragement.