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Re: Freddie saying he'd like to see Manny vs Canelo @ 152
Posted: 05 Feb 2015, 18:27
by Badhusker
Floyd didn't demand 152, it was Canelo's team that offered it. Canelo went on record before that publicly stating he would drop to 150 to fight Floyd. I do think Canelo was drained some, but the weight wasn't the reason he lost to Floyd. He was given a boxing lesson by a guy that stood right in front of him.
Pac isn't fighting Canelo at any weight. They are bringing up fights like Pac vs Khan or Pac vs Canelo as ploys to get the negotiations done sooner for Floyd vs Pac.
Re: Freddie saying he'd like to see Manny vs Canelo @ 152
Posted: 05 Feb 2015, 19:45
by Ricky_
Badhusker wrote:Floyd didn't demand 152
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Re: Freddie saying he'd like to see Manny vs Canelo @ 152
Posted: 05 Feb 2015, 20:02
by BAD INTENTIONS
Purse Bid Shakedown wrote:Badhusker wrote:Roach is talking out of his ass, and know there is not a chance it will get made. They wouldn't fight Cotto at 150, so they won't fight Canelo higher than that. Canelo has trouble even making 154 anymore. As each year goes by it will be even harder.
Why doesn't he throw out the same offer to Lara?
Wrong. After Marg Pac said he's done fighting above welter, but after Cotto taunted Pac like "how come Marg gets 150 and not me? Does Pac fear me?", Pac indeed offered 150. Cotto then made excuses about the weight and money offered, and went on to lose to Trout for peanuts and stormed out of the ring
Classic prima donna Cotto. I can't argue with his effort in the ring, which is ALL that matters ... but Cotto seems like a major asshole.
Re: Freddie saying he'd like to see Manny vs Canelo @ 152
Posted: 05 Feb 2015, 20:13
by Badhusker
Purse Bid Shakedown wrote:Badhusker wrote:Roach is talking out of his ass, and know there is not a chance it will get made. They wouldn't fight Cotto at 150, so they won't fight Canelo higher than that. Canelo has trouble even making 154 anymore. As each year goes by it will be even harder.
Why doesn't he throw out the same offer to Lara?
Wrong. After Marg Pac said he's done fighting above welter, but after Cotto taunted Pac like "how come Marg gets 150 and not me? Does Pac fear me?", Pac indeed offered 150. Cotto then made excuses about the weight and money offered, and went on to lose to Trout for peanuts and stormed out of the ring
When did Pac offer 150 to Cotto? As far as I remember, in 2012 he turned it down, and went on to fight Mayweather. Maybe it was after that?
http://www.boxingnews24.com/2012/02/pac ... tto-fight/
Re: Freddie saying he'd like to see Manny vs Canelo @ 152
Posted: 06 Feb 2015, 00:07
by armageto
IKSRTFO wrote:armageto wrote:
Looking at their fights as a whole, I consider Mayweather and Lara better defensive fighters than Pacman. In regards to the original poster who asked if Canelo couldn't land on Mayweather or Lara, why would he on Pacman, Pacman is more willing to engage. Pacman will take more risks on offense. Pacman won't employ the stay on the bike style that Lara did against Canelo. Thus Alvarez has more chances to land on Pacman than he did on Lara or Mayweather. I'm not saying Pacman doesn't have defense when he chooses to employ it, but I just feel Alvarez has a better chance to land on him due to the style matchup.
If Canelo couldn't land on Lara then how was the fight even close? Because Lara failed to land alot on Canelo. Your defense is ineffective if it stops you from being offensive, something Floyd does not have a problem with but Lara does.
We just agree to disagree. It would be interesting what others thought, who has better defense between Lara or Pacman. I think I did answer the original question good though. Alvarez, assuming the fight goes 12 rounds, will land more on Pac than Mayweather/Lara. Even if we can't agree on who is better defensively, style wise Pac should be hit more.
As for the Lara/Canelo fight, a lot of people thought Lara won.......