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evrenb wrote:

x2x wrote:

evrenb wrote:
YAWN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Yeah right, "yawn". This fruit here is the one that was going on about "homophobes". What a collection.

I am actually reporting your homophobic post of a couple of days ago to a moderator. FYI I am not a homosexual. I do abhor racism and homophobia as there is enough hate in this world and people should be able to feel what they feel as long as they act within the law. If you have those feelings then fine, keep them to yourself and we would be none the wiser. Nonetheless you will be reported, but , don't worry you can use one of your other various guises, aliases etc. .

Of course you're not, sweety, and if anyone sounds like they have "other various guises" it's you and your Duce troll Tuan boyfriend.

Yeah right, "yawn". This fruit here is the one that was going on about "homophobes". What a collection.[/quote]

I am actually reporting your homophobic post of a couple of days ago to a moderator. FYI I am not a homosexual. I do abhor racism and homophobia as there is enough hate in this world and people should be able to feel what they feel as long as they act within the law. If you have those feelings then fine, keep them to yourself and we would be none the wiser. Nonetheless you will be reported, but , don't worry you can use one of your other various guises, aliases etc. .[/quote]

Of course you're not, sweety, and if anyone sounds like they have other " guises" it's you and your Duce troll Tuan boyfriend.[/quote]

Another one reported - Im sure your alter ego Caractacus / Brutu / Duce will come to your aid. . .

evrenb wrote: Another one reported - Im sure your alter ego Caractacus / Brutu / Duce will come to your aid. . .

Yeah, nutbag, we're all the same person and we all hide in the corner of your head!

I never even heard of these two jackasses and then they come on here gratuitously attacking me and accusing me of being this or that.

How long would a little stool pigeon like this one last in an institutional environment?

stevedoc wrote:Simply yes , taking away the fact Lennox got KO'd twice by average fighters including rahman just before he fought Tyson who did lewis beat ,Ruddock was probably the best and he had been bashed up twice by Tyson before .
For me Holmes is a level above lewis

funny. i never held these losses against him.
just can happen on top level, someone runs
into a hand. no big deal for me.

Tuan_Jim wrote:I did say he was whacky. He also still believes in the Dundee glove cutting/time buying incident that was proven to be a myth decades ago.

yeah Tuan_Juan(if thats your real name)
"proven a myth",by the self appointented"Boxing Rivisionists'(*maybe)
(none whom of which where there that day or even born when it happened.
You just dont like the fact that it actually may have happened

and I say the word *maybe because even you present day boxing revisioinists arnt going to live forever to suppress the truth of the matter.

Caractacus wrote:

Tuan_Jim wrote:I did say he was whacky. He also still believes in the Dundee glove cutting/time buying incident that was proven to be a myth decades ago.

yeah,by the self appointented"Boxing Rivisionists'(*maybe)
(none whom of which where there that day or even born when it happened.
You just dont like the fact that it actually may have happened

and I say the word *maybe because even you present day boxing revisioinists arnt going to live forever to suppress the truth of the matter.

Why would they do that ?

If you search my old post I wrote word for word the complete transcript for the interval between round 4 and 5 - as it happened and unedited.

and you found it along with all the lost episodes of"Dr.Who","Dads Army,Zed Cars and the early Avenger Police Surgeon episodes(as well as the BBC broadcast of the 1969 Moon landing
that the BBC wiped out in the early 1970's too did you now?

Caractacus wrote:and you found it along with all the lost episodes of"Dr.Who","Dads Army,Zed Cars and the early Avenger Police Surgeon episodes(as well as the BBC broadcast of the 1969 Moon landing
that the BBC wiped out in the early 1970's too did you now?

Yes that is correct...

evrenb wrote:
Why would they do that ?

If you search my old post I wrote word for word the complete transcript for the interval between round 4 and 5 - as it happened and unedited.

and with the ring walks and pre-fight introductions as well?
well.Im mighty impressed that you do have this.
Would you please post the entire BBC live transmission on youtube if you please
(with the programme opening and closing credits too I would hope)

Caractacus wrote:

evrenb wrote:
Why would they do that ?

If you search my old post I wrote word for word the complete transcript for the interval between round 4 and 5 - as it happened and unedited.

and with the ring walks and pre-fight introductions as well?
well.Im mighty impressed that you do have this.
Would you please post the entire BBC live transmission on youtube if you please
(with the programme opening and closing credits too I would hope)

My copy does not have the ring walks...why must it have this to have the entire fight from the opening bell? That doesn't mean anything?

evrenb wrote:

Caractacus wrote:

evrenb wrote:
Why would they do that ?

If you search my old post I wrote word for word the complete transcript for the interval between round 4 and 5 - as it happened and unedited.

and with the ring walks and pre-fight introductions as well?
well.Im mighty impressed that you do have this.
Would you please post the entire BBC live transmission on youtube if you please
(with the programme opening and closing credits too I would hope)

My copy does not have the ring walks...why must it have this to have the entire fight from the opening bell? That doesn't mean anything?

Becaue Im a compleatists,thats why.

My copy does not have the ring walks...why must it have this to have the entire fight from the opening bell? That doesn't mean anything?[/quote]
Becaue Im a compleatists,thats why.[/quote]

Im not entirely sure wht you are talking about. I am confident based on what I have seen, the reports from the Boxing News which done a special investigation on the 'myth' a few years ago. (no I do not have a web link, it was on paper) and various other investigations that the round interval is 1 minute 6 seconds. There was no detection of splicing on the 16mm film.

Caractacus wrote: yeah Tuan_Juan(if thats your real name)
"proven a myth",by the self appointented"Boxing Rivisionists'(*maybe)
(none whom of which where there that day or even born when it happened.
You just dont like the fact that it actually may have happened

and I say the word *maybe because even you present day boxing revisioinists arnt going to live forever to suppress the truth of the matter.

The problem is your hatred of Muhammad Ali is so all-consuming that you couldn't bring yourself to accept the truth even if confronted with it. You need there to have been a controversy, because you're so deeply invested in that version of the story. It's why no one bothers to converse with you on here, other than your fellow racist white trash yahoos. It's the same tedious groove with you, on loop, again and again.

Let's consult a contemporary of Ali, who spent hundreds of hours in his presence:

"The fight [Clay/Cooper] found Angelo Dundee in the middle of an incident that is still misapprehended. . . Cooper banged a high-grade left charge off Clay's jaw, dropping him to the count of two as the bell rang. Unaided, Clay moved back to his corner, where Dundee motioned to the ref to examine a split in Clay's glove. No new glove was produced, no time was lost, yet many ringside believed that Dundee had slit the glove with a razor to give Clay's groggy head time to clear. 'Never happened,' Dundee told the press. It didn't help matters that Clay then carved Cooper into a filet. Accusations of tampering with the outcome spread through the crowd, and that part of the press that disliked Clay later embellished the harmless incident."

Who wrote that paragraph? Some starry eyed Ali mythologiser, like Hauser? One of those 'boxing revisionists', who weren't born at the time? No.

Mark Kram wrote it. Mark Kram, Ali's biggest critic. And it's from page 76 of 'Ghosts of Manlia' (I know when you try to 'debunk myths' you prefer to omit sources for your quotes), a book Kram wrote as a "corrective to the years of stenography that have produced the Ali legend. Cheap myth corruscates the man. . . Who Ali was (and is) has become obscured."

The book is a 200-page character assassination of Ali, and yet even its author - who unlike you, or me, was there, up close & personal throughout the Muhammad Ali era - concedes the ripped glove/extra time story is nonsense.

Reminds me of when allegedly many years ago played the entire Clay/Cooper tape, in real time, to the British press to prove once and for all the added time was a myth. Boxing Monthly wrote about that one.

Still, you backwards imbeciles will cling to your vision of shady US TV execs showing up at BBC Television Centre, demanding access to the tape library so that they can snip the moment of glory of Britain's best loved fighter. 'Certainly, Mr Rosenberg, right this way. Bring your scissors.'