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Re: IS THE TIME RIGHT FOR RIOS TO PICK................
Posted: 09 Feb 2015, 14:08
by beatdown337
KBB wrote:beatdown337 wrote:Why do you think andre berto and Lamont peterson passed 60+ piss tests between them and each failed the only blood test they ever took?
It ain't rocket science. If combat sports could afford to randomly blood test every fighter we wouldn't even have a sport. The large majority of the guys would be suspended. Believe that.
HGH and testosterone are a bigger problem these days than roids. Roid use is small scale. HGH and testosterone use is RAMPANT because it basically doesn't show up in piss tests. Only in blood tests, which are rarely ever administered.
You do realize that testosterone and "roids" in most cases can be the same thing right?[/quote]
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QlBQSO8Ymoc[/quote]
not sure why it said that but my only comment was about the "roids and testosterone comment" the lamont Peterson and berto thing doesn't matter to me lol
Re: IS THE TIME RIGHT FOR RIOS TO PICK................
Posted: 09 Feb 2015, 14:21
by diddy
Peterson failed. I'm not watching that BS video.
VADA wouldn't make up a failed test. What they do
with their blood test is detect all the components that make up someone's testosterone composition - they can determine whether or not it is synthetic or natural with their CIR test. His was synthetic. Hence he failed. Had he gotten a standard crap piss test he would've passed b/c a piss test can't detect the properties of testosterone- it just checks a T/E level to see if it's within an allowable amount - and boxing sets their allowable amount at a ridiculous 6-1 ratio. Normal ratio is 1-1 for most men.
Roids and testosterone are 2 completely different entities. Please educate yourself.
Re: IS THE TIME RIGHT FOR RIOS TO PICK................
Posted: 09 Feb 2015, 18:16
by KBB
diddy wrote:Peterson failed. I'm not watching that BS video.
VADA wouldn't make up a failed test. What they do
with their blood test is detect all the components that make up someone's testosterone composition - they can determine whether or not it is synthetic or natural with their CIR test. His was synthetic. Hence he failed. Had he gotten a standard crap piss test he would've passed b/c a piss test can't detect the properties of testosterone- it just checks a T/E level to see if it's within an allowable amount - and boxing sets their allowable amount at a ridiculous 6-1 ratio. Normal ratio is 1-1 for most men.
Roids and testosterone are 2 completely different entities. Please educate yourself.
I never said they weren't, all I did was posted a video and y'all are getting all sensitive about it.
Re: IS THE TIME RIGHT FOR RIOS TO PICK................
Posted: 10 Feb 2015, 08:36
by Badhusker
diddy wrote:Peterson failed. I'm not watching that BS video.
VADA wouldn't make up a failed test. What they do
with their blood test is detect all the components that make up someone's testosterone composition - they can determine whether or not it is synthetic or natural with their CIR test. His was synthetic. Hence he failed. Had he gotten a standard crap piss test he would've passed b/c a piss test can't detect the properties of testosterone- it just checks a T/E level to see if it's within an allowable amount - and boxing sets their allowable amount at a ridiculous 6-1 ratio. Normal ratio is 1-1 for most men.
Roids and testosterone are 2 completely different entities. Please educate yourself.
Just call them all PEDS, and they are all covered.
As far as the claims against JMM vs Pac, if team Pac suspect JMM because he was looking more ripped and wanted him to take the tests - he agrees but only if Pac takes the same tests - then team Pac drops the request - who would you suspect is cheating? Regardless of who you like better, or who you suspect, they guy that refuses the test is the one that I would suspect most. Sorry to mess things up with common sense type logic.
Re: IS THE TIME RIGHT FOR RIOS TO PICK................
Posted: 10 Feb 2015, 08:47
by black panther
Yeah Rios was a huge lightweight and was able to use this weight and size advantage to bully opponents with greater speed and skill than he had. At the higher weights his lack of skills are exposed more now that he doesn't have the size/weight advantage that he did at lightweight. He used to come in the right around 153lbs at lightweight. That's some serious draining right thurrr.