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Chepppaaa wrote:hahaha....now you here, now its gonen be funny hahahaha

Actually I can't believe I'm saying this but this is the first time I ever agreed with you on anything and quite possibly the last.

Im not a fan of khan, but I think my biggest issue is how does a guy get ranked so high in all the rankings at welterweight (#1 wbc, #2WBA, #4ibf, #6 fightnews) when he hasn't really beaten the top guys at welterweight and didn't dominate in his last class (jr ww). I really don't think he should get a shot at pac or Floyd without beating one of those top tier guys first. Chances are that he will get that shot without "earning it" as we would say, and when he does theres a fair chance that he will lose causing people to wonder why the hell he was in the same ring with those guys anyway. And I think this is a large reason why he's disliked

beatdown337 wrote:Im not a fan of khan, but I think my biggest issue is how does a guy get ranked so high in all the rankings at welterweight (#1 wbc, #2WBA, #4ibf, #6 fightnews) when he hasn't really beaten the top guys at welterweight and didn't dominate in his last class (jr ww). I really don't think he should get a shot at pac or Floyd without beating one of those top tier guys first.

He had a good run at 140. He was top 2 with Tim Bradley for awhile & it actually sounded like Amir wanted to fight Tim & Tim had his eyes on Manny at 147 instead of deciding who the best 140lber was (good for Tim there, that situation was like a lower budget version of Floyd wanting Oscar when Oscar was the man & obviously worked out for him as far as getting paid). But granted his 140 run didn't end well lol.

I think a lot of his current rankings (& eff abc orgs anyway) are based off that good overall history at 140 along with the dominance he showed vs Luis & Devon on top of the rest of the top guys being largely unproven. You can spend all day sh!tting on Amir, no question there & I jump in on that myself from time to time, but he has beaten some solid guys while some of these other 147 guys are more good in theory then proven in the ring. And actually with the abc orgs I think most of these less proven guys might actually be holding silver or bronze or not-super or interim belts so thats probably helping play into Amir being ranked high in the abc rankings.

beatdown337 wrote:Im not a fan of khan, but I think my biggest issue is how does a guy get ranked so high in all the rankings at welterweight (#1 wbc, #2WBA, #4ibf, #6 fightnews) when he hasn't really beaten the top guys at welterweight and didn't dominate in his last class (jr ww). I really don't think he should get a shot at pac or Floyd without beating one of those top tier guys first. Chances are that he will get that shot without "earning it" as we would say, and when he does theres a fair chance that he will lose causing people to wonder why the hell he was in the same ring with those guys anyway. And I think this is a large reason why he's disliked

That's because some people are hobknobbing him because of his win over Devon, personally I never saw anything exceptional about Alexander but it is amazing how much mileage that Amir has gotten off of beating him. Khan got more praise off of beating Alexander than Porter did and Porter did it more convincingly.

For all the guys Khan has beaten he has lost and has not tried to avenge any of his losses but somehow thinks he's in line to get a shot at Floyd or Manny, I'm not in agreement with that. I think he should be forced into facing Peterson and Garcia again before he can even dream of facing Mayweather or Pacquiao.

KBB wrote:

Chepppaaa wrote:hahaha....now you here, now its gonen be funny hahahaha

Actually I can't believe I'm saying this but this is the first time I ever agreed with you on anything and quite possibly the last.

Bottom line is a khan that boxes to orders is gonna be a handful for anyone between light welter and lightmidde

littlepug wrote:Bottom line is a khan that boxes to orders is gonna be a handful for anyone between light welter and lightmidde

no, bottum line is that any top 147-154 boxer kicks his ass. they cant respect his power, because he aint have one. he is a fast light hitter with no chin who comes forward to get knocked out.

Chepppaaa wrote:

littlepug wrote:Bottom line is a khan that boxes to orders is gonna be a handful for anyone between light welter and lightmidde

no, bottum line is that any top 147-154 boxer kicks his ass. they cant respect his power, because he aint have one. he is a fast light hitter with no chin who comes forward to get knocked out.

He hits hard enough to command respect IMO, but anyway lets come back to this in 12 months and see how things have unfolded

littlepug wrote:

Chepppaaa wrote:

littlepug wrote:Bottom line is a khan that boxes to orders is gonna be a handful for anyone between light welter and lightmidde

no, bottum line is that any top 147-154 boxer kicks his ass. they cant respect his power, because he aint have one. he is a fast light hitter with no chin who comes forward to get knocked out.

He hits hard enough to command respect IMO, but anyway lets come back to this in 12 months and see how things have unfolded

okay, lets dot his

wounder who he gonne get if he does not fight pac or may. are they realy in serious discoussions for cotto? brook in wembley.....enough options.

littlepug wrote:

Chepppaaa wrote:

littlepug wrote:Bottom line is a khan that boxes to orders is gonna be a handful for anyone between light welter and lightmidde

no, bottum line is that any top 147-154 boxer kicks his ass. they cant respect his power, because he aint have one. he is a fast light hitter with no chin who comes forward to get knocked out.

He hits hard enough to command respect IMO, but anyway lets come back to this in 12 months and see how things have unfolded

It would not surprise me if he sat that long waiting on the big payday

Can't see cotto as a realistic option, brook seems obvious choice to me, he's lucky to be in the right weight class for good paydays anyway

littlepug wrote:Can't see cotto as a realistic option, brook seems obvious choice to me, he's lucky to be in the right weight class for good paydays anyway

this fight could end up being uk's biggest fight ever. brook > froch and kahn > groves, big match up. strange that they arent negogation it faster, since froch against groves was a big succes media wise and financielly....

Chepppaaa wrote:

littlepug wrote:Can't see cotto as a realistic option, brook seems obvious choice to me, he's lucky to be in the right weight class for good paydays anyway

this fight could end up being uk's biggest fight ever. brook > froch and kahn > groves, big match up. strange that they arent negogation it faster, since froch against groves was a big succes media wise and financielly....

Yeah our domestic dust ups can generate big numbers even when rest of world aren't interested

littlepug wrote:

Chepppaaa wrote:

littlepug wrote:Can't see cotto as a realistic option, brook seems obvious choice to me, he's lucky to be in the right weight class for good paydays anyway

this fight could end up being uk's biggest fight ever. brook > froch and kahn > groves, big match up. strange that they arent negogation it faster, since froch against groves was a big succes media wise and financielly....

Yeah our domestic dust ups can generate big numbers even when rest of world aren't interested

you from uk...should be very cold now =) hehe..hope manu gets better, van gaal sometimes bring in strange line ups

several times in this thread people have started off saying "i admit khan isn't p4p #1..."
well f'ing duh!!
he's not even top 5 in his own division. i am willing to accept that people will argue he
deserves a shot at a 147 title, with me offering the least resistence to him challenging
for brook's title. i think that could be an interesting fight and i'm not sure he could
get past brook, the weakest of the titlists at 147 with other contenders who would
put khan's lights out, guaranteed.
cotto has had like 22 major title fights at 140, 147, 154, and now 160, so when i heard
cotto was getting a shot at a 160 title i thought "sergio will really have to be in bad shape
to lose to cotto", but sergio was in bad shape and cotto also looked sharp. cotto was
an opportunist and you have to give him credit for going for the brass ring and getting
a 160 title. cotto's record is littered with guys who would have knocked khan out,
and even then i would say he had the minimal qualifications to challenge sergio.
i guess the question that haunts me about the whole premise of people talking about
khan challenging cotto is, "what has khan done to earn being mentioned contending for
cotto's 160 title?". people on here have been talking about khan fighting floyd before
the alexander fight, when he barely survived julio diaz at 143 and had been ko'd by
prescott and garcia and lost to pederson at 140. i guess i just want to see fighters
earn the right to talk shit, before talking shit.

sucracristo wrote:several times in this thread people have started off saying "i admit khan isn't p4p #1..."
well f'ing duh!!
he's not even top 5 in his own division. i am willing to accept that people will argue he
deserves a shot at a 147 title, with me offering the least resistence to him challenging
for brook's title. i think that could be an interesting fight and i'm not sure he could
get past brook, the weakest of the titlists at 147 with other contenders who would
put khan's lights out, guaranteed.
cotto has had like 22 major title fights at 140, 147, 154, and now 160, so when i heard
cotto was getting a shot at a 160 title i thought "sergio will really have to be in bad shape
to lose to cotto", but sergio was in bad shape and cotto also looked sharp. cotto was
an opportunist and you have to give him credit for going for the brass ring and getting
a 160 title. cotto's record is littered with guys who would have knocked khan out,
and even then i would say he had the minimal qualifications to challenge sergio.
i guess the question that haunts me about the whole premise of people talking about
khan challenging cotto is, "what has khan done to earn being mentioned contending for
cotto's 160 title?". people on here have been talking about khan fighting floyd before
the alexander fight, when he barely survived julio diaz at 143 and had been ko'd by
prescott and garcia and lost to pederson at 140. i guess i just want to see fighters
earn the right to talk poo, before talking poo.

best post in the thread

so great, i make a thread and a couple of hours after this thread, amir himself shows again his stupidity, well done amir, thank you.

go to fightnews.com

Khan laughs off Brook fight

Khan says Brook fight not big enough

kahn:"kell brook is not on the same level as amir kahn, obviously he is begging the fight against me, i am on a different level were i only wanna fight the elite."

everything he said is basicly crap.

who had the toughest opponent in his last fight? brook did.
who is more athletic and technicly sound? brook is.
who is unbeaten? brook is.
who is a natural strong welterweight? brook is.

i never saw kell begging to fight amir.

were is amir on a different level?

he is like charlie z, he realy believes his own bullsh/()=t

fergusg wrote:

Chepppaaa wrote:The stupidity of Amir Kahn and boxing fans

hahahahaa so funny hahaha you a genius

I think Khan must've drowned Cheppppaaaaa' puppies or something. Christ man, quit your whining.

The guy has evolved as a fighter and fights to his strengths moreso than he did as a kid. Imagine that.

Grow a set of eyes, a brain and empty out the haterade, biatch.

atleast spell his name right...

diddy wrote:I think Khan must've drowned Cheppppaaaaa' puppies or something. Christ man, quit your whining.

The guy has evolved as a fighter and fights to his strengths moreso than he did as a kid. Imagine that.

Grow a set of eyes, a brain and empty out the haterade, biatch.

Most of these guys have never been in the ring before and they have their knowledge based around YouTube clips. I wish some of these people could get in the ring and we can make negative threads about how stupid they look.

ArmaanCFC wrote:Most of these guys have never been in the ring before

sounds like you're going to start calling people out to fight you

Amir khan, he talks a big game but ever since he left allegedly to go it alone (or until he signed with golden boy etc.) he has been exposed, when he meets a truly class opponent he struggles.

even if he does get a fight with either, Manny or Floyd, he isn't ever going to get the respect as one of the worlds best, he talks too much trash and its come back to bite him in the past. Then you look at what he's done in the media, the shorts, the blowing up to ridiculously big weight before having to train harder to get back down and putting in a mediocre performance.

The best back up their words, Floyd, he is arrogant, self centred and without a doubt the boxer everyone in the world would like to see get beaten, but he talks and he backs up his words with his ability and his dedication to this sport.

Manny, isn't a talker, he just has this air of respect to him, the polite professional boxer and politician. I know he has lost but that makes him more human because he is still probably one of the nicest guys in the ring despite being beaten and still having the ability to brutalise anyone who steps in with him.

ArmaanCFC wrote:

diddy wrote:I think Khan must've drowned Cheppppaaaaa' puppies or something. Christ man, quit your whining.

The guy has evolved as a fighter and fights to his strengths moreso than he did as a kid. Imagine that.

Grow a set of eyes, a brain and empty out the haterade, biatch.

Most of these guys have never been in the ring before and they have their knowledge based around YouTube clips. I wish some of these people could get in the ring and we can make negative threads about how stupid they look.

hahahaa.....yeah sure