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Re: Fallacy of "It's Mayweather's Fault!"
Posted: 16 Feb 2015, 16:26
by koolkc107
KBB wrote:koolkc107 wrote:Judging by how Margarito has fought since he has been de-wrapped, I don't think you can say he would murder anyone since it seems at least some of his power left with the plaster.
No, I like very much Ghost's chances against him, Clottey and Rios. As for Robert against Bradley, I think Guerrero out-toughs him, gets him hurt, and unlike Provodnikov, finishes Tim. Joshua has yet to return to top level competition and Brandon is a mixed bag at best right now, although of all of Pac's opponents beside Bradley, he might have the most upside.
I only favor some slightly over Ortiz because he is a known underachiever. But again, if Victor enters the ring with the same grit and in the same shape as he was against Berto, I have a hard time picking against him versus any of the non common guys Pac has fought.
Right now Maidana is also on a different level than any of the aforementioned except Bradley.
And again, NONE of the five men who fought Pac but not Floyd beat Canelo...and most get beaten savagely.
Ghost isn't finishing anyone, he hit Kamegai (
a man far smaller than Bradley) with everything but the kitchen sink but still was unable to dent him/stop him and Tim is every bit tougher and also took shots from bigger punchers than that of Kamegai and still fought like a warrior win, lose or draw.
Kamegai is 3 inches taller than Bradley, enjoys a 2 inch reach advantage over Tim, and unlike Tim has never been on the canvas.
Yet, Ghost had him hurt and hurt bad many times during their fight.
Excuse me if I think that Ghost has plenty enough to put Tim on his arse.
Re: Fallacy of "It's Mayweather's Fault!"
Posted: 16 Feb 2015, 16:49
by KBB
koolkc107 wrote:Kamegai is 3 inches taller than Bradley, enjoys a 2 inch reach advantage over Tim, and unlike Tim has never been on the canvas.
Yet, Ghost had him hurt and hurt bad many times during their fight.
Excuse me if I think that Ghost has plenty enough to put Tim on his arse.
Yes Kamegai has height/reach but physically Bradley is bigger/stronger and can take shots from far bigger and better punchers than Ghost is, I have no problem with your pick, I just disagree for the reasons I stated.
No way IMHO does Ghost put Bradley on his arse.
Re: Fallacy of "It's Mayweather's Fault!"
Posted: 17 Feb 2015, 05:32
by Syntax Error
davie wrote:Seriously guys, is there one thing you have said in this thread that has not been said on here 1000 times.
one argument, one statement, one case made for or against either fighter, either promoter or TV company, that has not been repeated, rehashed and recycled on a weekly basis for the last 6 years.
Give it an effing rest will you, you must be starting to bore yourself now.
If only.
Well said btw.
Re: Fallacy of "It's Mayweather's Fault!"
Posted: 17 Feb 2015, 12:27
by koolkc107
davie wrote:Seriously guys, is there one thing you have said in this thread that has not been said on here 1000 times.
one argument, one statement, one case made for or against either fighter, either promoter or TV company, that has not been repeated, rehashed and recycled on a weekly basis for the last 6 years.
Give it an effing rest will you, you must be starting to bore yourself now.
Can't say I totally disagree with this sentiment.
But as long as folks continue to start clearly biased threads, the right to respond with a more balanced and realistic view should be tolerated, if not welcomed.
Re: Fallacy of "It's Mayweather's Fault!"
Posted: 17 Feb 2015, 15:02
by Purse Bid Shakedown
koolkc107 wrote:Judging by how Margarito has fought since he has been de-wrapped, I don't think you can say he would murder anyone since it seems at least some of his power left with the plaster.
No, I like very much Ghost's chances against him, Clottey and Rios. As for Robert against Bradley, I think Guerrero out-toughs him, gets him hurt, and unlike Provodnikov, finishes Tim. Joshua has yet to return to top level competition and Brandon is a mixed bag at best right now, although of all of Pac's opponents beside Bradley, he might have the most upside.
I only favor some slightly over Ortiz because he is a known underachiever. But again, if Victor enters the ring with the same grit and in the same shape as he was against Berto, I have a hard time picking against him versus any of the non common guys Pac has fought.
Right now Maidana is also on a different level than any of the aforementioned except Bradley.
And again, NONE of the five men who fought Pac but not Floyd beat Canelo...and most get beaten savagely.
Marg fought well vs Pac. He was done after that, shouldn't have gotten sanctioned vs Cotto but didn't make it easy on him even with one working eye.
Guerrero barely made it out on his feet vs tiny welter bum Aydin, who then moved to 140 and got KTFOed by featherfisted Postol. Ate a ton of leather vs noncontender Kamegai. He gets overrun by Marg.
Maidana is not on another level man. He got shut out by Alexander, went the distance with china chinned Khan, barely made it past one eyed, triple shot Morales, went the distance and struggled vs shot Corley etc.