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Suppose Terry Marsh deserves a mention.....some much bigger championship fights were supposed to be waiting down the line for him but he was diagnosed with epilepsy....and it was game over.

Winning the European and IBF titles hardly consistutes a ruined career....but at the same time Marsh never got to fght the big stars and it was an abrupt end for a good fighter. Liked Marsh a great deal as a young fan....although there was something a bit odd about him even then and the epilepsy diagnosis had a few cynical folk whispering.

rio wrote:

palooka wrote:He went on a lads holiday and dived in a swimming pool and did his shoulder really badly, I think he had a few operations but it wasn't ever the same.

Cheers. .....bad luck, never seen him fight but heard he was very good. Anyone who can beat gomez is clearly no mug.

the fight is on YouTube, you can see how Kevin copes with the occasion and how fluent a boxer he was, very coordinated and composed under pressure; it's a shame his career was cut short, he had the skills and calmness to do really well.

Lear had ability but he wasn't the most dedicated kid was he

I remember his trainer saying that he was happy if he'd got money in his pocket for a pint and a bet; I liked him even more then.

palooka wrote:Who was that little flyweight from London who was a tremendous amateur though he had serious drug issues? Was it Costello? I think he won a couple of ABA titles and was a really good boxer.

Danny?

mickey1975 wrote:

palooka wrote:Who was that little flyweight from London who was a tremendous amateur though he had serious drug issues? Was it Costello? I think he won a couple of ABA titles and was a really good boxer.

Danny?

That rings a bell mickey I've not seen him box but he was supposed to be really capable and that was in spite of him really struggling with addiction. I hope he's doing OK now.

Anyone remember heilder ali? I remember warren and kevin mitchell both said he would be a world champion. Never performed well as a pro and seem to remeber he retired due to an injury

hurlock wrote:Lear had ability but he wasn't the most dedicated kid was he

Not sure as I didn't know him but there are not many in this country who had the potential of Gomez. His flawa and improper application stopped him from hitting the world stage but of all the guys I've seen a lot of he's is the one who could've done so much more.

mickey1975 wrote:

palooka wrote:Who was that little flyweight from London who was a tremendous amateur though he had serious drug issues? Was it Costello? I think he won a couple of ABA titles and was a really good boxer.

Danny?

Costello

A broken neck amazingly didn't stop Vinny Pazienza.

Did anyone mention Paul Williams?

Broomhall wrote:Tommy Sheils cracking light middle

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I think he had problems with cuts? not sure, if not would like to know why he jacked it in.

Good fighter,his Brother Brian was a prospect too,always seem to remember them both quitting due to religious beliefs but I also could well be talking out of my arse again

I can't remember what happened to the Bowens. I think they both retired around the same time and one later came back about 8 years later but seem to remember both careers sort of fizzled out. Was one due to injury?

Bodyshot3 wrote:Suppose Terry Marsh deserves a mention.....some much bigger championship fights were supposed to be waiting down the line for him but he was diagnosed with epilepsy....and it was game over.

Winning the European and IBF titles hardly consistutes a ruined career....but at the same time Marsh never got to fght the big stars and it was an abrupt end for a good fighter. Liked Marsh a great deal as a young fan....although there was something a bit odd about him even then and the epilepsy diagnosis had a few cynical folk whispering.

not quite with you mate, what is there about an epilepsy diagnosis that would precipitate cynical whispers?

Spencer Oliver, Ibeabuchi (injured mind), Joshua.

Did Isreal Vasquez have to retire because his nose was badly smashed by Marquez?

I think he was headed that way anyway. He's had a long and hard career and he was starting to show signs of serious decline, not to mention his face was starting to fall apart. I think he'd had several operations on detached retinas, which is no real surprise.

Sklar wrote:

hurlock wrote:Lear had ability but he wasn't the most dedicated kid was he

Not sure as I didn't know him but there are not many in this country who had the potential of Gomez. His flawa and improper application stopped him from hitting the world stage but of all the guys I've seen a lot of he's is the one who could've done so much more.

kevin had to stop boxing because of a bad back.or dodgy shoulder. One of the two. Kevin and his brother danny Lear were both top fighters.seen danny a few times over the years but nothing of Kev.

orbtastic wrote:I can't remember what happened to the Bowens. I think they both retired around the same time and one later came back about 8 years later but seem to remember both careers sort of fizzled out. Was one due to injury?

Teddy's Toupee boxed one of the Bows brothers with a broken hand.

johnnygreaves wrote:

Sklar wrote:

hurlock wrote:Lear had ability but he wasn't the most dedicated kid was he

Not sure as I didn't know him but there are not many in this country who had the potential of Gomez. His flawa and improper application stopped him from hitting the world stage but of all the guys I've seen a lot of he's is the one who could've done so much more.

kevin had to stop boxing because of a bad back.or dodgy shoulder. One of the two. Kevin and his brother danny Lear were both top fighters.seen danny a few times over the years but nothing of Kev.

Do you see Steve Roberts about, Johnny? He was a cracking fighter amateur and pro.

Danny Hunt. Very good boxer. Lost to lee meager in a very good and close fight for the English title. Hampered by cuts.

rio wrote:Anyone remember heilder ali? I remember warren and kevin mitchell both said he would be a world champion. Never performed well as a pro and seem to remeber he retired due to an injury

Yes was commonwealth gold medalist for Pakistan. If I recall right he pulled out halfway through his fight. His corner couldn't believe he wanted to quit and subsequently never worked with him again.

Lee McAllister had a lot of long lay offs before retiring, he was a good fighter,he put in a great effort against a prime John Murray and then got injured in a European title fight against Shafikov,he could have been in more big fights if he was just able to get some momentum going, still he was 2 weight Commonwealth champ

Dean Francis sticks out for me. He was British and European champion, was on a great run of form and with his jab and combinations (serious power in left hook) looked a certain world champion for me

Paul Williams paralyzed in motorcycle accident, also Egbefumere Albert , never heard of him? Well he got $1 million for a hand injury substained in a car crash , he was a cruiserweight from Nigeria who boxed in Canada. I don't know of many cruisers that would of earned a million in their careers, but thats what he got in lost earnings.

The insurers appealed but lost, oddly they said that Mr Albert was exaggerating his injury, and at the time Albert was on bail for a lottery telemarketing scam as well, i'm also pretty sure i got an email from him claiming to be a Nigerian prince who needed to have my bank details so i could get a lot of money

palooka wrote:Calzaghe was very heavy handed in the early part of his career, dropping people like Mark Delaney who'd never been down am or pro and Eubank who Benn couldn't drop; he was destructive - I remember watching him v Stinger Mason and he absolutely blasted him off his feet and into the ring post.

You mean the Eubank that Benn could not drop but actually did drop in the first fight. Just because Eubank said it was a slip does not make it so. A punch landed behind the ear and he hit the deck.