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mickey1975 wrote:

Alba wrote:

Stuarty30 wrote:Unfortunately you always get a minority of idiots hellbent on making a total prick of themselves. There is usually a highly charged atmosphere at these events and it doesn't take much for some wall puncher to boot off then it just escalates! That incident on Sat in Sheffield was sad to see. I've four kids, two of em boys (7&6) who are keen to go to a show but it'll be a wee while yet til I'm comfortable taking em.

this wasent a minority mate, from were i was sitting there was a few rows that were kicking off ... :(

It's not a minority. The vast majority are of the 'casual' variety. More tickets have gone on sale today, they've done 7,000 so far so have now opened top tier. A friend of mine has picked 50 up today, never been to a boxing match in his life.

and is your friend od the casual variety ?

mickey1975 wrote:

Alba wrote:

Stuarty30 wrote:Unfortunately you always get a minority of idiots hellbent on making a total prick of themselves. There is usually a highly charged atmosphere at these events and it doesn't take much for some wall puncher to boot off then it just escalates! That incident on Sat in Sheffield was sad to see. I've four kids, two of em boys (7&6) who are keen to go to a show but it'll be a wee while yet til I'm comfortable taking em.

this wasent a minority mate, from were i was sitting there was a few rows that were kicking off ... :(

It's not a minority. The vast majority are of the 'casual' variety. More tickets have gone on sale today, they've done 7,000 so far so have now opened top tier. A friend of mine has picked 50 up today, never been to a boxing match in his life.

I'm not specifically talking about the Leeds boys mate just shows I have been to. I've never been to any of Josh's fights so I can only go from what I read on here. My English team i follow is actually Leeds Utd and I was considering trying to take a game and fight in sometime if the dates work out. Having second thoughts now after reading this though lol.

Yes, Alba, he is. They are all late 30's early 40's and have been going years. 'York Whites', most places in Yorkshire have Whites! Stone Island and Cocaine everywhere...

Bunch of idiots, if stoke were acting like
That is be cringing my head off,

They started singing 'who's that dying on the runway' at one point too. Sounded like proper dickheads.

When he fights Lee Selby at Elland Road it will be the end for him. Because of the chaos that will cause, I am not looking forward to going to that at all, I am already dreading April.

WelshJack wrote:When he fights Lee Selby at Elland Road it will be the end for him. Because of the chaos that will cause, I am not looking forward to going to that at all, I am already dreading April.

Don't bother, if your accent matches your username your bound to attract some idiots at some point!

I've not been to a big fight since the mag 7 i think as i couldn't be arsed with the trouble

Sklar wrote:Providing there's nobody to fight against they'll be alright, won't they?

Sklar is crying because America got battered by rice farmers from South East Asia only 40 years ago.

Bigger upset than Tyson Douglas.

Taansend wrote:

Sklar wrote:Providing there's nobody to fight against they'll be alright, won't they?

Sklar is crying because America got battered by rice farmers from South East Asia only 40 years ago.

Why would that be, mein freund?

mickey1975 wrote:

Sklar wrote:Providing there's nobody to fight against they'll be alright, won't they?

I wouldn't even trust the ones I know getting through an all day session without some fall outs amongst themselves, let alone the rest of the them.

I always found the 'casuals' to be the biggest pricks in a city grouped together. Utter shitebags on their own. Like packs of chimpanzees. Some of the 'fights' they get into are ludicrous.

mickey1975 wrote:They WILL spoil it for him. I'm not bothering with the April show because of them.

imo it is because of them he is where he is.....fast car wouldn't be elevating that kid if it wasn't for the 10's of thousands of pounds in ticket sales he is getting out of him. And lets be honest those aren't proper ticket sales where people unaffiliated come to watch, they are like most ticket sellers over here unfortunately, and that's bringing their mates, family, mates of mates etc.

either way its bad press for him

Tastethepain wrote:

mickey1975 wrote:They WILL spoil it for him. I'm not bothering with the April show because of them.

imo it is because of them he is where he is.....fast car wouldn't be elevating that kid if it wasn't for the 10's of thousands of pounds in ticket sales he is getting out of him. And lets be honest those aren't proper ticket sales where people unaffiliated come to watch, they are like most ticket sellers over here unfortunately, and that's bringing their mates, family, mates of mates etc.

either way its bad press for him

It's going to be hundreds of thousands of pounds and of course he wouldn't be here without them. He's done more tickets with two months to go than the Manchester show with Quigg, Crolla and AJ did. It's a huge profit for Eddie. Ad for the sales, they're all affiliated to Leeds United, not Josh. They won't have even known who he was 18 months ago.

mickey1975 wrote:

Tastethepain wrote:

mickey1975 wrote:They WILL spoil it for him. I'm not bothering with the April show because of them.

imo it is because of them he is where he is.....fast car wouldn't be elevating that kid if it wasn't for the 10's of thousands of pounds in ticket sales he is getting out of him. And lets be honest those aren't proper ticket sales where people unaffiliated come to watch, they are like most ticket sellers over here unfortunately, and that's bringing their mates, family, mates of mates etc.

either way its bad press for him

It's going to be hundreds of thousands of pounds and of course he wouldn't be here without them. He's done more tickets with two months to go than the Manchester show with Quigg, Crolla and AJ did. It's a huge profit for Eddie. Ad for the sales, they're all affiliated to Leeds United, not Josh. They won't have even known who he was 18 months ago.

Thanks for the knowledge. Ahhh so some of his connections branch into Leeds united. All I can say is the kid caught a serious break, without being disrespectful, there's so many better kids I've mentioned on here than him, that haven't caught their break because of ticket sales. It's a shame that such emphasis is on fighters doing the tickets, I bet it's not like that around puerto RICO, Mexico, or USA

typical football fan spilling over into watching boxing its always happens when the place they come from is a dump.

Tomasino wrote:

mickey1975 wrote:

Sklar wrote:Providing there's nobody to fight against they'll be alright, won't they?

I wouldn't even trust the ones I know getting through an all day session without some fall outs amongst themselves, let alone the rest of the them.

I always found the 'casuals' to be the biggest pricks in a city grouped together. Utter shitebags on their own. Like packs of chimpanzees. Some of the 'fights' they get into are ludicrous.

In The Journeymen book, there is a chapter with Johnny Greaves and he said something about the West Ham fans round his way that made me laugh - he says they stand about outside a pub, do a bit of shouting, smash some windows, get moved on by the police and then tell everyone they've done Tottenham. Johnny is the business

Ha, very true, and not just west ham fans

palooka wrote:
In The Journeymen book, there is a chapter with Johnny Greaves and he said something about the West Ham fans round his way that made me laugh - he says they stand about outside a pub, do a bit of shouting, smash some windows, get moved on by the police and then tell everyone they've done Tottenham. Johnny is the business

Not true. You never seen that documentary Green Street!? Hooligans are true warriors. RIP Pete Dunham.

Sklar wrote:

mfc_se15 wrote:

Sklar wrote:It's still surprising how many Brits don't know that we only played a supporting role in WW2 and would have been absolutely trounced by Germany had it not been for the Soviet Union and the US

Hoping for a couple of bites on that fishing rod your setting up there?

Not really. The Brits turned tail and ran (sensibly) in 1940, an act that was perhaps the most shameful moment in British military history and, even with 70 odd years of spin to try and turn Op Dynamo into some kind of genuine success, signified the end of Britain's tenure as a global superpower. From then on we were a junior partner in every sense.

It is true that Britain was a junior partner during the war, but it didn't begin after Operation Dynamo, it actually started before that.
When the Germans invaded northwest Europe they faced a huge allied army of which the vast majority were French, the British made up only about 10-15% of the defending force.
In fact the only notable engagement between British and German forces during that campaign was at Arras, which was a very minor engagement.
However, when the western front re-opened in 1944 the British contribution was much more substantial, despite the vast resources of the US the British made up just under half the ground troops used on D-Day (with a Canadian division under command also) and most of the Naval vessels too.
The US did begin to throw troops into Europe at an exceptionally fast rate but by the end of the war still didn't outnumber the Brits by much more than 3/1, it is difficult to say for sure as the British were intertwined with the Canadians and the Americans were intertwined with the French.
Not that any of that matters as the Soviets won the real war

Didn't the Soviets win by sacrificing hundreds of thousands of troops and civilians? Must be a phyric victory.

danamba7 wrote:

palooka wrote:
In The Journeymen book, there is a chapter with Johnny Greaves and he said something about the West Ham fans round his way that made me laugh - he says they stand about outside a pub, do a bit of shouting, smash some windows, get moved on by the police and then tell everyone they've done Tottenham. Johnny is the business

Not true. You never seen that documentary Green Street!? Hooligans are true warriors. RIP Pete Dunham.

They've not been the same since Gary Oldman's, The Firm.

palooka wrote:Didn't the Soviets win by sacrificing hundreds of thousands of troops and civilians? Must be a phyric victory.

Indeed

It's not football fans, it's what happens when you get a load of people who don't know the sport but latch on to some bandwagon to be a part of, to blame it on football fans is just lazy. I mean fornicate me I attended a MotoGP race in Italy about 10 years ago and seeing the sheer hatred, abuse and fights between the rival Rossi and Biaggi fans made the Old Firm derby seem like a fornicating picnic. Most sports have fanatics and when booze and machismo are thrown into the mix you've got a potential for nasty behaviour, palming it off on football fans is just an attempt to hide the fact that boxing and other sports have hooligan problems of their own.

Well everyone that I know who is going are football fans and always have been. Never been to boxing before.

It is deffo football related - big boxing shows are a hooligans dream - large groups of lads from different cities/regions with no police or segregation to get in the way.

a perfect alternative to the heavily policed football fixture list.

Most boxers with big followings are associated with a football team or certain city (which in and of itself with draw football hooligans in).

Rarely got to 'mega shows' anymore drew to the high arsehole/genuine fan ratio.

Next one I attend will be Macklin and the other brummie lads at the NIA.

I hope they think about seat allocations and who from outside Brum boxes on that show - last thing we need is another Magnificent 7...

banjo wrote:It's not football fans, it's what happens when you get a load of people who don't know the sport but latch on to some bandwagon to be a part of, to blame it on football fans is just lazy. I mean eff me I attended a MotoGP race in Italy about 10 years ago and seeing the sheer hatred, abuse and fights between the rival Rossi and Biaggi fans made the Old Firm derby seem like a effing picnic. Most sports have fanatics and when booze and machismo are thrown into the mix you've got a potential for nasty behaviour, palming it off on football fans is just an attempt to hide the fact that boxing and other sports have hooligan problems of their own.

It definitely IS football fans mate, certainly in a lot of cases. That's not laziness that's fact.

Don't get me wrong, I know there a idiot fans in every sport but a LOT of warringtons 'fans' are Leeds casuals that now have an excuse to go somewhere different and cause a scene.

They are not boxing fans at all in a lot of cases.