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kidbazooka1 wrote:I don't know but the commentators tonight were horrible Ray was biased as fuuck towards broner and Thurman and that other guy was calling wrong punches all night.

ReggieDiggs wrote:

kidbazooka1 wrote:I don't know but the commentators tonight were horrible Ray was biased as fuuck towards broner and Thurman and that other guy was calling wrong punches all night.

Agree. Idk why almost only old people can talk & judge boxing in the "powers that be" estimation. Throw me a bunch of 25 year olds judging fights & throw some Youtube personality as the Jim Lampley guy & I think it'd be a more enjoyable telecast from those angles.

PBC Boxing draws a 2.5 overnight household rating in primetime on NBC

Preliminary viewership is subject to revision because the west coast is not handled properly for live events, looks like 3.13 million in preliminary numbers.

Per NBC Sports PR, last night’s debut of PBC Boxing in primetime on NBC averaged a 2.53/5 household rating/share from 8:30-11p ET and was highest-rated sporting event from 9-11p ET (2.67). The 2.53 overnight rating nearly tripled NBC average for Saturday afternoon fights from 2012-14 (.88) according to NBC. We’ll update this post with preliminary viewership as soon as we see it.

NBC says the rating increased every half hour & peaked at 3.01 from 10:30-11pm ET for final 6 rounds of Thurman-Guerrero bout.

Top markets for Premier Boxing Champions on NBC:

Norfolk 5.5/8
Cincinnati 4.9/10
San Antonio 4.8/9
New Orleans 4.3/7
Ft. Myers 3.9/7
Sacramento 3.7/8
Dayton 3.6/6
Orlando 3.3/6
Philadelphia 3.3/6
Tulsa 3.2/5

Dennis wrote:I liked that Smoger criticized Byrd.

ReggieDiggs wrote:

PBC Boxing draws a 2.5 overnight household rating in primetime on NBC

Preliminary viewership is subject to revision because the west coast is not handled properly for live events, looks like 3.13 million in preliminary numbers.

Per NBC Sports PR, last night’s debut of PBC Boxing in primetime on NBC averaged a 2.53/5 household rating/share from 8:30-11p ET and was highest-rated sporting event from 9-11p ET (2.67). The 2.53 overnight rating nearly tripled NBC average for Saturday afternoon fights from 2012-14 (.88) according to NBC. We’ll update this post with preliminary viewership as soon as we see it.

NBC says the rating increased every half hour & peaked at 3.01 from 10:30-11pm ET for final 6 rounds of Thurman-Guerrero bout.

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davie wrote:I know we can pull that in over here in the UK.

surely 5m isn't that outrageous a figure in the states, or is boxing not as big over there as I thought?

krackle wrote: I should post some numbers from Germany to put that into perspective. And they fight at around 11:15 to midnight.
To me 3.13 sounds awful.

ReggieDiggs wrote:

krackle wrote: I should post some numbers from Germany to put that into perspective. And they fight at around 11:15 to midnight.
To me 3.13 sounds awful.

What major sports do you got there?

In the US I believe Boxing is the #11 biggest sport or something like that & this card just drew 2x of one of the sports above boxing which is a W in my book. Plus we got a nation of gamers. I know 3 people making a living playing video games all day on Twitch ffs. The celeb culture is DEEP in the US. When Kendall Jenner takes a sh!t twitter blows up. I don't believe its really comparable here to the UK or Germany or other countries. Boxing has taken a big backseat to other sports since it was running things back in those early days of TV. And there are so many other things people do these days in the US that take there time & leave them less time to watch what to them is some random guys hitting each other in the head. Its a different culture, a different audience here.

BAD INTENTIONS wrote:It's crazy how the advertising was so limited. FNF has many sponsors and commercials, but boxing on network TV couldn't draw anything.

Whatever, this response from "money" is typical in America. I bet everyone will be throwing money at Bob's network broadcast if/when he tries to go mainstream.

BAD INTENTIONS wrote: Americans are the type of people who are comfortable providing Kim Kardashian's little sister the means to buy a $2.3M house ... but argue viciously against public welfare programs such as paid time off for women who just had a child.

It's not CELEB CULTURE, it's pure stupidity. Last night's show would have been a much bigger "success" if Broner was allowed to be Broner.

BAD INTENTIONS wrote:It's crazy how the advertising was so limited. FNF has many sponsors and commercials, but boxing on network TV couldn't draw anything.

Whatever, this response from "money" is typical in America. I bet everyone will be throwing money at Bob's network broadcast if/when he tries to go mainstream.

Perseus wrote:Boxing needs something it rarely gets.
POSITIVE mainstream media coverage.
Letting Broner be a douche-bag on the first primetime, network tv boxing in forever would not have been positive.
Blowing up twitter with hatred would not be a good thing for the sport it would just be more ammunition for the haters to continue to put the sport down.

Most of the mainstream media coverage about boxing is almost always negative and on the rare occasion of positive media coverage they still slip in something negative.
Most of the upcoming media blitz about Pac/May will have plenty of talk about how boxing "needs" a big fight, how the sport "is on the ropes" and declarations of it being "the last" big fight the "dying" sport has to offer.
It's almost like there is an unwritten rule that mainstream American media coverage of boxing has to be negative.
Every time a boxer dies after a fight anywhere in the world it's on the front page of the espn website, while great fights are routinely ignored.

Boxing is a niche sport in America now and it's unlikely to be anything more than that anytime soon but if it is going to make a comeback to something close to glory days it's going to be on the back of positive media coverage not negative media.

BTW:
You think it's hard finding boxing fans in America?
Try finding parents who would let their children take up boxing or push them into the sport.

BAD INTENTIONS wrote:

davie wrote:I know we can pull that in over here in the UK.

surely 5m isn't that outrageous a figure in the states, or is boxing not as big over there as I thought?

That's what we've been trying to tell you guys. Froch can fill a stadium in the UK but most of our fighters of similar accomplishments can't fill an arena. That's why I have to come to this forum to discuss boxing. It's almost impossible to find anyone in regular life in American who really follows boxing. We're mostly big fight fans.

ReggieDiggs wrote:

Perseus wrote:Boxing needs something it rarely gets.
POSITIVE mainstream media coverage.
Letting Broner be a douche-bag on the first primetime, network tv boxing in forever would not have been positive.
Blowing up twitter with hatred would not be a good thing for the sport it would just be more ammunition for the haters to continue to put the sport down.

Most of the mainstream media coverage about boxing is almost always negative and on the rare occasion of positive media coverage they still slip in something negative.
Most of the upcoming media blitz about Pac/May will have plenty of talk about how boxing "needs" a big fight, how the sport "is on the ropes" and declarations of it being "the last" big fight the "dying" sport has to offer.
It's almost like there is an unwritten rule that mainstream American media coverage of boxing has to be negative.
Every time a boxer dies after a fight anywhere in the world it's on the front page of the espn website, while great fights are routinely ignored.

Boxing is a niche sport in America now and it's unlikely to be anything more than that anytime soon but if it is going to make a comeback to something close to glory days it's going to be on the back of positive media coverage not negative media.

BTW:
You think it's hard finding boxing fans in America?
Try finding parents who would let their children take up boxing or push them into the sport.

I'm actually on board with most of what you're saying & your overall stance. And I think we are in the minority of thinking "positive" boxing coverage is a goal people in boxing should have & negative boxing coverage should be swatted down like an annoying bug.

The difference we'd have with this topic would be in that I don't wanna have boxers all take on that Oscar/Ray cardboard cutout perfect male role model angle if thats not who they are.

I think the negative slant boxing gets by the public is cuz of all the negative things. There is a ton of corruption that a blind person can see. There are too many belts. Promoters have done awful things to screw over boxers. And guys can get severely hurt or killed in the ring. You can't change any of that stuff though. It is what it is & it won't be a perception thats changed overnight.

What you can do is get the people in the sport to quit sh!tting on the thing that helps pay their rent. It seems obviously, but telling Teddy to not sh!t on the fight ESPN is showing when ESPN pays you money shouldn't be that hard a concept to grasp & if its not grasped Teddy should be getting a gig selling boxing gloves on some shopping channel at 3am.

What we shouldn't be doing is stifling a boxers persona in the sport. The differences boxers have should be promoted. Even if they are negative. And hell sometimes Adrien can be legit funny. But he's gonna get eyes on the sport & they need eyes. If Adrien says f#ck on TV or something that he's not supposed to do or say, fine him & make it a big to do by PBC. That gets more eyes on the fight.

Right now they are attempting to build a product people wanna watch & people wanna see the good & the bad. If people just wanted to see the good, porn wouldn't be so damn popular on the internet & shows with anti heros wouldn't be so popular right now. If they wanted things to go off smooth for just the first show fair enough, but I think its another in a list of mistakes PBC made last night that coulda made things pop & that has me believing their concept needs adjusting or what NBC is letting them get away with is extremely limited for the duration of this deal or til they acquire certain numbers even though they are buying the time.

I'll be watching whatever the case.

davie wrote: But one thing Perseus say that's bang on the money, is there's no need to talk down the sport and put meaningless negative slants on even news that should be positive

ReggieDiggs wrote:

davie wrote: But one thing Perseus say that's bang on the money, is there's no need to talk down the sport and put meaningless negative slants on even news that should be positive

But thats not how the world works. When Kim Kardashian or Michael Vick come on your TV there are gonna be talk show hosts or news people who are gonna have a negative spin on them today over things they've done in their past. Thats as prepackaged for those people who've got a negative spin to themselves as boxing has a negative spin on itself for that same type of audience due to its history which isn't debatable.

All boxing people can do is make sure boxing people talk about the sport in a positive light & that will slowly make a impact. You can't stop the people from sh!tting on the sport who only know about Tyson biting an ear off of some guy or Ray Mancini killing that guy or Don King f#cking over so many of his fighters.

Its not surprising to me that the mainstream news or general sports people have a negative take on boxing cuz you can watch boxing Friday & get plenty of negativity right there. Why would a mainstream news or general sports person have a positive spin on boxing when he hears a negative spin right from the people supposedly promoting the sport?

Saturday night’s debut of the Premier Boxing Champions (PBC) on NBC was the most-watched professional boxing broadcast since 1998, according to Fast National Data from The Nielsen Company.

The PBC on NBC telecast averaged 3.4 million viewers, ranking as the most-watched professional boxing broadcast in 17 years (“Oscar De La Hoya’s Fight Night” on FOX, 5.9 million, Mon., March 23, 1998). Viewership increased every half hour through the telecast and peaked at 4.2 million from 10:30-11 p.m. ET during the exciting Rounds 7-12 of Keith Thurman’s unanimous decision over Robert Guerrero

One of the most important numbers to note is that PBC on NBC also led NBC to a Saturday primetime victory among Adults 18-49, with a 1.08 rating in the demographic.

“The return of primetime boxing to NBC for the first time in three decades got off to a strong start last weekend with Saturday’s PBC on NBC debut,” said Jon Miller, President of Programming for NBC Sports and NBCSN. “With our next primetime telecast on Saturday, April 11, we look forward to building on the momentum that this first event clearly established. We are excited that high-quality boxing is back on NBC.”

More numbers:

Saturday night’s telecast (8:30-11 p.m. ET) posted a 2.11/4 fast national rating – up 174% from the average boxing telecast on NBC from 2012-14 (.77). It is also the highest-rated professional boxing broadcast since the ’98 De La Hoya show on FOX (4.29).

More than 575,000 minutes (576,435) of PBC on NBC coverage was live streamed via NBC Sports Live Extra to desktops, tablets and mobile devices – ranking as the third-best Saturday night this year behind the NFL Wild Card Playoff (Jan. 3, 2015) and the NHL Stadium Series game (Feb. 21, 2015).

The return of PBC on NBC will return from New York in a double header when Danny Garcia takes on Lamont Peterson and Andy Lee puts his title on the line against New Yorker Peter Quillin.

According to other numbers PBC on NBC beat out everything in the same time slot with the exception of the Duke-North Carolina game on Saturday.