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So Audley, Khan and Fury did the best? The 3 most despised fighters on the forum!

davie wrote:found some figures from 2011

Sky
18/12/2011 - Ward-Froch - 248,000
11/12/2011 - Khan-Peterson - 237,000
12/09/2011 McCloskey-Prescott & Klitschko-Adamek - 193,000
16/07/2011 Murray-Mitchell - 190,000
07/05/2011 International Prizefighters Heavyweights - 170,000
02/12/2011 - Sturm-Murray - 141,000
25/06/2011 Brook-N'Dou & Sturm-Macklin - 133,000
03/12/2011 - Arron-Rose - 126,000
12/11/2011 - Vassell-Colomban - 123,000

Channel 5
23/07/2011 Chisora-Fury - 2,220,000
17/09/2011 Fury-Firtha - 1,030,000
12/11/2011 Fury-Pajkic - 1,736,000

ITV
10/12/2005 Harrison-Williams 6.1million
05/04/2008 Khan-Kristjansen 4.37 million
02/02/2008 Khan-St Clair 4.15 million
08/12/2007 Khan-Earl 4.14 million
21/06/2008 Khan-Gomez 3.98 million
and now
28/02/2015 Frampton-Avalos 1.9million

I'm not sure if Skys viewing figure have picked up in recent years, but when you compare them to the viewers Fury got on 5 and Khan and now Frampton get on ITV, it's a wonder Sky can compete and that terrestrial channels do not have a lot more invested in British boxing

Good research, thanks

mickey1975 wrote:So Audley, Khan and Fury did the best? The 3 most despised fighters on the forum!

Lol

Matchroom
28/1/12 Frampton-Hughes - No figure, less than 119,000
17/3/12 Brook-Hatton - 347,000
27/4/12 Bellew-McIntosh - No figure, less than 147,000
5/5/12 McCloskey-Corley/Prizefighter - No figure, less than 159,000
26/5/12 Froch-Bute - 368,000
20/6/12 Prizefighter(Wednesday) - 84,000
7/7/12 Brook-Jones 1 - 283,000
8/9/12 Bellew-Miranda - 102,000
22/9/12 Frampton-Molitor - No figure, less than 138,000
6/10/12 Prizefighter - No figure, less than 205,000
20/10/12 Brook-Saldivia - 124,000
3/11/12 Prizefighter - 101,000
17/11/12 Froch-Mack - 263,000
8/12/12 Barker-Hope - No figure, less than 171,000
19/1/13 Prizefighter - No figure, less than 122,000
9/2/13 Frampton-Martinez - No figure, less than 160,000
23/2/13 Prizefighter - 141,000
9/3/13 Barker-Rotolo - 63,000(SS2)
30/3/13 Bellew-Chilemba 1/Mathews-Crolla 2 - 178,000
20/4/13 Rose-Alcine - No figure, less than 68,000
11/5/13 Burns-Gonzalez - No figure, less than 273,000
18/5/13 Prizefighter - No figure, less than 166,000
29/6/13 Crolla-Rees - No figure, less than 94,000
6/7/13 Prizefighter - 80,000
13/7/13 Campbell debut/Mathews-Coyle/Brook-Jones 2 - 170,000
7/9/13 Burns-Beltran - 136,000(SS2)
21/9/13 Mathews-Woodhouse/Smith-Ochieng - 75,000(SS2)
5/10/13 Joshua debut/Quigg-Salinas - 146,000(SS2)
26/10/13 Brook-Senchenko - 197,000
2/11/13 Coyle-Simpson - 127,000
14/11/13 Joshua/Prizefighter(Thursday) - 136,000
14/12/13 Purdy-Bundu - 69,000(SS3)
1/2/14 Rees-Buckland 1 - No figure, less than 210,000. Sunday morning replay on SS3 had 24,000 viewers.
22/2/14 Coyle-Brizuela - 88,000(SS2)
1/3/14 Burns-Crawford - 153,000(SS2)
15/3/14 Bellew-Brudov - 115,000(SS2)
5/4/14 Prizefighter - No figure, less than 266,000
19/4/14 Crolla-Murray - 96,000(SS2)
17/5/14 Rees-Buckland 2 - No figure, less than 127,000
21/5/14 Warrington-Lindsay(Wednesday) - 57,000(SS2)
27/6/14 Burns-Zlaticanin - 67,000(SS3) - Broadcast cut out halfway through.
12/7/14 Bellew-Dos Santos/Cleverly-Valori - 88,000
13/9/14 Quigg-Jamoye - No figure, less than 98,000
4/10/14 Warrington-Dieli - 89,000(SS2)
11/10/14 Joshua-Bakhtov - 152,000
25/10/14 Coyle-Katsidis/Campbell-Brizuela - 71,000
15/11/14 Macklin-Heiland - 64,000
6/12/14 Prizefighter - No figure, less than 77,000

That's every figure since Eddie took full control of Matchroom. I'll do the Channel 5 figures tomorrow and given a few days/weeks, I'll have a look into some historical figures, they go back to July 1998. And for anyone asking, yes, I have too much time on my hands.

reggaereggae wrote:

davie wrote:found some figures from 2011

Sky
18/12/2011 - Ward-Froch - 248,000
11/12/2011 - Khan-Peterson - 237,000
12/09/2011 McCloskey-Prescott & Klitschko-Adamek - 193,000
16/07/2011 Murray-Mitchell - 190,000
07/05/2011 International Prizefighters Heavyweights - 170,000
02/12/2011 - Sturm-Murray - 141,000
25/06/2011 Brook-N'Dou & Sturm-Macklin - 133,000
03/12/2011 - Arron-Rose - 126,000
12/11/2011 - Vassell-Colomban - 123,000

Channel 5
23/07/2011 Chisora-Fury - 2,220,000
17/09/2011 Fury-Firtha - 1,030,000
12/11/2011 Fury-Pajkic - 1,736,000

ITV
10/12/2005 Harrison-Williams 6.1million
05/04/2008 Khan-Kristjansen 4.37 million
02/02/2008 Khan-St Clair 4.15 million
08/12/2007 Khan-Earl 4.14 million
21/06/2008 Khan-Gomez 3.98 million
and now
28/02/2015 Frampton-Avalos 1.9million

I'm not sure if Skys viewing figure have picked up in recent years, but when you compare them to the viewers Fury got on 5 and Khan and now Frampton get on ITV, it's a wonder Sky can compete and that terrestrial channels do not have a lot more invested in British boxing

Good research, thanks

Not my research mate, blatantly pinched from a 3 year old post on another forum. Would have posted the link but wasn't sure if that was allowed on here.

reggaereggae wrote:

mickey1975 wrote:So Audley, Khan and Fury did the best? The 3 most despised fighters on the forum!

Lol

Got to love that

Does go to show how many we can get behind our fighters on terrestrial TV though.
Imagine Froch and Brook joined Frampton on ITV now. the numbers would be huge!

Again, looking at expe's sky figures from 2012-2014, only 2 figures over 300,000.
It's amazing that BBC, ITV and C5 are not dipping their toe in the water more often considering they can draw millions in for non-prime time slots
What else would pull in 2m viewers at 11pm on a saturday night
Christ 6m watching Audley Harrison....

davie wrote:

reggaereggae wrote:

mickey1975 wrote:So Audley, Khan and Fury did the best? The 3 most despised fighters on the forum!

Lol

Got to love that

Does go to show how many we can get behind our fighters on terrestrial TV though.
Imagine Froch and Brook joined Frampton on ITV now. the numbers would be huge!

Again, looking at expe's sky figures from 2012-2014, only 2 figures over 300,000.
It's amazing that BBC, ITV and C5 are not dipping their toe in the water more often considering they can draw millions in for non-prime time slots
What else would pull in 2m viewers at 11pm on a saturday night
Christ 6m watching Audley Harrison....

Most notable thing for me was Prizefighter, Hearn always claims that Sky like it and it does good viewing figures. Not according to that data, most of the time it wasn't in the top 10 for that week, only 3 times was it above 100,000, one was 101k, the other had Audley in it and the other had Joshua on the bill to pad it out.

davie wrote:
I'm not sure if Skys viewing figure have picked up in recent years, but when you compare them to the viewers Fury got on 5 and Khan and now Frampton get on ITV, it's a wonder Sky can compete and that terrestrial channels do not have a lot more invested in British boxing

Sky compete because they pay huge rights fees for the fights. Terrestrial channels won't do that.

expe wrote:Matchroom
28/1/12 Frampton-Hughes - No figure, less than 119,000
17/3/12 Brook-Hatton - 347,000
27/4/12 Bellew-McIntosh - No figure, less than 147,000
5/5/12 McCloskey-Corley/Prizefighter - No figure, less than 159,000
26/5/12 Froch-Bute - 368,000
20/6/12 Prizefighter(Wednesday) - 84,000
7/7/12 Brook-Jones 1 - 283,000
8/9/12 Bellew-Miranda - 102,000
22/9/12 Frampton-Molitor - No figure, less than 138,000
6/10/12 Prizefighter - No figure, less than 205,000
20/10/12 Brook-Saldivia - 124,000
3/11/12 Prizefighter - 101,000
17/11/12 Froch-Mack - 263,000
8/12/12 Barker-Hope - No figure, less than 171,000
19/1/13 Prizefighter - No figure, less than 122,000
9/2/13 Frampton-Martinez - No figure, less than 160,000
23/2/13 Prizefighter - 141,000
9/3/13 Barker-Rotolo - 63,000(SS2)
30/3/13 Bellew-Chilemba 1/Mathews-Crolla 2 - 178,000
20/4/13 Rose-Alcine - No figure, less than 68,000
11/5/13 Burns-Gonzalez - No figure, less than 273,000
18/5/13 Prizefighter - No figure, less than 166,000
29/6/13 Crolla-Rees - No figure, less than 94,000
6/7/13 Prizefighter - 80,000
13/7/13 Campbell debut/Mathews-Coyle/Brook-Jones 2 - 170,000
7/9/13 Burns-Beltran - 136,000(SS2)
21/9/13 Mathews-Woodhouse/Smith-Ochieng - 75,000(SS2)
5/10/13 Joshua debut/Quigg-Salinas - 146,000(SS2)
26/10/13 Brook-Senchenko - 197,000
2/11/13 Coyle-Simpson - 127,000
14/11/13 Joshua/Prizefighter(Thursday) - 136,000
14/12/13 Purdy-Bundu - 69,000(SS3)
1/2/14 Rees-Buckland 1 - No figure, less than 210,000. Sunday morning replay on SS3 had 24,000 viewers.
22/2/14 Coyle-Brizuela - 88,000(SS2)
1/3/14 Burns-Crawford - 153,000(SS2)
15/3/14 Bellew-Brudov - 115,000(SS2)
5/4/14 Prizefighter - No figure, less than 266,000
19/4/14 Crolla-Murray - 96,000(SS2)
17/5/14 Rees-Buckland 2 - No figure, less than 127,000
21/5/14 Warrington-Lindsay(Wednesday) - 57,000(SS2)
27/6/14 Burns-Zlaticanin - 67,000(SS3) - Broadcast cut out halfway through.
12/7/14 Bellew-Dos Santos/Cleverly-Valori - 88,000
13/9/14 Quigg-Jamoye - No figure, less than 98,000
4/10/14 Warrington-Dieli - 89,000(SS2)
11/10/14 Joshua-Bakhtov - 152,000
25/10/14 Coyle-Katsidis/Campbell-Brizuela - 71,000
15/11/14 Macklin-Heiland - 64,000
6/12/14 Prizefighter - No figure, less than 77,000

That's every figure since Eddie took full control of Matchroom. I'll do the Channel 5 figures tomorrow and given a few days/weeks, I'll have a look into some historical figures, they go back to July 1998. And for anyone asking, yes, I have too much time on my hands.

Good work mate. You got any of the PPV figures over the years?

davie wrote:
ITV
10/12/2005 Harrison-Williams 6.1million

Wow, 6 million people subjected to that?
No wonder ITV were reluctant to get back into boxing. That fight was terrible, enough to put the average casual fan off boxing for life.

Interesting why sky continue to do prizefighter when it seems such a ratings flop and rarely seems to deliver.

I think the original thought was 'let's bring in something different for the casual fan that they'll understand with one winner etc'.

But I don't know a single general (ie not specifically boxing) fan who has ever watched it.

davie wrote:found some figures from 2011

Sky
18/12/2011 - Ward-Froch - 248,000
11/12/2011 - Khan-Peterson - 237,000
12/09/2011 McCloskey-Prescott & Klitschko-Adamek - 193,000
16/07/2011 Murray-Mitchell - 190,000
07/05/2011 International Prizefighters Heavyweights - 170,000
02/12/2011 - Sturm-Murray - 141,000
25/06/2011 Brook-N'Dou & Sturm-Macklin - 133,000
03/12/2011 - Arron-Rose - 126,000
12/11/2011 - Vassell-Colomban - 123,000

Channel 5
23/07/2011 Chisora-Fury - 2,220,000
17/09/2011 Fury-Firtha - 1,030,000
12/11/2011 Fury-Pajkic - 1,736,000

ITV
10/12/2005 Harrison-Williams 6.1million
05/04/2008 Khan-Kristjansen 4.37 million
02/02/2008 Khan-St Clair 4.15 million
08/12/2007 Khan-Earl 4.14 million
21/06/2008 Khan-Gomez 3.98 million
and now
28/02/2015 Frampton-Avalos 1.9million

I'm not sure if Skys viewing figure have picked up in recent years, but when you compare them to the viewers Fury got on 5 and Khan and now Frampton get on ITV, it's a wonder Sky can compete and that terrestrial channels do not have a lot more invested in British boxing

Of course Sky can compete, they dont just rely on boxing, and they get millions in subscription revenue...

Sky Sports are only holding onto boxing (Matchroom) to appear more professional, they rely far more on Football, Darts, Tennis, F1 and Golf, and just throw in boxing to make themselves appear to be a more complete Sports channel! They will probably push hard for Mayweather vs Pac exactly for this reason!

Sky Sports will never hit the figures ITV or Channel 5 do, they prob only have about 5mil subscribers, so you would need a huge percentage of the potential viewing audience to tune in and that just wont happen with boxing!

If Anthony Joshua got a deal with ITV, he would probably bring in over 5mil viewers, due to his BBC Olympic exposure!

Does anyone know the viewing figures or number of subscribers for BoxN@tion???

1/2/14 Rees-Buckland 1 - No figure, less than 210,000. Sunday morning replay on SS3 had 24,000 viewers.

This tells me that with replays etc it's hard to work out exactly how many are viewing each fight night on skt.

jameswilson wrote: Good work mate. You got any of the PPV figures over the years?

Couldn't find Sky Box Office on BARB, so I'm assuming they don't report figures to them so the numbers don't get out publically. I'll find Hennessey, Maloney, Hatton and Frank's shows on Sky from 2012 tonight. After that I can go back to July 1998 on Sky and 2008 on terrestrial, which I'm assuming is down to the digital switchover.

reggaereggae wrote:Interesting why sky continue to do prizefighter when it seems such a ratings flop and rarely seems to deliver.

I think the original thought was 'let's bring in something different for the casual fan that they'll understand with one winner etc'.

But I don't know a single general (ie not specifically boxing) fan who has ever watched it.

I would guess that Matchroom are a big fan of it as it's a guaranteed profit. Sky might pay less for a Prizefighter than a normal show to keep them happy with it.

broomy7s wrote:1/2/14 Rees-Buckland 1 - No figure, less than 210,000. Sunday morning replay on SS3 had 24,000 viewers.

This tells me that with replays etc it's hard to work out exactly how many are viewing each fight night on skt.

Sky will know how many viewed it, but the figures are of the top 10 programmes from that week, some of them weren't in the top 10 so I couldn't see a figure.

Maloney
21/1/12 Price-McDermott - No figure, less than 159,000
25/2/12 Shafikov-McAllister - No figure, less than 161,000
3/3/12 McDonnell-Pozo - 173,000
31/3/12 Rose-Maxwell - No figure, less than 155,000
19/5/12 Price-Sexton - No figure, less than 234,000
2/6/12 Rose-Carslaw - 67,000(SS2)

Missed off Smith-Abraham 1 and 2 from the Matchroom figures, first fight did 108,000, second did 133,000 on SS3.

Frampton wasn't in the top 30 on ITV that week so no figure from his fight apart from the 2 millionish previously reported, lowest figure was 2.54 million.

Hatton
4/2/12 Quigg-Arthur - No figure, less than 177,000.
24/3/12 Buckland-Truscott - No figure, less than 121,000
21/4/12 Mathews-Crolla 1 - No figure, less than 111,000
16/6/12 Quigg-Munroe 1 - 89,000(SS2)

Hennessey
23/7/11 Fury-Chisora 1 - 2.22 million
17/9/11 Fury-Firtha - 1.03 million
12/11/11 Fury-Pajkic - 1.72 million
18/2/12 Galahad-Booth - 1.15 million
14/4/12 Fury-Rogan - 1.33 million
12/5/12 Lynes-Witter/Galahad-Wale - 880,000
7/7/12 Fury-Maddalone - 1.05 million
13/10/12 DeGale-Mohoumadi - 1.15 million
1/12/12 Fury-Johnson - 1.37 million
8/12/12 DeGale-Zuniga - 970,000
20/4/13 Fury-Cunningham - 1.54 million
8/6/13 DeGale-Bozic - 890,000
14/9/13 Galahad-Dickens - 880,000
16/11/13 DeGale-Davis - No figure, less than 810,000
1/3/14 DeGale-Khatchikian - 810,000
15/3/14 Francis-Ajisafe - No figure, less than 720,000
22/3/14 Galahad-Prado - No figure, less than 760,000
10/5/14 Galahad-Mundraby - No figure, less than 710,000
17/5/14 Dickinson-Clarkson - No figure, less than 570,000
20/9/14 Galahad-Dos Santos - No figure, less than 720,000
8/11/14 Ajisafe-Clarkson - No figure, less than 670,000

expe wrote:Hennessey
23/7/11 Fury-Chisora 1 - 2.22 million
17/9/11 Fury-Firtha - 1.03 million
12/11/11 Fury-Pajkic - 1.72 million
18/2/12 Galahad-Booth - 1.15 million
14/4/12 Fury-Rogan - 1.33 million
12/5/12 Lynes-Witter/Galahad-Wale - 880,000
7/7/12 Fury-Maddalone - 1.05 million
13/10/12 DeGale-Mohoumadi - 1.15 million
1/12/12 Fury-Johnson - 1.37 million
8/12/12 DeGale-Zuniga - 970,000
20/4/13 Fury-Cunningham - 1.54 million
8/6/13 DeGale-Bozic - 890,000
14/9/13 Galahad-Dickens - 880,000
16/11/13 DeGale-Davis - No figure, less than 810,000
1/3/14 DeGale-Khatchikian - 810,000
15/3/14 Francis-Ajisafe - No figure, less than 720,000
22/3/14 Galahad-Prado - No figure, less than 760,000
10/5/14 Galahad-Mundraby - No figure, less than 710,000
17/5/14 Dickinson-Clarkson - No figure, less than 570,000
20/9/14 Galahad-Dos Santos - No figure, less than 720,000
8/11/14 Ajisafe-Clarkson - No figure, less than 670,000

Seems a general downward trend there.

davie wrote:

expe wrote:Hennessey
23/7/11 Fury-Chisora 1 - 2.22 million
17/9/11 Fury-Firtha - 1.03 million
12/11/11 Fury-Pajkic - 1.72 million
18/2/12 Galahad-Booth - 1.15 million
14/4/12 Fury-Rogan - 1.33 million
12/5/12 Lynes-Witter/Galahad-Wale - 880,000
7/7/12 Fury-Maddalone - 1.05 million
13/10/12 DeGale-Mohoumadi - 1.15 million
1/12/12 Fury-Johnson - 1.37 million
8/12/12 DeGale-Zuniga - 970,000
20/4/13 Fury-Cunningham - 1.54 million
8/6/13 DeGale-Bozic - 890,000
14/9/13 Galahad-Dickens - 880,000
16/11/13 DeGale-Davis - No figure, less than 810,000
1/3/14 DeGale-Khatchikian - 810,000
15/3/14 Francis-Ajisafe - No figure, less than 720,000
22/3/14 Galahad-Prado - No figure, less than 760,000
10/5/14 Galahad-Mundraby - No figure, less than 710,000
17/5/14 Dickinson-Clarkson - No figure, less than 570,000
20/9/14 Galahad-Dos Santos - No figure, less than 720,000
8/11/14 Ajisafe-Clarkson - No figure, less than 670,000

Seems a general downward trend there.

DeGale bored everyone out of their minds on Channel 5 and the Maxinutrition tournament clearly didn't do as well as they would have hoped. Apart from Fury, who drew well everytime, Galahad and DeGale's best figures were with Eubank Jr on the undercard, don't think it's a coincidence that the viewing figures dropped off after him and Fury went to fight on other channels.

Been having a conversation with an American who was saying the PBC figure was amazing...sort of have to wonder what standard they are applying to "amazing".

Expe has done great work there finding out the UK stuff, I know Rigo/Amagsa + Ioka/Carrilo got 10m+ AND was counter programmed with another boxing card featuring Kono, Taguchi and Uchiyama (around 4M I think), Murata the day before got 8M (Inoue got 6M on the same show that had 2 figures reported).

Klitscho get's "millions" in Germany

I daren't think what some of the Chinese audiences are (I suspect the 200,000,000 is well off, but it'll still dwarf what the PBC stuff got), I believe Chris John was, at one point, the most watched fighter on the planet [his bouts aired in Indonesia on free TV, in the US and via international stream]).

I'd love to know what Channel 7 get for their almost weekly shows in Thailand (despite many of them being mismatches)