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fergusg wrote:

ikorolev wrote:

Chepppaaa wrote:ggg fights a guy with 000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000 power...6 kos in 19 fights hahaha that paulie malignaggi kind of power...l.why, why why ......why cant somebody like quillonor lemieaux step the ring with ggg....why this sparring match

Call DLH and ask why he is keeping Canelo and Lemieux away from GGG.

Please refer to the first post in this thread:
http://boxrec.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=22&t=188989

Chepppaaa wrote:

ikorolev wrote:Who else was available at this time ?

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that doesnt matter.

wait for somebody worth and not fight a tomato can.

hurricanemitch14 wrote:

crusader wrote:And Chep, next time you ramble about how good Wilder is keep in mind that his second best opponent has virtually the same KO percentage as Monroe

Chep is a boxing expert and he gets all of his predictions right.

hurricanemitch14 wrote:

ikorolev wrote:

Chepppaaa wrote:ggg fights a guy with 000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000 power...6 kos in 19 fights hahaha that paulie malignaggi kind of power...l.why, why why ......why cant somebody like quillonor lemieaux step the ring with ggg....why this sparring match

Call DLH and ask why he is keeping Canelo and Lemieux away from GGG.

ask ggg's peops why he's scared to fight the big boys at 168 instead of these clowns.
u say floyd is scared cuz he won't fight GGG a middleweight even tho floyd turned pro at feather....pac moved up like 8 divisions, bhop is kicking ass from middle to light heavy, the most overrated fighter rjj won titles from middle to heavy but the greatest fighter to ever compete in a combat sport ggg cant move up or down for big fights. he just stays put and fights 6ko's monroe. u r drinking the kool aid dude. we all dog Broner, myself included but he didn't get his ass whipped til he moved up from jl to welterweight. Do u know why these guys move up in weight????? Fame, Fortune and Greatness.

U just keep watching that poo. I like GGG but I am not watching any more of his fights until he fights somebody worth watching.

ikorolev wrote:

Chepppaaa wrote:

ikorolev wrote:Who else was available at this time ?

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that doesnt matter.

wait for somebody worth and not fight a tomato can.

So, Chavez can fight Vera or Fonfara, and Golovkin can't fight Monroe who schooled Vera ? Monroe's only loss was against the guy who KO'ed Stevenson, drawed with Kovalev and dropped Ward.

Chepppaaa wrote:

ikorolev wrote: So, Chavez can fight Vera or Fonfara, and Golovkin can't fight Monroe who schooled Vera ? Monroe's only loss was against the guy who KO'ed Stevenson, drawed with Kovalev and dropped Ward.

dont change the subject. doesnt matter what chavez does. the subject is not about him, but about ggg.

ikorolev wrote:

Chepppaaa wrote:

ikorolev wrote: So, Chavez can fight Vera or Fonfara, and Golovkin can't fight Monroe who schooled Vera ? Monroe's only loss was against the guy who KO'ed Stevenson, drawed with Kovalev and dropped Ward.

dont change the subject. doesnt matter what chavez does. the subject is not about him, but about ggg.

GGG was ready to fight Chavez, Froch, Canelo, Cotto, Lemieux, N'Dam, Lee, Quillin, Jackobs. Why are you blaming him instead of those guys ?

fergusg wrote:

ikorolev wrote:GGG was ready to fight Chavez, Froch, Canelo, Cotto, Lemieux, N'Dam, Lee, Quillin, Jackobs. Why are you blaming him instead of those guys ?

I’m going to ask you one simple question, which you can either answer from a Golovkin fanatic perspective or as a seemingly-experienced boxing observer.

With the exception of Al Haymon affiliated fighters that cannot face any HBO boxer, can you put your hand on your heart and lay claim to say the HBO & K2 have both done their upmost to fund big fights for Golovkin, considering the paydays that GGG & his opponents currently receive?

At what point do you draw the line and say enough is enough? Does he get a free pass for the rest of his life? He's been with HBO since 2012!

Just to be clear, I’m not questioning GGG’s talent, but almost three years’ worth of excuses from his managers and promoters is beginning to bore me senseless. There is no evidence whatsoever to lay claim that Gennady’s handlers are actively and seriously trying to orchestrate big fights for their charge. And I mean none, zilch, zero, zippo, nil, nada!

Any attempts that I have seen, have been seemingly half-hearted, as they tend to come with additional conditions to try to trap Gennady's opponents to contract extensions etc.

fergusg wrote:

ikorolev wrote:GGG was ready to fight Chavez, Froch, Canelo, Cotto, Lemieux, N'Dam, Lee, Quillin, Jackobs. Why are you blaming him instead of those guys ?

I’m going to ask you one simple question, which you can either answer from a Golovkin fanatic perspective or as a seemingly-experienced boxing observer.

With the exception of Al Haymon affiliated fighters that cannot face any HBO boxer, can you put your hand on your heart and lay claim to say the HBO & K2 have both done their upmost to fund big fights for Golovkin, considering the paydays that GGG & his opponents currently receive?

At what point do you draw the line and say enough is enough? Does he get a free pass for the rest of his life? He's been with HBO since 2012!

Just to be clear, I’m not questioning GGG’s talent, but almost three years’ worth of excuses from his managers and promoters is beginning to bore me senseless. There is no evidence whatsoever to lay claim that Gennady’s handlers are actively and seriously trying to orchestrate big fights for their charge. And I mean none, zilch, zero, zippo, nil, nada!

Any attempts that I have seen, have been seemingly half-hearted, as they tend to come with additional conditions to try to trap Gennady's opponents to contract extensions etc.

verballistic wrote:

crusader wrote:And Chep, next time you ramble about how good Wilder is keep in mind that his second best opponent has virtually the same KO percentage as Monroe

Yeah, but at least Wilder finally stepped up in comp vs Stiverne in his last bout, so he's moving in the right direction. I really dont think Monroe is as good as Martin Murray, so it does seem like a step down for GGG, when he should be moving in the other direction.

Chepppaaa wrote:

crusader wrote:

Chepppaaa wrote:why?

because it is bullshi/()ing the puplic. I mean is it that hard to understand? c level should fight c level and b level vs be level and a level should fight a level and when there is no a level around, than they should fight b level.

and with the statemant you made about korobov not having power or losing, than it shows me you realy dont get the point.
everybody loses!! also, korobov is a strong build 14 ko in 24 fights guy, has okay power and only lost 1 time against an champion. monroe in the opposite is a c level guy with no power who has 0 business in the ring with ggg. i would not even let him in the ring against ndam.

Korobov got knocked out in his last fight, which was also on HBO, and I think he needs to reestablish himself to have a case for being a better challenger than Monroe. Monroe has a lot to prove but he's young, on a solid winning streak, and in my opinion good enough to be fighting GGG given the circumstances. I don't see him being depicted as an excellent fighter who has a great chance of beating GGG, and people can easily put Monroe's name into Google, look at his record, and watch his fights online to draw their own conclusions about the bout.

Nothing would be a greater waste of time for GGG's career than not fighting.

i dont believe in staying active with boxing garbage, people pay money to watch a fight and not a total mismatch....

i believe in training and staying in shape and than boxing fights

cold187 wrote:problem is, there is no SMW fight available wither with a good name. top 2 ward and froch got their issued, dirrel bros got fights, the germans stay in germany and bika gone to LHW

it was always going to be between WMJ and heiland and johnson

WMJ is ranked in a few sanctioning bodies, the best thing about this fight is it stops people like quillin and other MW's cherry picking later so they have no option but to fight GGG

fergusg wrote:

ikorolev wrote:Golovkin would be a B side against Chavez, Froch, Canelo, Cotto, so it is those guys' promoters who are responsible for finding money.

Warriors boxing (funded by Al Haymon) outbid Eddie Hearn’s Matchroom when they submit a $3.1m purse bid to promote the Andre Dirrell vs. James DeGale fight, which will be staged in America. That means that both pugilists will likely earn $1.55m each.

Gennady Golovkin’s biggest payday of his career was the $900K he earned to blitz Marco Antonio Rubio.

The biggest payday a GGG opponent has received was the $600K that Daniel Geale was paid, which is a paltry sum compared to the sums that most top names are earning.

Al Haymon is dipping his hand into his own pockets in order to orchestrate big fights for the men in his stable. That is an irrefutable fact!

For some reason, HBO & K2 don’t seem willing to make Golovkin the A-side fighter by investing in their charge to make the biggest fights happen. Their strategy of doing nothing and waiting for opportunities to come to them simply isn’t working, which is a waste of Golovkin’s talent… and the clock is ticking!

At the end of the day… and I keep saying this, boxers are known as “PRIZE” fighters, not “PRIDE” fighters, which means there’s no motivation for any half-decent names to fight the Kazakh unless they’re going to get paid to do so.

Eddie Hearn eloquently articulated the reason why elite-level fighters are refusing the face Golovkin:

“It’s all well and good the fans say make this fight, but it would be like me saying to you, ‘I’ve got this job for you, but you won’t get paid anywhere near what you should be, but everyone wants you to do it, so do it.’ You’d turn round and go ‘F*** off!’”

So it’s time for HBO & K2 to stop matching their man, who’ll be 33 years old in a few weeks, against mid-tier anonymous fighters and instead invest in their charge whilst he’s still performing at the highest level… and make the biggest fights happen!

K2 & HBO cannot continue to make excuses if they’re refusing to fund the biggest fights!

ikorolev wrote:Monroe is not a journeyman. He is now worse than Quillin's last 3 opponents. ... and by the way, GGG fought his last 3 opponents during a 7-month period while it took Quillin 2 years. It is impossible to find high quality opponents if you fight 4 times a year, especially when you are a killing machine.

koolkc107 wrote: What happens if he has a bad night against a guy like Monroe?