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Thought Haymon was samoan.

I like Haymon cuz he puts on nothing but evenly matched fights and never has officials show favoritism towards his A fighters.

He's the best.

While most promoters become popular and rich because they make great matches, Haymon looks like he just has a monopoly of some sorts by babying his boxing clients and giving them easy matchups. It sucks for the fans, but it's good for his boxers and gives him and his boxers easy money.

No one is going to admit it, but some of the Haymon hate is racial.

But whatever ...

BAD INTENTIONS wrote:No one is going to admit it, but some of the Haymon hate is racial.

But whatever ...

I suspect that there are some people who dislike him largely or only due to him being black, but racism is projected in all directions and it's inane to suggest that most or all the 'hate' (I doubt many of the so-called haters feel that strongly) directed towards him is due to his race, as the OP has suggested before. Today people are so sensitive about race that it's difficult to have interracial interactions without someone ascribing racist sentiments to at least one of the actors, like when you accused people of being racist simply because they opined that Andre Ward fouls frequently.

Also, the affirmative action bit is rather strange, and negative generalizations like that are essence of racism and prejudice generally.

The Salka and Santana fights were necessary so we can have this epic 10 round catchweight between 2 fighters whom whoever loses will still be a world champion

hoagylt wrote:Three people put " because he is black" wow,2015 or 1915 ?

It's up to 5 and I'm sure I can pinpoint at least 2 or 3 of them but that's life when you've been brainwashed as a little child into believing what your ignorant parents, friends (and their parents) along with stereotypes from the media have controlled you into accepting then this is the results of a poll like this.

The only reason it isn't higher is because some people may be unwilling to express themselves in a poll.

KBB wrote:

hoagylt wrote:Three people put " because he is black" wow,2015 or 1915 ?

It's up to 5 and I'm sure I can pinpoint at least 2 or 3 of them but that's life when you've been brainwashed as a little child into believing what your ignorant parents, friends (and their parents) along with stereotypes from the media have controlled you into accepting then this is the results of a poll like this.

The only reason it isn't higher is because some people may be unwilling to express themselves in a poll.

Right, because everyone who picked that option has to be an outright racist and not someone who might simply be giving the OP the answer he wants.

Before you come back with a reply, I want you to know that I didn't see a good reason to answer the poll.

Baby Face Finster wrote:Right, because everyone who picked that option has to be an outright racist and not someone who might simply be giving the OP the answer he wants.

Before you come back with a reply, I want you to know that I didn't see a good reason to answer the poll.

Yes, that is exactly how racism works!! Picking an answer when the one you want isn't there is a better reason to avoid it altogether but anyone who chose to answer with that answer (obviously you are one of them) is a bigoted and racist piece of sh*t.

BAD INTENTIONS wrote:No one is going to admit it, but some of the Haymon hate is racial.

But whatever ...

No one is going to admit it, but some of the Arum hate is racial.

But whatever ...


On a side.... Have you ever heard anyone say they hate Michael Jordan?

crusader wrote:

BAD INTENTIONS wrote:No one is going to admit it, but some of the Haymon hate is racial.

But whatever ...

I suspect that there are some people who dislike him largely or only due to him being black, but racism is projected in all directions and it's inane to suggest that most or all the 'hate' (I doubt many of the so-called haters feel that strongly) directed towards him is due to his race, as the OP has suggested before. Today people are so sensitive about race that it's difficult to have interracial interactions without someone ascribing racist sentiments to at least one of the actors, like when you accused people of being racist simply because they opined that Andre Ward fouls frequently.

Also, the affirmative action bit is rather strange, and negative generalizations like that are essence of racism and prejudice generally.

I don't know why people deny the significant levels of racism that still exists in the world. Hate groups are growing in the US and Europe (so they say). Also, much of the racist views in the world are hidden within nationalism or whatever "pride" people choose to profess.

Impractical Poster wrote:

BAD INTENTIONS wrote:No one is going to admit it, but some of the Haymon hate is racial.

But whatever ...

No one is going to admit it, but some of the Arum hate is racial.

But whatever ...


On a side.... Have you ever heard anyone say they hate Michael Jordan?

Good one

BAD INTENTIONS wrote: I don't know why people deny the significant levels of racism that still exists in the world. Hate groups are growing in the US and Europe (so they say). Also, much of the racist views in the world are hidden within nationalism or whatever "pride" people choose to profess.

It makes people feel the world is better than it is I think. I would say "significant" isn't necessarily how I'd angle it. I think racism & other "ism's" are probably at an all time low in society's history, which is obviously a great thing. BUT it still exists.

With all the PED conversations I've had here (I'm pro PED's, ~99% of people here are anti-PEDs lol) I think maybe this ease of denial many have could stem from some sort of desire to believe the world is more just than it is. In some cases people may not wanna believe they haven't gained from a uneven playing field cuz that'd make them realize maybe they aren't as awesome as they'd like to believe. Basically like they've been fed racial PEDs for their entire life for lack of a better name lol. Or nationalist PEDs, cuz anyone in the US or Europe gots it pretty f#cking nice in comparison to some of the other sh!tholes in the world.

Idk just my guess. I'm sure there is a TED talk with someone who's figured this out with much more thought put into it & research to provide than I have for my opinion.

Impractical Poster wrote:

BAD INTENTIONS wrote:No one is going to admit it, but some of the Haymon hate is racial.

But whatever ...

No one is going to admit it, but some of the Arum hate is racial.

But whatever ...


On a side.... Have you ever heard anyone say they hate Michael Jordan?

Actually I have, basketball is competitive as f#ck bruh. But mainly I've heard in the racial context by certain people "he's one of the good ones" or similar remarks more often.

ReggieDiggs wrote:

Impractical Poster wrote:

No one is going to admit it, but some of the Arum hate is racial.

But whatever ...


On a side.... Have you ever heard anyone say they hate Michael Jordan?

Actually I have, basketball is competitive as f#ck bruh. But mainly I've heard in the racial context by certain people "he's one of the good ones" or similar remarks more often.

I've heard similar contexts by certain black people referring to white people. I've got a co-worker who reads a lot of books dealing with racism and inequality. According to him,, I'm one of the good ones. I'm so proud of myself.

KBB wrote:

Baby Face Finster wrote:Right, because everyone who picked that option has to be an outright racist and not someone who might simply be giving the OP the answer he wants.

Before you come back with a reply, I want you to know that I didn't see a good reason to answer the poll.

Yes, that is exactly how racism works!! Picking an answer when the one you want isn't there is a better reason to avoid it altogether but anyone who chose to answer with that answer (obviously you are one of them) is a bigoted and racist piece of sh*t.

If anyone is a racist piece of shit it would undoubtedly have to be you. Besides being a racist POS you are also a retard as you obviously couldn't understand what I typed. Stop projecting your own insecurities unto others.

Baby Face Finster wrote:If anyone is a racist piece of shit it would undoubtedly have to be you. Besides being a racist POS you are also a retard as you obviously couldn't understand what I typed. Stop projecting your own insecurities unto others.

So let me get this straight, I said "5 people picked because he's black" and you came back with this; "Right, because everyone who picked that option has to be an outright racist and not someone who might simply be giving the OP the answer he wants."

That doesn't sound like a sarcastic answer to me, it sounded as though you agreed that none of the other options were not fitting so you settled with that one and if you truly did then you are a punk, racists bigot.

KBB wrote:

Baby Face Finster wrote:If anyone is a racist piece of shit it would undoubtedly have to be you. Besides being a racist POS you are also a retard as you obviously couldn't understand what I typed. Stop projecting your own insecurities unto others.

So let me get this straight, I said "5 people picked because he's black" and you came back with this; "Right, because everyone who picked that option has to be an outright racist and not someone who might simply be giving the OP the answer he wants."

That doesn't sound like a sarcastic answer to me, it sounded as though you agreed that none of the other options were not fitting so you settled with that one and if you truly did then you are a punk, racists bigot.

Kbb I refused to answer because this was nothing more than race baiting.
I can see some people marking black to be sarcastic.but I can
Also see some idiot being a dick.
More than likely it was marked to be sarcastic

tiny_acres wrote:

KBB wrote:

Baby Face Finster wrote:If anyone is a racist piece of shit it would undoubtedly have to be you. Besides being a racist POS you are also a retard as you obviously couldn't understand what I typed. Stop projecting your own insecurities unto others.

So let me get this straight, I said "5 people picked because he's black" and you came back with this; "Right, because everyone who picked that option has to be an outright racist and not someone who might simply be giving the OP the answer he wants."

That doesn't sound like a sarcastic answer to me, it sounded as though you agreed that none of the other options were not fitting so you settled with that one and if you truly did then you are a punk, racists bigot.

Kbb I refused to answer because this was nothing more than race baiting.
I can see some people marking black to be sarcastic.but I can
Also see some idiot being a dick.
More than likely it was marked to be sarcastic

That's why I basically challenge it, to see if it was one or the other. That isn't race baiting, if anything what was stated in bold can be considered "race baiting" not my response(s) to it.

Sorry for the delayed response but I've been busy at work. This isn't a troll post, this is serious. Those calling me a troll and this a race baiting topic are the ones I'm talking about and if you look thru their comment history you'll see they are the ones with irrational hate for Haymon and/or comparing him to Don't King.

We live in a country where the majority House Whip has spoken in front of racist hate groups and still has a job. We just saw a video of college fraternity students, the future police, judges, prosecutors, human resources, ect, singing racist song and using derogatory racist names. This is what goes on being closed doors on white America. Of course they don't think they're racist but they have built in biases.

benion wrote:Sorry for the delayed response but I've been busy at work. This isn't a troll post, this is serious. Those calling me a troll and this a race baiting topic are the ones I'm talking about and if you look thru their comment history you'll see they are the ones with irrational hate for Haymon and/or comparing him to Don't King.

We live in a country where the majority House Whip has spoken in front of racist hate groups and still has a job. We just saw a video of college fraternity students, the future police, judges, prosecutors, human resources, ect, singing racist song and using derogatory racist names. This is what goes on being closed doors on white America. Of course they don't think they're racist but they have built in biases.

Lies. From a fornicating liar.
I have called this race baiting and have not posted a single hate post toward Haymon.

You are a race baiting fucked who needs banned for your bullshit

tiny_acres wrote:

benion wrote:Sorry for the delayed response but I've been busy at work. This isn't a troll post, this is serious. Those calling me a troll and this a race baiting topic are the ones I'm talking about and if you look thru their comment history you'll see they are the ones with irrational hate for Haymon and/or comparing him to Don't King.

We live in a country where the majority House Whip has spoken in front of racist hate groups and still has a job. We just saw a video of college fraternity students, the future police, judges, prosecutors, human resources, ect, singing racist song and using derogatory racist names. This is what goes on being closed doors on white America. Of course they don't think they're racist but they have built in biases.

Lies. From a effing liar.
I have called this race baiting and have not posted a single hate post toward Haymon.

You are a race baiting fucked who needs banned for your bullshit

Of course you want me banned. We gotta make sure white people don't feel uncomfortable, especially white males. They tell us what's offensive and what's not and anything that makes them uncomfortable needs to be banned!

benion wrote:

tiny_acres wrote:

benion wrote:Sorry for the delayed response but I've been busy at work. This isn't a troll post, this is serious. Those calling me a troll and this a race baiting topic are the ones I'm talking about and if you look thru their comment history you'll see they are the ones with irrational hate for Haymon and/or comparing him to Don't King.

We live in a country where the majority House Whip has spoken in front of racist hate groups and still has a job. We just saw a video of college fraternity students, the future police, judges, prosecutors, human resources, ect, singing racist song and using derogatory racist names. This is what goes on being closed doors on white America. Of course they don't think they're racist but they have built in biases.

Lies. From a effing liar.
I have called this race baiting and have not posted a single hate post toward Haymon.

You are a race baiting fucked who needs banned for your bullshit

Of course you want me banned. We gotta make sure white people don't feel uncomfortable, especially white males. They tell us what's offensive and what's not and anything that makes them uncomfortable needs to be banned!

This is a boxing site. Not some place to spew your bullshit.
stick to boxing

We live in a country where the majority House Whip has spoken in front of racist hate groups and still has a job. We just saw a video of college fraternity students, the future police, judges, prosecutors, human resources, ect, singing racist song and using derogatory racist names. This is what goes on being closed doors on white America. Of course they don't think they're racist but they have built in biases.[/quote]


Lies. From a effing liar.
I have called this race baiting and have not posted a single hate post toward Haymon.

You are a race baiting fucked who needs banned for your bullshit[/quote]

Of course you want me banned. We gotta make sure white people don't feel uncomfortable, especially white males. They tell us what's offensive and what's not and anything that makes them uncomfortable needs to be banned![/quote]

This is a boxing site. Not some place to spew your bullshit.
stick to boxing[/quote]

tiny_acres wrote:

benion wrote:Sorry for the delayed response but I've been busy at work. This isn't a troll post, this is serious. Those calling me a troll and this a race baiting topic are the ones I'm talking about and if you look thru their comment history you'll see they are the ones with irrational hate for Haymon and/or comparing him to Don't King.

We live in a country where the majority House Whip has spoken in front of racist hate groups and still has a job. We just saw a video of college fraternity students, the future police, judges, prosecutors, human resources, ect, singing racist song and using derogatory racist names. This is what goes on being closed doors on white America. Of course they don't think they're racist but they have built in biases.

Lies. From a effing liar.
I have called this race baiting and have not posted a single hate post toward Haymon.

You are a race baiting fucked who needs banned for your bullshit

Lies lol. Brother you can google some of the stuff in the second paragraph so idk that its race baiting or lies so much as just some sh!t thats happened like it or not. There are biases against people of different races like it or not or of that belief in your personal life or not. It is what it is. And its a reality. To deny its a reality you must be living in a very insulated environment

I voted option 1 but i can't help feeling i was tricked