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Re: who showed promise in the amateurs..BUT

Posted: 04 Apr 2015, 17:59
by Broomhall
100s really. a lot of ABA champs or Olmpic reps turn pro, very few make it. You could probably write 2 or 300 names if you really stopped to think about it. Go on the ABAE website and look on the list of champions from each year. Sobering really.

Re: who showed promise in the amateurs..BUT

Posted: 05 Apr 2015, 07:38
by reggaereggae
TheGoods wrote:Alan Temple.
That is my pick. He looked great in the Abas but ended up a journeyman type.

Who was the amateur star who got into gear and never really got out the blocks? Danny Costello I think.....

Re: who showed promise in the amateurs..BUT

Posted: 05 Apr 2015, 07:44
by reggaereggae
Oh if you're talking internationally, Kelcie Banks

Re: who showed promise in the amateurs..BUT

Posted: 05 Apr 2015, 08:15
by littlepug
Always thought Alex moon would go on to do more than he did, boxed him in the ams and was strong as eff.

Re: who showed promise in the amateurs..BUT

Posted: 05 Apr 2015, 08:20
by palooka
Peter Richardson, Kelly Oliver.

Re: who showed promise in the amateurs..BUT

Posted: 05 Apr 2015, 08:24
by reggaereggae
reggaereggae wrote:Oh if you're talking internationally, Kelcie Banks
And Paul Gonzales.

Did anyone mention Tony Jeffries and Errol Christie?

Re: who showed promise in the amateurs..BUT

Posted: 05 Apr 2015, 12:36
by palooka
Allan Hall, Anthony Todd.

Re: who showed promise in the amateurs..BUT

Posted: 05 Apr 2015, 13:20
by Old bones Ian
229 gold medals given out in the olympic boxing, only 38 world title winners from that, 28 of them since 1976. Since a lot of winners were from the old eastern block or Cuba, its not such a shocking stat in some ways.

Terry Spinks won gold in 1956, his title as a pro was British feather. So would that be called failing at pro boxing?
DeGale looks our best hope to be the first British gold medalist to win a world title.

Also who was the big punching amateur that had a few pro fights, but had to retire because of scan or eye problems. He was mentioned in a thread before, but can't think of his name.

Re: who showed promise in the amateurs..BUT

Posted: 05 Apr 2015, 13:55
by palooka
Tommy Shiels?

Re: who showed promise in the amateurs..BUT

Posted: 05 Apr 2015, 15:48
by James Harte
Michael Maguire ( Kettering SOB)

Re: who showed promise in the amateurs..BUT

Posted: 05 Apr 2015, 16:09
by Old bones Ian
palooka wrote:Tommy Shiels?
That's the one, thanks

Re: who showed promise in the amateurs..BUT

Posted: 05 Apr 2015, 16:16
by Bleak
Mario Culpepper

Re: who showed promise in the amateurs..BUT

Posted: 05 Apr 2015, 16:20
by bripez
At all ages and weights etc. how many national amateur champions are there each year ? - there must be hundreds.

Over a 10 year period the number will be thousands, and only a very small number of those will become top pros (ie. British title level or above).

There are also a lot of successful juniors who don't have the same success as seniors, let alone as a pro.

Re: who showed promise in the amateurs..BUT

Posted: 05 Apr 2015, 16:37
by palooka
Tommy Peacock, Denny Lear, Darren Macarrick and as someone else mentioned Mark Ramsey and Paul Denton were excellent amateurs and very smooth boxers and powerful punchers.

Re: who showed promise in the amateurs..BUT

Posted: 06 Apr 2015, 05:09
by manno
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Old bones Ian wrote:229 gold medals given out in the olympic boxing, only 38 world title winners from that, 28 of them since 1976. Since a lot of winners were from the old eastern block or Cuba, its not such a shocking stat in some ways.

Terry Spinks won gold in 1956, his title as a pro was British feather. So would that be called failing at pro boxing?
DeGale looks our best hope to be the first British gold medalist to win a world title.

Also who was the big punching amateur that had a few pro fights, but had to retire because of scan or eye problems. He was mentioned in a thread before, but can't think of his name.
This is a great post reguarding Spinks Ian. Normally when a fighter retires they gain more appreciation and plaudits years after they hung up the gloves, paradoxically I think Spinks was probably lauded more in his pomp as back then the British title was seen as THE BELT to have round your waist and if you were lucky enough youd earn a few quid challenging for euro or world titles. London was very much the epicentre of boxing in britain and to cap it all Spinks was a genuine cockney. Imo I would look back and think Terry neither over nor under achieved but had an ok career.

Re: who showed promise in the amateurs..BUT

Posted: 06 Apr 2015, 05:23
by mickey1975
palooka wrote:Allan Hall, Anthony Todd.
My mate boxed Todd. He was outstanding in the early 90's. Moved on to other things, though.

Re: who showed promise in the amateurs..BUT

Posted: 06 Apr 2015, 06:59
by Coco
Dominic Bergonzi

Re: who showed promise in the amateurs..BUT

Posted: 06 Apr 2015, 08:14
by rpms
palooka wrote:Tommy Peacock, Denny Lear, Darren Macarrick and as someone else mentioned Mark Ramsey and Paul Denton were excellent amateurs and very smooth boxers and powerful punchers.
Peacock was ruined by a rampant Hatton wasn't he,love watching the end of that fight.
Was so impressed by McCarrick's destruction of my mate Adrian Stone in the ABA's,Darren turned pro in the USA and is back here involved with the AM's again apparently.
Craig Dermody is the one that still annoys me,the guy was so talented and from a great camp too.

Re: who showed promise in the amateurs..BUT

Posted: 06 Apr 2015, 08:23
by palooka
Bradley Welsh was a better amateur than pro, Mark Elliott as well.

Re: who showed promise in the amateurs..BUT

Posted: 06 Apr 2015, 08:57
by kamicazze
Kevin evans made numerous commonwealth games yet never turned pro. Chris lawson Olympic box offs yet was a pro gatekeeper. More recently Neil Perkins could be one too

Re: who showed promise in the amateurs..BUT

Posted: 06 Apr 2015, 14:46
by Roco
Why did Andy McLean turn back amateur?

Re: who showed promise in the amateurs..BUT

Posted: 07 Apr 2015, 10:23
by pyenest77
G0mez wrote:Liverpool's Neil Perkins did well as an amateur, world bronze.

6-0 as a professional but not afforded much coverage so far.

Hopefully he gets a few more outings under his belt in the next 12 months and into a interesting domestic fight with a Beefy Smith/ Brian Rose type fighter.

Tidy boxer.
He is getting on a bit now is Neil maybe turned over a bit late?

Re: who showed promise in the amateurs..BUT

Posted: 07 Apr 2015, 10:25
by pyenest77
Bleak wrote:Mario Culpepper
Saw him at Wythenshawe Forum (I think) & he was class read somewhere he got mixed up in drugs.

Re: who showed promise in the amateurs..BUT

Posted: 07 Apr 2015, 10:50
by palooka
pyenest77 wrote:
Bleak wrote:Mario Culpepper
Saw him at Wythenshawe Forum (I think) & he was class read somewhere he got mixed up in drugs.
Think he moved to Glasgow but got caught up in the gang thing that was big around Moss Side years ago.

Re: who showed promise in the amateurs..BUT

Posted: 07 Apr 2015, 10:54
by palooka
Gary Mayor did well a couple of weeks ago, there was a write up in Boxing News.