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koolkc107 wrote:One of Mayweather's sparring partners opines on Mayweather's punching power, and other things.

BTW, if this is from yesterday (and I am not sure exactly when video was shot but it was posted yesterday) then so much for Flappy Bob's "Floyd can't spar because of a cut lip" story.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TW7MB_qH0jc

A very honest interview and it appears the kid didn't want to say anything bad about Manny, Roach or the Wild Card gym. These are the types of interviews you can lay your hat on.

Stop making excuses for Golovkin. If he wants a fight with smaller guys like Pac and Floyd, he is going to have to at least meet them halfway.

I don't recall Mayweather or Pacquiao's team issuing a challenge for GGG to move down to 154. Or calling his (GGG) bluff. In recent post fight interviews by GGG I recall the name Cotto more so than the other two. Cotto is fighting at GGG's weight. I don't recall Cotto's team issuing a challenge either. At one time GGG did say he would move down to 154 to get the big fight. But that was then. I wouldn't put much substance into thinking a fight between GGG and or Mayweather Pacquiao realistically will ever happen.

MachoTime wrote:

Stop making excuses for Golovkin. If he wants a fight with smaller guys like Pac and Floyd, he is going to have to at least meet them halfway.

I don't recall Mayweather or Pacquiao's team issuing a challenge for GGG to move down to 154. Or calling his (GGG) bluff. In recent post fight interviews by GGG I recall the name Cotto more so than the other two. Cotto is fighting at GGG's weight. I don't recall Cotto's team issuing a challenge either. At one time GGG did say he would move down to 154 to get the big fight. But that was then. I wouldn't put much substance into thinking a fight between GGG and or Mayweather Pacquiao realistically will ever happen.

FAIL

This is GGG about 3 weeks ago still talking about making 154.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=czfNgmO3JdE

koolkc107 wrote:

MachoTime wrote:

Stop making excuses for Golovkin. If he wants a fight with smaller guys like Pac and Floyd, he is going to have to at least meet them halfway.

I don't recall Mayweather or Pacquiao's team issuing a challenge for GGG to move down to 154. Or calling his (GGG) bluff. In recent post fight interviews by GGG I recall the name Cotto more so than the other two. Cotto is fighting at GGG's weight. I don't recall Cotto's team issuing a challenge either. At one time GGG did say he would move down to 154 to get the big fight. But that was then. I wouldn't put much substance into thinking a fight between GGG and or Mayweather Pacquiao realistically will ever happen.

FAIL

This is GGG about 3 weeks ago still talking about making 154.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=czfNgmO3JdE

Boxers say lots of things. What did you expect him to say. Do you expect him to just drop the weight and say here I'am? It's all talk and pure speculation.

koolkc107 wrote:FAIL This is GGG about 3 weeks ago still talking about making 154. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=czfNgmO3JdE

LOL, you busted him out with that FAIL,

By now we should all know that 3G is willing to fight Cotto, Mayweather or Pacquiao but is only a MW when it comes to talking moving up and facing Ward!!

KBB wrote:

koolkc107 wrote:FAIL This is GGG about 3 weeks ago still talking about making 154. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=czfNgmO3JdE

LOL, you busted him out with that FAIL,

By now we should all know that 3G is willing to fight Cotto, Mayweather or Pacquiao but is only a MW when it comes to talking moving up and facing Ward!!

He knows it.

I get it now, Macho.

Don't hold GGG to anything he says, even if he repeats it over and over again for years.

And even if he is still saying it.

Flomos getting dumber by the minute. KBB might have a slight IQ advantage over that guy....like 2 or 3 points

Rodian wrote:Flomos getting dumber by the minute. KBB might have a slight IQ advantage over that guy....like 2 or 3 points

This post is actually borderline cretinous.

You know YOU DO have the option of actually having a boxing take...

KBB wrote:

koolkc107 wrote:FAIL This is GGG about 3 weeks ago still talking about making 154. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=czfNgmO3JdE

LOL, you busted him out with that FAIL,

By now we should all know that 3G is willing to fight Cotto, Mayweather or Pacquiao but is only a MW when it comes to talking moving up and facing Ward!!

Whatever Brut. You believe what you want to believe. Ward has not fought in 2 years. You hate GGG we get it. So does the other guy.

MachoTime wrote:

KBB wrote:

koolkc107 wrote:FAIL This is GGG about 3 weeks ago still talking about making 154. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=czfNgmO3JdE

LOL, you busted him out with that FAIL,

By now we should all know that 3G is willing to fight Cotto, Mayweather or Pacquiao but is only a MW when it comes to talking moving up and facing Ward!!

Whatever Brut. You believe what you want to believe. Ward has not fought in 2 years. You hate GGG we get it. So does the other guy.

I don't hate GGG.

I am hoping he is takes his place as an ATG.

But, you have to do ATG things to be an ATG.

And so far, Golovkin has shown a knack for avoiding those challenges.

He's been called out by Lara, for chrissakes! And blinked.

MachoTime wrote:Whatever Brut. You believe what you want to believe. Ward has not fought in 2 years. You hate GGG we get it. So does the other guy.

Where did I say I hate GGG?? Show us, we are waiting....................................

So let me get this straight, if someone says the truth about GGG then that is the equivalent of hate?? The problem that people like you have is that people like us (Kool and me) we see things for what they are, GGG hasn't really beaten anyone to be deserving of being in the conversation with the likes of Manny, Floyd or Andre.

Sure GGG is good at what he does and it isn't his fault that many are ducking him at MW but IMHO this is all the more reason for him to move up and face Ward or others like Lara, Ward and Dirrell who has called him out instead of talking about moving down to face Pacquiao and Mayweather or even Cotto.

That is my only problem with GGG, when he finally zaps someone who isn't used goods and has the degree of boxing and pedigree to go along with it then I will give him the accolades you guys have already heaped upon him now without doing this.

KBB wrote:

MachoTime wrote:Whatever Brut. You believe what you want to believe. Ward has not fought in 2 years. You hate GGG we get it. So does the other guy.

Where did I say I hate GGG?? Show us, we are waiting....................................

So let me get this straight, if someone says the truth about GGG then that is the equivalent of hate?? The problem that people like you have is that people like us (Kool and me) we see things for what they are, GGG hasn't really beaten anyone to be deserving of being in the conversation with the likes of Manny, Floyd or Andre.

Sure GGG is good at what he does and it isn't his fault that many are ducking him at MW but IMHO this is all the more reason for him to move up and face Ward or others like Lara, Ward and Dirrell who has called him out instead of talking about moving down to face Pacquiao and Mayweather or even Cotto.

That is my only problem with GGG, when he finally zaps someone who isn't used goods and has the degree of boxing and pedigree to go along with it then I will give him the accolades you guys have already heaped upon him now without doing this.

Exactly!

Hell, I don't even dismiss a fight with Pac or Floyd.

But, to expect natural welters to move up to middleweight is a choice the fighters themselves should make, not have any fanboy cry over them not doing so.

And since we are living in a time where there is a legit middle ground, fairness says that is where a fight would be held.

In addition, GGG himself says he'd fight at 154...less than a month ago.

Why shouldn't he prove it first before he gets a fight with either guy?

koolkc107 wrote:Exactly!

Hell, I don't even dismiss a fight with Pac or Floyd.

But, to expect natural welters to move up to middleweight is a choice the fighters themselves should make, not have any fanboy cry over them not doing so.

And since we are living in a time where there is a legit middle ground, fairness says that is where a fight would be held.

In addition, GGG himself says he'd fight at 154...less than a month ago.

Why shouldn't he prove it first before he gets a fight with either guy?

Now we will both be considered not only Haters but the Ultimate Haters for telling it like it is, somehow their blinded fanboy love for 3G won't allow them to see him for what he is and that's just too bad because when I was younger people saw boxers who avoided fights that are readily on the table with no excuses to stop them from making them as the ducks they truly were. The fighters at 60 are ducking him, so why not move up??

I'm not saying 3G is ducking anyone but he sure isn't running up the flagpole to make those fights with the bigger guys happen or even Lara (who called him out) but he is all too willing to take Manny or Floyd as he stated at 154.

Dirrell wants him at their weight, did he even bother mentioning him?

Ward wants him at a higher weight, is he mentioning in every interview that he is willing to go to 68 to face him?

Lara would even be willing to make the fight happen at 154 the same weight he wants Manny and Floyd but is he clamoring for a piece of him??

I wish people could just keep it real.

KBB wrote:

koolkc107 wrote:Exactly!

Hell, I don't even dismiss a fight with Pac or Floyd.

But, to expect natural welters to move up to middleweight is a choice the fighters themselves should make, not have any fanboy cry over them not doing so.

And since we are living in a time where there is a legit middle ground, fairness says that is where a fight would be held.

In addition, GGG himself says he'd fight at 154...less than a month ago.

Why shouldn't he prove it first before he gets a fight with either guy?

Now we will both be considered not only Haters but the Ultimate Haters for telling it like it is, somehow their blinded fanboy love for 3G won't allow them to see him for what he is and that's just too bad because when I was younger people saw boxers who avoided fights that are readily on the table with no excuses to stop them from making them as the ducks they truly were. The fighters at 60 are ducking him, so why not move up??

I'm not saying 3G is ducking anyone but he sure isn't running up the flagpole to make those fights with the bigger guys happen or even Lara (who called him out) but he is all too willing to take Manny or Floyd as he stated at 154.

Dirrell wants him at their weight, did he even bother mentioning him?

Ward wants him at a higher weight, is he mentioning in every interview that he is willing to go to 68 to face him?

Lara would even be willing to make the fight happen at 154 the same weight he wants Manny and Floyd but is he clamoring for a piece of him??

I wish people could just keep it real.

Lara actually said he go up to 160 if he had to as well.

I LIKE GGG.

Which is why I want him to do everything he should to make real the hype that now defines him.

Take the challenges. Be the truth.

Just imagine if he went to 168 and actually beat Ward or Froch.

He would have a legit claim at P4P #1. Who could say different?

THAT is what I want from GGG. I am a boxing fan first and foremost.

I want to see greatness in my sport wherever and whenever it can be had.

koolkc107 wrote:Lara actually said he go up to 160 if he had to as well.

I LIKE GGG.

Which is why I want him to do everything he should to make real the hype that now defines him.

Take the challenges. Be the truth.

Just imagine if he went to 168 and actually beat Ward or Froch.

He would have a legit claim at P4P #1. Who could say different?

THAT is what I want from GGG. I am a boxing fan first and foremost.

I want to see greatness in my sport wherever and whenever it can be had.

Very well stated, the same standards that apply to guys like Khan (who we're asking to earn his way into facing the best) should be the same for 3G who is trying to earn his but many of the guys at 60 are ducking him, it's right for him to move up and take on the best and if he's unwilling to do that then he should face Lara at 54 since he was willing to go there for Manny or Floyd.

In was happy for Hagler to remain middleweight champion and defend against all comers, Hagler was a great champion who ruled his division; I'm just as happy for Golovkin to rule at middleweight and be a great middleweight champion; he doesn't need to move up to face men who have to cut weight to get down to the supermiddle division limit.

KBB wrote:

koolkc107 wrote:Lara actually said he go up to 160 if he had to as well.

I LIKE GGG.

Which is why I want him to do everything he should to make real the hype that now defines him.

Take the challenges. Be the truth.

Just imagine if he went to 168 and actually beat Ward or Froch.

He would have a legit claim at P4P #1. Who could say different?

THAT is what I want from GGG. I am a boxing fan first and foremost.

I want to see greatness in my sport wherever and whenever it can be had.

Very well stated, the same standards that apply to guys like Khan (who we're asking to earn his way into facing the best) should be the same for 3G who is trying to earn his but many of the guys at 60 are ducking him, it's right for him to move up and take on the best and if he's unwilling to do that then he should face Lara at 54 since he was willing to go there for Manny or Floyd.

That's what his biggest fans should want for him too.

If Floyd was shooting off his mouth saying he could take on anyone from 140 to 160, I'd be the first guy to call him on it if he failed to step up, do everything he needed to do to get in against a great fighter in those weights.

Are you asking the same of Andre Ward? Why doesn't Andre go up to Light Heavyweight since he has cleared out 168? You probably don't expect the same of him as you do of Triple G.

Baby Face Finster wrote:Are you asking the same of Andre Ward? Why doesn't Andre go up to Light Heavyweight since he has cleared out 168? You probably don't expect the same of him as you do of Triple G.

I'd love to see Ward go in against Sergei or Adonis.

But again, apples and oranges.

Ward is not saying "anyone from 160 to cruiser".

koolkc107 wrote:

Baby Face Finster wrote:Are you asking the same of Andre Ward? Why doesn't Andre go up to Light Heavyweight since he has cleared out 168? You probably don't expect the same of him as you do of Triple G.

I'd love to see Ward go in against Sergei or Adonis.

But again, apples and oranges.

Ward is not saying "anyone from 160 to cruiser".

So because he doesn't say it you shouldn't expect it from him? Is that what you are saying? You would prefer he face nobodies at 168 than to challenge himself right?

Baby Face Finster wrote:Are you asking the same of Andre Ward? Why doesn't Andre go up to Light Heavyweight since he has cleared out 168? You probably don't expect the same of him as you do of Triple G.

I do expect Ward to move up but technically speaking he hasn't cleared out 68 yet, JCC Jr is waiting for him and I believe after both of their upcoming fights they will probably make this fight happen.

The problem is that you cannot make a comparison to 3G and Ward, Andre has cleaned out his division to most people, Golovkin due to no fault of his own hasn't done that yet and still has people lining up to face him at a slightly higher weight and since he doesn't have a good fight lined up with anyone at his own weight then he should be willing to go up as much as he's talked about moving down.

Baby Face Finster wrote:

koolkc107 wrote:

Baby Face Finster wrote:Are you asking the same of Andre Ward? Why doesn't Andre go up to Light Heavyweight since he has cleared out 168? You probably don't expect the same of him as you do of Triple G.

I'd love to see Ward go in against Sergei or Adonis.

But again, apples and oranges.

Ward is not saying "anyone from 160 to cruiser".

So because he doesn't say it you shouldn't expect it from him? Is that what you are saying? You would prefer he face nobodies at 168 than to challenge himself right?

Of course he should eventually face those in the next weight class.

Like every great fighter has.

But, there are still great fights for him at 168, very makeable fights.

And, he says he is content at 168.

By contrast, GGG and his handlers are acting like no one important will fight him at 160 while at the same time saying "anyone in 4 weight classes"

2 entirely different situations make for 2 different types of expectations when it comes to what the boxer should do NOW.

What makeable great fights does Ward have at 168?

Floyd is in trouble. A thread about him transformed into one about GGG. Before, it was vice versa.

koolkc107 wrote: By contrast, GGG and his handlers are acting like no one important will fight him at 160 while at the same time saying "anyone in 4 weight classes"

koolkc107 is a liar. GGG team only talks about 154 and 168 and only for PPV fights, and no PPV worth opponent is willing to fight him.