This, I actually can't believe this is being discussed.Crease wrote:X 2mickey1975 wrote:This is horrendous.
My mate told me about this fight was being talked about when I seen him a couple of hours ago... I was convinced that he was having a laugh at my expense... Guess I owe him a pint now.
Andre Ward v...Paul Smith??!
Re: Andre Ward v...Paul Smith??!
Re: Andre Ward v...Paul Smith??!
Why not? Ward will have been out of the ring for over 18 months by the time of his next fight.Crazyboy wrote:This, I actually can't believe this is being discussed.
Smith is a top 20 level guy in the division. What is so crazy about Ward fighting him on his comeback?
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ok mate, ward v smith is a great fight...........Horse wrote:Why not? Ward will have been out of the ring for over 18 months by the time of his next fight.Crazyboy wrote:This, I actually can't believe this is being discussed.
Smith is a top 20 level guy in the division. What is so crazy about Ward fighting him on his comeback?
Re: Andre Ward v...Paul Smith??!
I'm pleased that Ward is back out, he's got to box someone, why not Smith? I think he'll have too much of everything for Paul but I've been wrong before.
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No, it's not a great fight.Crazyboy wrote:ok mate, ward v smith is a great fight...........
Smith doesn't deserve the level of disrespect that he is getting though.
Why is he so much more ridiculous of an opponent than Edwin Rodriguez was?
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I didn't say he was? I'm not sure many liked that fight either?Horse wrote:No, it's not a great fight.Crazyboy wrote:ok mate, ward v smith is a great fight...........
Smith doesn't deserve the level of disrespect that he is getting though.
Why is he so much more ridiculous of an opponent than Edwin Rodriguez was?
I'd cheer for smith don't get me wrong, I like to see any british fighter do well, I just think its a mismatch.
Monday blues maybe..i need to lighten up today
Re: Andre Ward v...Paul Smith??!
Who is disrespecting him? No one has actually insulted him nor said anything particularly derogatory about Paul.Horse wrote:Smith doesn't deserve the level of disrespect that he is getting though.
The simple truth is that Paul isn't a match for Andre Ward. And when you consider that he's coming off a 2 loss streak and this is his third World Title shot in a row, then that's pretty outrageous. Smith has had more opportunities over the past year than what most fighters ever have in their lifetime.
That is a embarrassingly poor example of trying to illustrate your point, Rodriguez was a joke of a fight too.Horse wrote:Why is he so much more ridiculous of an opponent than Edwin Rodriguez was?
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The lack of respect for Smith as a fighter is disrespect.Crease wrote:Who is disrespecting him? No one has actually insulted him nor said anything particularly derogatory about Paul.
And he's done better than most with the opportunities.Crease wrote:The simple truth is that Paul isn't a match for Andre Ward. And when you consider that he's coming off a 2 loss streak and this is his third World Title shot in a row, then that's pretty outrageous. Smith has had more opportunities over the past year than what most fighters ever have in their lifetime.
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Don't be ridiculous. It was a perfectly good point.Crease wrote:That is a embarrassingly poor example of trying to illustrate your point, Rodriguez was a joke of a fight too.
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And you would have us consider Smith, as a fighter, on par with Ward? That's the only logical inference of that statement.Horse wrote:The lack of respect for Smith as a fighter is disrespect.
Smith LOST TWICE. I wouldn't consider that doing particularly well, would you?Horse wrote:And he's done better than most with the opportunities.
And now, he's being lined up to face the best man in the division - How exactly are any of us being disrespectful? All you have to do is consider and accept the facts as they are... It's really not all that difficult to understand surely?
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Is this PPV?
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Don't start!!palooka wrote:Is this PPV?
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To an insane person, maybe.Crease wrote:And you would have us consider Smith, as a fighter, on par with Ward? That's the only logical inference of that statement.
Yes, I would actually.Crease wrote:Smith LOST TWICE. I wouldn't consider that doing particularly well, would you?
People are being disrespectful by acting like this is the most ridiculous fight that they can imagine being made.Crease wrote:And now, he's being lined up to face the best man in the division - How exactly are any of us being disrespectful? All you have to do is consider and accept the facts as they are... It's really not all that difficult to understand surely?
Re: Andre Ward v...Paul Smith??!
Smith is a decent fighter at world level, the 2nd Arthur bout showed his level. Ward was proven best in the division but that was a while ago, he may have a lot of ring rust - Smith has been pretty lucky but has run wiith his luck, if he wins it doesn't make him best in the division.
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He'll have to fight Froch to decide that.palooka wrote:Smith is a decent fighter at world level, the 2nd Arthur bout showed his level. Ward was proven best in the division but that was a while ago, he may have a lot of ring rust - Smith has been pretty lucky but has run wiith his luck, if he wins it doesn't make him best in the division.
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Crazyboy wrote:Don't start!!palooka wrote:Is this PPV?
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Re: Andre Ward v...Paul Smith??!
jameswilson wrote:
I don't have a clue what he earned in the Abraham fights. Expe should be able to reveal all but do be aware the documents he reels off to prove this will be written in crayon on some Preston North End branded post it notes.
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Has Smith ever beaten a fighter above domestic level? Every time he's stepped up he's been beaten.
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Why ask?rio wrote:Has Smith ever beaten a fighter above domestic level? Every time he's stepped up he's been beaten.
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I thought Ward was facing Periban? Hopefully the winner of DeGale v Dirrell will take Ward on although Dirrell wasn't too keen on the fight a few years back. I'd like to see Paul Smith vs Fielding but I've just seen that Fielding vs Callum Smith has went to purse bids (good fight also).
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Because the way he goes on he seems to thinks he's world class now. However most people believe that to be world class you have to beat someone world class, not lose to them. Smiths best win is Tony Dodson.Horse wrote:Why ask?rio wrote:Has Smith ever beaten a fighter above domestic level? Every time he's stepped up he's been beaten.
Re: Andre Ward v...Paul Smith??!
Because the way he goes on he seems to thinks he's world class now. However most people believe that to be world class you have to beat someone world class, not lose to them. Smiths best win is Tony Dodson.Horse wrote:Why ask?rio wrote:Has Smith ever beaten a fighter above domestic level? Every time he's stepped up he's been beaten.
Re: Andre Ward v...Paul Smith??!
If he gets the Ward fight it will be because of his two competitive fights with Abraham rather than any of the wins on his record.rio wrote:Because the way he goes on he seems to thinks he's world class now. However most people believe that to be world class you have to beat someone world class, not lose to them. Smiths best win is Tony Dodson.
It's not all about wins.
Re: Andre Ward v...Paul Smith??!
Announced today on Eddie's Twitter...
June 20, live on Sky Sports.
June 20, live on Sky Sports.
Re: Andre Ward v...Paul Smith??!
Lose 2 world title fights, get another one
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Payday for Paul that's good won't do anything for our credibility over there though.
How Ward gets up for a fight like this is beyond me though.
How Ward gets up for a fight like this is beyond me though.