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Jesus. You sound like a moron. Where do you work at, Taco Bell? I forgot you know more about the type of ref that's suitable to Manny Pacquaio and you know more than the guy who has been promoting him for like 15 yrs. Just shut up already and quit your whining.

Manny fights absolutely, positively NOTHING like Maidana, so who cares?! Use your brain.

diddy wrote:Manny fights absolutely, positively NOTHING like Maidana, so who cares?! Use your brain.

Read my previous post you dumb ass.

You really think Manny has to fight like Chino inorder for Bayless to give Floyd advantages.

Where do you work son roscoe's chicken and waffles.

diddy wrote:Manny fights absolutely, positively NOTHING like Maidana, so who cares?! Use your brain.

So no comment on if Bayless gave Floyd advantages in the maidana fight?

It should be noted that when one of the boxers pushes his arms underneath the arms of his opponent, does not withdraw them, and his opponent then delivers blows, the Referee should not interrupt this counter attack, but rather admonish the boxer pushing his arms underneath.--------- that was Floyd holding, maidana was hitting, tony weeks was spot on in the first fight to let maidana proceed, bayless had no right stopping maidanas infighting in the second fight

Pureist wrote:It should be noted that when one of the boxers pushes his arms underneath the arms of his opponent, does not withdraw them, and his opponent then delivers blows, the Referee should not interrupt this counter attack, but rather admonish the boxer pushing his arms underneath.--------- that was Floyd holding, maidana was hitting, tony weeks was spot on in the first fight to let maidana proceed, bayless had no right stopping maidanas infighting in the second fight

totaly agree.

i mean if bayless would have interrupted maidana 2 or 3 times from boxing from inside, nobody would have said something, but over the 12 rounds, it was more than 60 times where bayless was yelling "break" out of nowhere, just to interrupt maidanas rythm from boxing from inside upclose. i mean, sorry, but that is a part of boxing, tryn to mix it up from inside, if you take this away from a brawler or someone who has an advantage from fighting inside cause of his style and power, than you basicly take everything away from his gameplan.

The first part is out of the WBA referees handbook, Bayliss took it upon himself to change the rules to protect Floyd, after his performance he should not be allowed to ref floyd again

For people to whine about the choice of Bayless as ref only shows that you are already looking for excuses before hand, or know very little about either guy's style in this fight. Bayless has reffed 7 of Manny's fights and 5 of Floyd's. If he was such a good buddy of Floyd, why wouldn't they have had him more than 5 times out of 47 fights? Seems to me he must be more of a buddy to Manny since they used him more.

They could drag old ass Harold Lederman in the ring to ref this one. It isn't going to matter. You have to hate Floyd with a passion to make the ref before the fight a legitimate excuse.

In Maidana vs Floyd 1 Weeks didn't do his job to prevent the multiple fouls that happened. Neither guy was totally clean, but Maidana's tactics were over the top. In Maidana vs Floyd 3 Bayless was the other extreme. After we witnessed one of the dirtiest performances ever in Maidana 1, and Maidana's whole team publicly said it would be more of it in the 2nd. I think that is why they brought in Bayless, who is known for being a more strict ref. As Diddy and some others may have said, Manny's style is not anything like Maidana's, who has to grapple to be effective. It will be an easy one to ref.

Not an excuse, a fight where the ref isn't the main attraction like bayless made himself in the last fight, as for the fouls, the explaination in the rule book is quite straight forward, very easy to understand, so by that the only fouls were some low blows, lots of holding, Floyd couldn't complain about the shots in the back of the head when he's holding, there was a number of elbows, I personally thought weeks did a great job, he let some go for maidana and some for Floyd to let the fight flow, however, bayless gave Floyd the space required to box and didn't allow maidana to infight making the fight one sided, the fight didn't flow, on occasions bayless broke them even before maidana was in, it was a disgraceful performance

Pureist wrote:It should be noted that when one of the boxers pushes his arms underneath the arms of his opponent, does not withdraw them, and his opponent then delivers blows, the Referee should not interrupt this counter attack, but rather admonish the boxer pushing his arms underneath.--------- that was Floyd holding, maidana was hitting, tony weeks was spot on in the first fight to let maidana proceed, bayless had no right stopping maidanas infighting in the second fight

Pureist wrote:Not an excuse, a fight where the ref isn't the main attraction like bayless made himself in the last fight, as for the fouls, the explaination in the rule book is quite straight forward, very easy to understand, so by that the only fouls were some low blows, lots of holding, Floyd couldn't complain about the shots in the back of the head when he's holding, there was a number of elbows, I personally thought weeks did a great job, he let some go for maidana and some for Floyd to let the fight flow, however, bayless gave Floyd the space required to box and didn't allow maidana to infight making the fight one sided, the fight didn't flow, on occasions bayless broke them even before maidana was in, it was a disgraceful performance

If there were a number of elbows, show us?? Did you see him actually throw the elbows or did he raise his arm up to create space??

Oops my bad, I just realized I'm addressing a blundering idiot who has a lot of hate and personal issues/mental case.

@ Purist
Is a double leg take-down legal? Is that in the rule book? I'm pretty sure you didn't watch the fight if you only seen one or two fouls.

Freedom2013 wrote:I've never said the "N" word. Stop bringing race into this.

Do you have an alternate word? I find that hard to believe.

Never said the N word? Hahaha you're an even bigger liar than racist. Dont insult my intelligence.

Chepppaaa wrote:if bayless refs like he did with maidana, not letting him punch from the inside than this is going to be a 100 dollar ppv joke fight. bayless was my favourite ref years ago, but since the maidana fight i cant take him serious anymore.

Chepppaa is the only one making sense today on this Bayless debacle. How does Top Rank or Freddie not cause a stink about this? Anyone with eyes could see the favoritism Bayless showed Floyd in Maidana II. He was clearly coached by Floyd prior and it's clearly admitted to by Floyd.

Throughout the second fight, Bayless went out of his way to break up the two fighters while each guy had hands free. There were times when the action moved close to the ropes, the guys bodies not even touching and he broke it up-wtf. CLEARLY giving Floyd the advantage in that fight.

I guarantee action begins moving back to Floyd in Vegas since this was announced yesterday. Bayless is getting $25K for the fight, oh yeah, he can't be bought. Floyd probably sent three times that amount through the wash last night by accident.

Floyd's prefight advantages continue to add up and we aren't even close to done. Another reason why he's never going down as TBE.

Chepppaa is the only one making sense today on this Bayless debacle. How does Top Rank or Freddie not cause a stink about this? Anyone with eyes could see the favoritism Bayless showed Floyd in Maidana II. He was clearly coached by Floyd prior and it's clearly admitted to by Floyd.

Throughout the second fight, Bayless went out of his way to break up the two fighters while each guy had hands free. There were times when the action moved close to the ropes, the guys bodies not even touching and he broke it up-wtf. CLEARLY giving Floyd the advantage in that fight.

I guarantee action begins moving back to Floyd in Vegas since this was announced yesterday. Bayless is getting $25K for the fight, oh yeah, he can't be bought. Floyd probably sent three times that amount through the wash last night by accident.

Floyd's prefight advantages continue to add up and we aren't even close to done. Another reason why he's never going down as TBE.[/quote]


Floyd admitted to coaching Bayless prior to Maidana II?
Now Floyd is sending money to Bayless?

You and Cheppy must spend a lot of time together the way you are thinking alike.

I find it funny that our admin has warned against slander and libelous statements
but it only pertains if we are dissing a certain fighter.

KBB wrote:

Pureist wrote:Not an excuse, a fight where the ref isn't the main attraction like bayless made himself in the last fight, as for the fouls, the explaination in the rule book is quite straight forward, very easy to understand, so by that the only fouls were some low blows, lots of holding, Floyd couldn't complain about the shots in the back of the head when he's holding, there was a number of elbows, I personally thought weeks did a great job, he let some go for maidana and some for Floyd to let the fight flow, however, bayless gave Floyd the space required to box and didn't allow maidana to infight making the fight one sided, the fight didn't flow, on occasions bayless broke them even before maidana was in, it was a disgraceful performance

If there were a number of elbows, show us?? Did you see him actually throw the elbows or did he raise his arm up to create space??http://www.google.com.au/imgres?imgurl= ... G0QMyhKMEo

Oops my bad, I just realized I'm addressing a blundering idiot who has a lot of hate and personal issues/mental case.

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tiny_acres wrote:I find it funny that our admin has warned against slander and libelous statements
but it only pertains if we are dissing a certain fighter.

I've been warned on past occasions for posting my thoughts of Bob Arum and Fwarren ( when you type his name it changes to "allegedly" hahah) and their shady business practices, so it sounds like you're just butthurt about a warning.
The admins are fair and balanced, for the most part.
The collective boxing IQ and general tone of discussion around here has dropped significantly into a state of almost perpetual ignorance over the past few years, yet the admins haven't moved to stop that ignorance, out of fairness.
Fairness sucks when it's you that gets warned, or me that has to choose not to come to boxrec, or to come and suffer extremist trolls that don't know boxing beyond "punching"...Doesn't it?

uptconnect wrote:

tiny_acres wrote:I find it funny that our admin has warned against slander and libelous statements
but it only pertains if we are dissing a certain fighter.

I've been warned on past occasions for posting my thoughts of Bob Arum and Fwarren ( when you type his name it changes to "allegedly" hahah) and their shady business practices, so it sounds like you're just butthurt about a warning.
The admins are fair and balanced, for the most part.
The collective boxing IQ and general tone of discussion around here has dropped significantly into a state of almost perpetual ignorance over the past few years, yet the admins haven't moved to stop that ignorance, out of fairness.
Fairness sucks when it's you that gets warned, or me that has to choose not to come to boxrec, or to come and suffer extremist trolls that don't know boxing beyond "punching"...Doesn't it?

That's funny.
I have never been warned.But I will say this a certain admin has gone out of his way
to warn everyone here not to post any slanderous or libelous statements about this fight.

Yet saying Bayliss has accepted a bribe is still up.

I believe the rules shouls be the same for all.Not just those that are favorites.

caldo2025 wrote:

Chepppaaa wrote:if bayless refs like he did with maidana, not letting him punch from the inside than this is going to be a 100 dollar ppv joke fight. bayless was my favourite ref years ago, but since the maidana fight i cant take him serious anymore.

Chepppaa is the only one making sense today on this Bayless debacle. How does Top Rank or Freddie not cause a stink about this? Anyone with eyes could see the favoritism Bayless showed Floyd in Maidana II. He was clearly coached by Floyd prior and it's clearly admitted to by Floyd.

Throughout the second fight, Bayless went out of his way to break up the two fighters while each guy had hands free. There were times when the action moved close to the ropes, the guys bodies not even touching and he broke it up-wtf. CLEARLY giving Floyd the advantage in that fight.

I guarantee action begins moving back to Floyd in Vegas since this was announced yesterday. Bayless is getting $25K for the fight, oh yeah, he can't be bought. Floyd probably sent three times that amount through the wash last night by accident.

Floyd's prefight advantages continue to add up and we aren't even close to done. Another reason why he's never going down as TBE.

exactly......and floyd always looking to kenny, like "say break" hahahaa ridicoulus, its boxing


i mean this could realy end up the biggest joke in all of sports ever, if we get a 300 million doillar "break" fight, where the ref doesnt let one fighter fight from inside and lets floyd box 12 boring rounds from outside, doing his usual jab, right cross.......

Arum is probably sending Bayless a bag of money as we speak to make sure he referees fairly. And that's just to be FAIR, not biased in favor of Manny.

Poll result indicates most people agree that Bayless will be biased in favor of Floyd.

Of course, Floyd's most devoted and loving fans feel he won't.

Freedom2013 wrote:Poll result indicates most people agree that Bayless will be biased in favor of Floyd.

Of course, Floyd's most devoted and loving fans feel he won't.

just common sense, if you watched maidana 2 fight

exactly......and floyd always looking to kenny, like "say break" hahahaa ridicoulus, its boxing


i mean this could realy end up the biggest joke in all of sports ever, if we get a 300 million doillar "break" fight, where the ref doesnt let one fighter fight from inside and lets floyd box 12 boring rounds from outside, doing his usual jab, right cross.......

Exactly, Man. There's only been a few refs that i've liked in Boxing and the reason that i liked them was they were invisible in the fights they worked. A ref should never be part of the story.

Then Bayless comes back after Maidana II and ref's the Guerrero/Thurman fight fairly and clearly allows Guerrero to utilize his inside game and smothering on the ropes.

So how can Bayless ref two matches completely differently? I know he was coached up by Floyd, that's not even the question, but how can Boxing let this happen in the biggest fight in history? travesty.