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thomasjkelley wrote:Wladimir uses clinching as a definitive part of his overall strategy and I didn't think he was excessive tonight. If anything, your referee from Canada, Michael Griffin, overly involved himself. How many times did he warn Wlad to stop pushing when he shoved off with his jab? I've never seen a fighter warned for pushing in that manner before. Technically, if you're not snapping off your jab with enthusiasm, then you're pushing it. Heavyweight fights in general are uglier than other divisions, tonight wasn't ugly. Holding is a foul that is not supposed to be allowed but clinching is a legitimate tactic and Wladimir simply does it well. If you noticed, many of Klitschko's holds/clinches happened as Jennings lowered his shoulder into his chest and wrapped his left arm around Wlad's waist. I had no problem with his technique tonight and I was rooting against him......I desperately want to see an American reign as heavyweight champ once again. The only issue I have with Klitschko's style is that it can make for boring fights like tonight.

diddy wrote:Wlad isnt 5'6 115 lbs. Thats like saying a UFC heavyweight should have the cardio of Demetrious Johnson, a flyweight. He is a HUGE man. Huge men arent going to have the cardio of guys the size of 12 yr old boys. Also, as has been said, shorter guys have to lunge inside to get close to hitting him. Their torsos are going to collide, whats he supposed to do, let them punch him in the face? Holding is inevitable. Unless you're a dumb fighter who doesnt know/do what it takes to win.

Chepppaaa wrote:

diddy wrote:Wlad isnt 5'6 115 lbs. Thats like saying a UFC heavyweight should have the cardio of Demetrious Johnson, a flyweight. He is a HUGE man. Huge men arent going to have the cardio of guys the size of 12 yr old boys. Also, as has been said, shorter guys have to lunge inside to get close to hitting him. Their torsos are going to collide, whats he supposed to do, let them punch him in the face? Holding is inevitable. Unless you're a dumb fighter who doesnt know/do what it takes to win.

i dont expect a heavyweight to have cardio like a flyweight and move like a mouse on extasy, but i do expect great condition for a heavyweight at world level, who can box for 12 without turning into a wrestler, that simple.

kidbazooka1 wrote:Sorry but klitchko is fuucking garbage how any true boxing fan can enjoy this guys fighting style is beyond me.

Can't waite till Wilder gets rid of this clown.

Klitchko has to have to worst boxing style I've ever seen on any fighter.

Chepppaaa wrote:

kidbazooka1 wrote:Sorry but klitchko is fuucking garbage how any true boxing fan can enjoy this guys fighting style is beyond me.

Can't waite till Wilder gets rid of this clown.

Klitchko has to have to worst boxing style I've ever seen on any fighter.

finaly some normal people in this forum, i had the feeling being alone with retards all over the place

Ian1973 wrote:

Chepppaaa wrote:

kidbazooka1 wrote:Sorry but klitchko is fuucking garbage how any true boxing fan can enjoy this guys fighting style is beyond me.

Can't waite till Wilder gets rid of this clown.

Klitchko has to have to worst boxing style I've ever seen on any fighter.

finaly some normal people in this forum, i had the feeling being alone with retards all over the place

Lol. No you are not alone. There are plenty of people out there that don't know their arse from their elbow. Don't worry.

Are you gonna seriouy sit there and tell me you enjoy what wlad does?

Chepppaaa wrote:dont bother...this ian dude seems like a retard....he realy liked that fight and no, there was totaly not wrestling and holding involved

i will be so happy when wlad retires

Ian1973 wrote:

Chepppaaa wrote:dont bother...this ian dude seems like a retard....he realy liked that fight and no, there was totaly not wrestling and holding involved

i will be so happy when wlad retires

Lol.

Capitals, comma's, basic spelling ...............

........... and I'm the retard.

Ok ... you win brainbox ............. if it makes you happy!


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Chepppaaa wrote:

Ian1973 wrote:

Chepppaaa wrote:dont bother...this ian dude seems like a retard....he realy liked that fight and no, there was totaly not wrestling and holding involved

i will be so happy when wlad retires

Lol.

Capitals, comma's, basic spelling ...............

........... and I'm the retard.

Ok ... you win brainbox ............. if it makes you happy!


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It's wonderful watching the intelligence of Wladimir


no real jab

holding

crabing

pushing

0,0 footwork

robotic


you are the total retard.....wlad and boxing intelligence

Ian1973 wrote:

Are you gonna seriouy sit there and tell me you enjoy what wlad does?

Yep. But then I'm not a jealous and hurting American.

It's wonderful watching the intelligence of Wladimir that can only be appreciated by those that have reasonable "boxing" intelligence themselves.

kidbazooka1 wrote:

Ian1973 wrote:

Are you gonna seriouy sit there and tell me you enjoy what wlad does?

Yep. But then I'm not a jealous and hurting American.

It's wonderful watching the intelligence of Wladimir that can only be appreciated by those that have reasonable "boxing" intelligence themselves.

Ahhh i see so your one of those Europeans that root for a euro fighter regardless how shiity they look.

Gotcha.

Boy do i feel sorry for you to have to somehow convince yourself that that crap wlad pulls in all of his fights is "boxing intelligence" your really grasping huh.

Pretty pitiful i might add.

Boxing intelligence is what Floyd does shiit and im no Floyd fan but i can recognize it.

What wlad does is just plain disgusting and embarrassing to the sport of boxing.

kidbazooka1 wrote:Trust me no one in America would ever consider Wlad the goat HW.

European, American, mexican, asian it doesnt matter Wlad style of fighting is horrible.

And for you to call it "wonderful" really doesn't make you sound like you watch very much boxing cuz even the most devoted Wlad fan wouldn't call his style "wonderful".

Ian1973 wrote:

kidbazooka1 wrote:Trust me no one in America would ever consider Wlad the goat HW.

European, American, mexican, asian it doesnt matter Wlad style of fighting is horrible.

And for you to call it "wonderful" really doesn't make you sound like you watch very much boxing cuz even the most devoted Wlad fan wouldn't call his style "wonderful".

Exactly my point.

The GOAT would be an American right?


Shock, gasp, horror!

Ian1973 wrote:

kidbazooka1 wrote:Trust me no one in America would ever consider Wlad the goat HW.

European, American, mexican, asian it doesnt matter Wlad style of fighting is horrible.

And for you to call it "wonderful" really doesn't make you sound like you watch very much boxing cuz even the most devoted Wlad fan wouldn't call his style "wonderful".

Exactly my point.

The GOAT would be an American right?


Shock, gasp, horror!

kidbazooka1 wrote:

Ian1973 wrote:

kidbazooka1 wrote:Trust me no one in America would ever consider Wlad the goat HW.

European, American, mexican, asian it doesnt matter Wlad style of fighting is horrible.

And for you to call it "wonderful" really doesn't make you sound like you watch very much boxing cuz even the most devoted Wlad fan wouldn't call his style "wonderful".

Exactly my point.

The GOAT would be an American right?


Shock, gasp, horror!

Your not getting it.

Tell me do you consider Wlad the goat hw?

Ian1973 wrote:Better still kidbazooka1 you tell me who is the best of all time.


Please not Ali?