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Re: Wilder defends 'BC belt in Alabama June 13 v TBA
Posted: 06 May 2015, 11:49
by Horse
Is this the same Eric Molina who was stopped in a round by Chris Arreola three years ago?
Arreola would be a weak opponent. Fighting Molina would suggest Wilder's team have no confidence in him.
Re: Wilder defends 'BC belt in Alabama June 13 v TBA
Posted: 06 May 2015, 11:51
by Datsue
Horse wrote:Is this the same Eric Molina who was stopped in a round by Chris Arreola three years ago?
Arreola would be a weak opponent. Fighting Molina would suggest Wilder's team have no confidence in him.
The very same.
Re: Wilder defends 'BC belt in Alabama June 13 v TBA
Posted: 06 May 2015, 12:56
by klitoris
pound per pound wrote:
I am okay with Wilder fighting anyone on this list because a new champion is entitled to an easy 1st defense before taking on a real challenge. The safest pick would be De Mori ( although he can punch ), or Arreola who'd on a tail spin downward.
Best guess? Szpika, or Molina.
By far the easiest on this list is Molina and then Arreola. Haymon will obviously choose Molina.
Wilder beat Stiverne.
Stiverne beat the sh*t out of Arreola twice, once by TKO.
Arreola Knocked Out Molina.
Molina is by far the easiest on this list.
Re: Wilder defends 'BC belt in Alabama June 13 v TBA
Posted: 06 May 2015, 13:30
by punchoutsb
Team Wilder never (allegedly) disappoints!
Molina is just about the worst possible opponent. I admire their consistency.
Re: Wilder defends 'BC belt in Alabama June 13 v TBA
Posted: 06 May 2015, 14:36
by dempseyfire
But I thought Haymon was the savior of boxing? Surely he'd ensure the debut of his "heavyweight champion" would be against someone with a pulse . .

Re: Wilder defends 'BC belt in Alabama June 13 v TBA
Posted: 07 May 2015, 07:53
by david1963
Datsue wrote:Can I just say at this point that I went to look up Mark De Mori & see how good he was following B-P's mention of him in this thread & now I cannot unsee the horror.
This man was entering his
tenth year as a professional fighter in this bout, & is fighting a 40-something fat cruiserweight novice he outweighed by approximately two stone:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sk42vCVJGUU
Give Pagga ten years back & he'd've done him there. De Mori makes Bob Mirovic look like a young George Foreman.
He has to be the worst "contender" I have ever seen. His opponent looked like he had leprosy, which didn't add much to my viewing pleasure.
Re: Wilder defends 'BC belt in Alabama June 13 v TBA
Posted: 07 May 2015, 13:30
by Freedom2013
Re: Wilder defends 'BC belt in Alabama June 13 v TBA
Posted: 07 May 2015, 13:34
by punchoutsb
Baby steps is right. 34 fights from this "Bronze medalist" and they're still trying to spin that he's learning on the job.
Re: Wilder defends 'BC belt in Alabama June 13 v TBA
Posted: 07 May 2015, 13:52
by pound per pound
punchoutsb wrote:
Baby steps is right. 34 fights from this "Bronze medalist" and they're still trying to spin that he's learning on the job.
Okay, I'm starting to like Wilder a bit. Sue me, he might be the the best USA heavyweight since Brewster.
You have to give his manager credit. Has any fighter miked a bronze medal better?
Re: Wilder defends 'BC belt in Alabama June 13 v TBA
Posted: 07 May 2015, 14:01
by The Great John L
Cunningham, and younger versions fo Chambers and The Tiger would have schooled the limited Brewster.
Re: Wilder defends 'BC belt in Alabama June 13 v TBA
Posted: 07 May 2015, 14:39
by Baby Face Finster
punchoutsb wrote:Team Wilder never (allegedly) disappoints!
Molina is just about the worst possible opponent. I admire their consistency.
Wilder is a joke. Can you imagine the abuse (and rightly so) Wlad would get if he defended his belt against this type of opposition.
Re: Wilder defends 'BC belt in Alabama June 13 v TBA
Posted: 07 May 2015, 19:46
by crusader
punchoutsb wrote:
Baby steps is right. 34 fights from this "Bronze medalist" and they're still trying to spin that he's learning on the job.
He's been boxing for a decade, fought several of the best amateurs in the world before turning pro, and has had 33 pro fights over roughly 7 years. The idea that he still needs 'baby steps' against someone like Molina, who will likely be stopped very quickly as he was against Arreola, is laughable and makes me question if his team knows of weaknesses that preclude them from having much confidence in him.
Re: Wilder defends 'BC belt in Alabama June 13 v TBA
Posted: 08 May 2015, 11:49
by punchoutsb
crusader wrote:punchoutsb wrote:
Baby steps is right. 34 fights from this "Bronze medalist" and they're still trying to spin that he's learning on the job.
He's been boxing for a decade, fought several of the best amateurs in the world before turning pro, and has had 33 pro fights over roughly 7 years. The idea that he still needs 'baby steps' against someone like Molina, who will likely be stopped very quickly as he was against Arreola, is laughable and makes me question if his team knows of weaknesses that preclude them from having much confidence in him.
They definitely know. Molina will not see the second round. He's already been knocked out twice in the first round.
I guess someone like FOURTY THREE year old Tony Thompson is just asking too much

Re: Wilder defends 'BC belt in Alabama June 13 v TBA
Posted: 08 May 2015, 21:41
by 493dart
Baby Face Finster wrote:punchoutsb wrote:Team Wilder never (allegedly) disappoints!
Molina is just about the worst possible opponent. I admire their consistency.
Wilder is a joke. Can you imagine the abuse (and rightly so) Wlad would get if he defended his belt against this type of opposition.
Oh... you mean like... Pianeta , Mormeck , Wach , Leapai , old Rahman , old Austin ...... opponents like that ??

Re: Wilder defends 'BC belt in Alabama June 13 v TBA
Posted: 08 May 2015, 21:46
by Bobbyptsd
493dart wrote:Baby Face Finster wrote:punchoutsb wrote:Team Wilder never (allegedly) disappoints!
Molina is just about the worst possible opponent. I admire their consistency.
Wilder is a joke. Can you imagine the abuse (and rightly so) Wlad would get if he defended his belt against this type of opposition.
Oh... you mean like... Pianeta , Mormeck , Wach , Leapai , old Rahman , old Austin ...... opponents like that ??

The worst names you can dig up from Wlad's recent record look like a goddamn murderer's row compared to Wilder's resume.
Talk about a self-defeating argument.
Re: Wilder defends 'BC belt in Alabama June 13 v TBA
Posted: 08 May 2015, 23:53
by crusader
493dart wrote:Baby Face Finster wrote:punchoutsb wrote:Team Wilder never (allegedly) disappoints!
Molina is just about the worst possible opponent. I admire their consistency.
Wilder is a joke. Can you imagine the abuse (and rightly so) Wlad would get if he defended his belt against this type of opposition.
Oh... you mean like... Pianeta , Mormeck , Wach , Leapai , old Rahman , old Austin ...... opponents like that ??

Are you serious??
All of them except for perhaps Rahman were better than Molina, who couldn't last one round against his only top twenty opponent, and two of them (Leapai and Austin) were mandatories while another (Rahman) was a very-late replacement for Alexander Povetkin, who pulled out shortly before he was supposed to fight Wlad.
By the way, an even older Austin was ahead 6-3 on a pair of cards going into the 10th round against Stiverne, who is probably Wilder's best opponent.
Re: Wilder defends 'BC belt in Alabama June 13 v TBA
Posted: 09 May 2015, 00:02
by 493dart
Grabimere Clinchko didnt know what to do with a fighter that could HALFWAY box and move like Jennings---how was he supposed to clinch and lean on him ??
He prefers bums like kubrat and leapai who stood right in front of him so he could tee off-----then lean on them and clinch and hold.
Wilder ko's Clinchko in 8 .

Re: Wilder defends 'BC belt in Alabama June 13 v TBA
Posted: 09 May 2015, 00:06
by crusader
Whatever you say

Re: Wilder defends 'BC belt in Alabama June 13 v TBA
Posted: 09 May 2015, 12:37
by Tony1244
Tony1244 wrote:crusader wrote:cold187 wrote:will be Eric Molina
That would be lame.
It is lame, which is why it will happen.
You called it, buddy. But I seconded it.
Re: Wilder defends 'BC belt in Alabama June 13 v TBA
Posted: 09 May 2015, 13:45
by Aandersonptl
Glad he is fighting and defending his title in his home state to start with. Jus sayin. Can't wait for June 13th Birmingham needs this fight

Re: Wilder defends 'BC belt in Alabama June 13 v TBA
Posted: 09 May 2015, 14:22
by punchoutsb
493dart wrote:Grabimere Clinchko didnt know what to do with a fighter that could HALFWAY box and move like Jennings---how was he supposed to clinch and lean on him ??
He prefers bums like kubrat and leapai who stood right in front of him so he could tee off-----then lean on them and clinch and hold.
Wilder ko's Clinchko in 8 .

Didn't know what to do so badly that he won 10-2.
Nice argument
They let anyone post on the internet these days.