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I've said it before and I will say it again.

This becomes a legit topic for discussion if one of 2 things happen.

1) GGG shows he can fight at 154, or
2) Floyd shows he can fight at 160.

Until then, we're all just spitting in the wind.

Only one thing needs to happen: Floyd sending GGG an offer to fight at 154.

ikorolev wrote:Only one thing needs to happen: Floyd sending GGG an offer to fight at 154.

Why would you send someone an offer to fight at a weight class he has never fought in before and isn't even ranked in.

His name isn't Paquiao, you know...

koolkc107 wrote:

ikorolev wrote:Only one thing needs to happen: Floyd sending GGG an offer to fight at 154.

Why would you send someone an offer to fight at a weight class he has never fought in before and isn't even ranked in.

His name isn't Paquiao, you know...

His name is on all possible p4p top 10 lists. Yes, he hasn't fought at 154, but this is the weight in the middle between Floyd's and Gennady's weights, so it seems fair to meet there.

If they fought at 154 I would pick Mayweather. At 160 I'd side towards GGG. Thing is, if Mayweather did in fact fight GGG at 154 this September and won a Decision then there still will be those fans or haters who would in turn claim GGG was drained and that Mayweather didn't fight GGG at his optimal weight ect ect. Bottom line this fight isn't happening. Floyd deserves an "easy" fight. Floyd has just beat Manny Pacquiao and wants to put on one more show before ending his career.

I don't think Floyd gets enough credit sometimes. What he has been able to accomplish throughout his career is amazing. Not only the accolades he has achieved but what he has done for the sport of boxing ; as in being part of the 3 biggest fights in terms of revenue generated. Think about it for a minute. Floyd Mayweather Jr who many 'casuals' consider as a boring fighter has made as much money and generated that much interest into himself that he has made as much money as he has is astonishing

ikorolev wrote:

koolkc107 wrote:

ikorolev wrote:Only one thing needs to happen: Floyd sending GGG an offer to fight at 154.

Why would you send someone an offer to fight at a weight class he has never fought in before and isn't even ranked in.

His name isn't Paquiao, you know...

His name is on all possible p4p top 10 lists. Yes, he hasn't fought at 154, but this is the weight in the middle between Floyd's and Gennady's weights, so it seems fair to meet there.

Gennady has been talking about Floyd since at least 2012 or 13.

You would think that he would have at least demonstrated that he can actually make that weight by now.

He beats Lara or another name at 154 and how could anyone silence the calls for Floyd to take on the challenge?

Look at who he fought in 2013 and tell me he would not have made as much or more fighting Lara or another name guy at jr middle.

If the fight never happens, I put it on GGG for not making it happen- the same way he won't go up either and face better competition.

Comon now... Floyd ain't fightin G. You think Floyd is Henry Armstrong?

Two fights away from breaking that record & being able to retire undefeated at 50.0 & people honestly think the GGG is even a consideration?

I get that the Floyd hatred is kicking into overdrive but to even suggest this fight with Mayweather going up in weight is just insane.

JAHamilton77 wrote:Don't think its a stupid suggestion if Floyd wanted to go out with the maximum bang to shut absolutely every hater up. At the same time, I don't think he needs to, his legacy is well cemented and as much as I don't care for him, I think he has proven his greatness.

Thurman would be interesting, though I don't see him winning.

If Kirkland beat Canelo (not likely) he would make for a fun match, since it would be Floyd basically fighting a grizzly bear.

If Crawford and Garcia would fight creating a p4p lineal champ at 140, that winner could be suitable.

I'd pay to see Floyd snuff out his protege Adrien Broner out.

I think Mayweather should fight Broner. Probably the only fighter who fans want to see lose more than Floyd. It seems like now that he's about to retire . All the boos from the crowd are getting to him.

Let the man hear some cheers after he wins a fight for once lol

koolkc107 wrote:I've said it before and I will say it again.

This becomes a legit topic for discussion if one of 2 things happen.

1) GGG shows he can fight at 154, or
2) Floyd shows he can fight at 160.

Until then, we're all just spitting in the wind.

He didn't fight GingerHead at 154. 3G would have to come down to a maximum of 152. Maybe 150. However, he might fight Cotto for his 160 belt if he agrees to a 156 catch weight.

For the record, I don't see any reason for FMJ to fight 3G. Who do you think he is, The Hitman? Thurman or Brook would be legit.

fergusg wrote:For the very same reason that Tom Loeffler won't consider Andre Ward as a commercially viable opponent for his charge, Gennady Golovkin... the shoe is on the other foot with Mayweather, but the situation is far more extreme (due to the Haymon/Showtime vs. HBO monumental hurdle).

If Floyd wants anyone to take his claim that he is better than Robinson seriously, these are things he needs to push for. Floyd doesn't challenge himself the way fighters like Robinson and Armstrong did. So, why should we even consider his claim as being even remotely serious unless he takes on someone like Gennady... and more? If it's one thing we all know about Floyd, if he wants to make something happen, he will.

Impractical Poster wrote:

fergusg wrote:For the very same reason that Tom Loeffler won't consider Andre Ward as a commercially viable opponent for his charge, Gennady Golovkin... the shoe is on the other foot with Mayweather, but the situation is far more extreme (due to the Haymon/Showtime vs. HBO monumental hurdle).

If Floyd wants anyone to take his claim that he is better than Robinson seriously, these are things he needs to push for. Floyd doesn't challenge himself the way fighters like Robinson and Armstrong did. So, why should we even consider his claim as being even remotely serious unless he takes on someone like Gennady... and more? If it's one thing we all know about Floyd, if he wants to make something happen, he will.

He doesn't. therefore he won't, and nobody should expect him to.

ikorolev wrote:Brut, where is your objectivity you talk about so much ? At 154, is there a more dangerous opponent than GGG ? If not, what is so wrong with Floyd fighting him ?

LOL to you asking me about objectivity when 3G isn't even at 154, we all know what you're about.

GGG should be facing Ward or someone else who has called him out like Lara but you cannot see that your boy is ducking those two fights because you have no objectivity.

I think it's time to stop talking about Floyd's ego. He was incredibly careful with a flat Pacquiao in a fight that the whole world was watching; he didn't seek to make any kind of "statement" in the fight because he isn't going to change up what he does just to please fans. He shouldn't have to, but it seems apparent that he is not hunting for some great legacy as the best ever. He won't seek out a dangerous challenge to placate fans who want to see him tested and that is all GGG would bring to the table right now. He will probably go after Cotto for the MW title.

KBB wrote:

ikorolev wrote:Brut, where is your objectivity you talk about so much ? At 154, is there a more dangerous opponent than GGG ? If not, what is so wrong with Floyd fighting him ?

LOL to you asking me about objectivity when 3G isn't even at 154, we all know what you're about.

GGG should be facing Ward or someone else who has called him out like Lara but you cannot see that your boy is ducking those two fights because you have no objectivity.

As everybody else, GGG wants a money fight. Lara brings absolutely nothing to the table in terms of money. Being a LMW, he will not add much to Gennady's resume either. A win over Ward would be great to have, but there is not enough money on the table (at least that we know of), so both of them don't want to face each other and take a huge risk until enough money is found by their promoters.

You are displaying great objectivity again shifting the subject from who Floyd needs to face to prove his alleged TBE status to who other fighters need to face. You always find excuses for Floyd.

Butterbean wrote:Nope, its the void gayfeather rules saying, i aint fighting anyone whom is either a threat or has the same size as me. Thats why it wont happen.

Oh, now there is an intelligent comment. Floyd has been picking on guys much smaller than him? How about Pac vs GGG? Pacquiao is actually bigger than Floyd in pretty much every category except for a little in height and reach. Taller doesn't mean bigger. Taller means taller. Chest size, biceps, calves, wrists, fists, etc etc. all favor Pac.

I mentioned probably a couple of times whenever Floyd wins, GGG or some other bigger, better guy comes up. Some of you guys are just fornicating retarded. Consider this; Floyd is not a huge welterweight, and is 38 yrs old, with one more fight. Are you actually dumb enough to even hope he will take on a prime, solid, dominant 160 pounder like GGG? Would I like to see Floyd, if he was naturally 20 pounds heavier and 6-8 yrs younger take on GGG? Absolutely! For those of you that said he would be competitive and has a good chance to win speaks volumes.

I still hear comparisons of Manny's beatdowns of a 145lb DLH or Cotto, and criticize Floyd for having a tougher fight with them, conveniently forgetting Floyd fought them at their full weight. DLH weighed 17 lbs more vs Floyd than he did Manny, who he fought about a year and a half later. DLH was passed his best in both bouts, but there was a world of difference between the two versions of DLH. Yes, Floyd has fought two guys at 154. Imo was stupid to do it also. DLH, Cotto, and Canelo are guys he could compete with, but he was taking a big chance fighting them.

How about this; Since Floyd has a huge disadvantage in weight and age, how about GGG cut to 147 to fight him? He is prime age, an excellent fighter, and that would even the playing field. Not fair? Like I said before....just like the Pac fight, and many others, Floyd even if he beat GGG at 154 would only be beating a drained GGG - and would never have done it if it was at full 160.......so, Floyd is a pussy for not doing it at 160........if he is supposed to be so good.......fight him at 160. It is a no-win situation. Actually it is for both guys. So many want Floyd to lose soooooo bad, they will keep moving the goalpost.

Badhusker wrote:

Butterbean wrote:Nope, its the void gayfeather rules saying, i aint fighting anyone whom is either a threat or has the same size as me. Thats why it wont happen.

Oh, now there is an intelligent comment. Floyd has been picking on guys much smaller than him? How about Pac vs GGG? Pacquiao is actually bigger than Floyd in pretty much every category except for a little in height and reach. Taller doesn't mean bigger. Taller means taller. Chest size, biceps, calves, wrists, fists, etc etc. all favor Pac.

I mentioned probably a couple of times whenever Floyd wins, GGG or some other bigger, better guy comes up. Some of you guys are just effing retarded. Consider this; Floyd is not a huge welterweight, and is 38 yrs old, with one more fight. Are you actually dumb enough to even hope he will take on a prime, solid, dominant 160 pounder like GGG? Would I like to see Floyd, if he was naturally 20 pounds heavier and 6-8 yrs younger take on GGG? Absolutely! For those of you that said he would be competitive and has a good chance to win speaks volumes.

I still hear comparisons of Manny's beatdowns of a 145lb DLH or Cotto, and criticize Floyd for having a tougher fight with them, conveniently forgetting Floyd fought them at their full weight. DLH weighed 17 lbs more vs Floyd than he did Manny, who he fought about a year and a half later. DLH was passed his best in both bouts, but there was a world of difference between the two versions of DLH. Yes, Floyd has fought two guys at 154. Imo was stupid to do it also. DLH, Cotto, and Canelo are guys he could compete with, but he was taking a big chance fighting them.

How about this; Since Floyd has a huge disadvantage in weight and age, how about GGG cut to 147 to fight him? He is prime age, an excellent fighter, and that would even the playing field. Not fair? Like I said before....just like the Pac fight, and many others, Floyd even if he beat GGG at 154 would only be beating a drained GGG - and would never have done it if it was at full 160.......so, Floyd is a pussy for not doing it at 160........if he is supposed to be so good.......fight him at 160. It is a no-win situation. Actually it is for both guys. So many want Floyd to lose soooooo bad, they will keep moving the goalpost.

You ever read the posts that you write. Your a serious Mayweather Nutthugger. Especially the last paragraph. You have issues.

Tony1244 wrote:

ClivePatrickLyons wrote:

Baby Face Finster wrote:The idea is D) stupid because no way is Floyd going to risk his undefeated record against Triple G unless he can make him drain down to a weight Triple G will be dead at.

Thanks Baby Face Finster for saving me 5 minute's of my life by typing it for me......

So, it would be a good idea if Mayweather had the balls to do it?

You guys wouldn't happen to be bitter because you were dumb enough to buy this?

There's no sport on the planet come's anywhere near boxing match that is classed has a SUPERFIGHT you only have too look at MAY/PAC the
fight it self didn't live up too all the hype but look at all the VIP'S and all the people who don't follow the game that took a interest in it I laughed when I read somewhere on-line that some bloke asked this guy what country Manny was from at local watering hole before the fight
he was called a imbercile what a better way to go out in another SUPERFIGHT in September don't you think so :??

Badhusker wrote:

Butterbean wrote:Nope, its the void gayfeather rules saying, i aint fighting anyone whom is either a threat or has the same size as me. Thats why it wont happen.

Oh, now there is an intelligent comment. Floyd has been picking on guys much smaller than him? How about Pac vs GGG? Pacquiao is actually bigger than Floyd in pretty much every category except for a little in height and reach. Taller doesn't mean bigger. Taller means taller. Chest size, biceps, calves, wrists, fists, etc etc. all favor Pac.

I mentioned probably a couple of times whenever Floyd wins, GGG or some other bigger, better guy comes up. Some of you guys are just effing retarded. Consider this; Floyd is not a huge welterweight, and is 38 yrs old, with one more fight. Are you actually dumb enough to even hope he will take on a prime, solid, dominant 160 pounder like GGG? Would I like to see Floyd, if he was naturally 20 pounds heavier and 6-8 yrs younger take on GGG? Absolutely! For those of you that said he would be competitive and has a good chance to win speaks volumes.

I still hear comparisons of Manny's beatdowns of a 145lb DLH or Cotto, and criticize Floyd for having a tougher fight with them, conveniently forgetting Floyd fought them at their full weight. DLH weighed 17 lbs more vs Floyd than he did Manny, who he fought about a year and a half later. DLH was passed his best in both bouts, but there was a world of difference between the two versions of DLH. Yes, Floyd has fought two guys at 154. Imo was stupid to do it also. DLH, Cotto, and Canelo are guys he could compete with, but he was taking a big chance fighting them.

How about this; Since Floyd has a huge disadvantage in weight and age, how about GGG cut to 147 to fight him? He is prime age, an excellent fighter, and that would even the playing field. Not fair? Like I said before....just like the Pac fight, and many others, Floyd even if he beat GGG at 154 would only be beating a drained GGG - and would never have done it if it was at full 160.......so, Floyd is a pussy for not doing it at 160........if he is supposed to be so good.......fight him at 160. It is a no-win situation. Actually it is for both guys. So many want Floyd to lose soooooo bad, they will keep moving the goalpost.

wtf... Lmao he is actually not bigger. Just a tiny head taller and a wee bit off reach.... Lol with your own argument, why doenst void go to hw. Theyre just a little taller with a tiny reach advantage.. The size difference between void and pac are larger than the difference between void and ggg.

At this point, I don't think anyone is or could beat FMJ. Even GGG. He just does the same thing to everyone. It's like groundhog day.

Do you know what is really sad though? I don't think we've seen even half of what FMJ is capable of in the ring. He's never been tested and had to let it all go to win these fights. Each fight is choreographed to perfection and turns out exactly how he wants them to.

He'll fight Cotto next most likely and end his career with the Middleweight Belt. Anyone thinking that he's fighting Khan or Thurman is crazy. Won't happen.

ikorolev wrote:

KBB wrote:

ikorolev wrote:Brut, where is your objectivity you talk about so much ? At 154, is there a more dangerous opponent than GGG ? If not, what is so wrong with Floyd fighting him ?

LOL to you asking me about objectivity when 3G isn't even at 154, we all know what you're about.

GGG should be facing Ward or someone else who has called him out like Lara but you cannot see that your boy is ducking those two fights because you have no objectivity.

As everybody else, GGG wants a money fight. Lara brings absolutely nothing to the table in terms of money. Being a LMW, he will not add much to Gennady's resume either. A win over Ward would be great to have, but there is not enough money on the table (at least that we know of), so both of them don't want to face each other and take a huge risk until enough money is found by their promoters.

You are displaying great objectivity again shifting the subject from who Floyd needs to face to prove his alleged TBE status to who other fighters need to face. You always find excuses for Floyd.

Sounds like a big DUCK excuse to me!!

KBB wrote:

ikorolev wrote: As everybody else, GGG wants a money fight. Lara brings absolutely nothing to the table in terms of money. Being a LMW, he will not add much to Gennady's resume either. A win over Ward would be great to have, but there is not enough money on the table (at least that we know of), so both of them don't want to face each other and take a huge risk until enough money is found by their promoters.

You are displaying great objectivity again shifting the subject from who Floyd needs to face to prove his alleged TBE status to who other fighters need to face. You always find excuses for Floyd.

Sounds like a big DUCK excuse to me!!

Very f4cking objective again. Taking one part of somebody's reasoning and avoiding the other part. You should not use the word objective ever again.

moogie101 wrote:Two fights away from breaking that record & being able to retire undefeated at 50.0 & people honestly think the GGG is even a consideration?

I get that the Floyd hatred is kicking into overdrive but to even suggest this fight with Mayweather going up in weight is just insane.

Atlas wants it and he's anything but a Floyd hater
http://www.BS.com/atlas-forget ... kin--90639

ikorolev wrote:Very f4cking objective again. Taking one part of somebody's reasoning and avoiding the other part. You should not use the word objective ever again.

You challenging me about being objective because you wanted me to avoid the BS excuses you made about Triple G wanting a big paycheck, if Floyd was the fighter up and coming and hadn't beaten anyone in the P4P listing and this was the other way around, I'm sure that given the track record you have here you'd be the first to scream about how much he doesn't deserve a shot at him.

Get lost and take your non objective fairytales with you.

KBB wrote:

ikorolev wrote:Brut, where is your objectivity you talk about so much ? At 154, is there a more dangerous opponent than GGG ? If not, what is so wrong with Floyd fighting him ?

LOL to you asking me about objectivity when 3G isn't even at 154, we all know what you're about.

GGG should be facing Ward or someone else who has called him out like Lara but you cannot see that your boy is ducking those two fights because you have no objectivity.

So, has Lara fought at 160 ? Go back to school and learn some logic. You are making mockery out of yourself.