Kingpin thinks he can beat AJ

[ScottDetonator]

Yes, he would.

No, he wouldn't.

When you are stopped you lose your never been stopped image.

Not if you haven't been stopped.

[Horse]

Not if you haven't been stopped.

If you are stopped, then you are stopped.

Pulling out with a silly injury excuse is still going to lose him his "never been stopped" label.

[Galvanised Clout]

Horse is prolific today and a little prickly it must be said

[ScottDetonator]

Not if you haven't been stopped.

If you are stopped, then you are stopped.

Pulling out with a silly injury excuse is still going to lose him his "never been stopped" label.

Not if you haven't actually been stopped.

[handsofstone]

Kinda similar to Vitali,both of his defeats were due to injury,they came inside the distance but I wouldn't consider him being stopped

But his record will say 2(2) losses

[Horse]

Not if you haven't actually been stopped.

Pulling out is a stoppage loss.

He will simply not have a never been stopped reputation if he pulls out. End of story. He couldn't be sold like that any more.

[Horse]

Horse is prolific today and a little prickly it must be said

Sometimes it's difficult to be nice when you're arguing.

[ScottDetonator]

Not if you haven't actually been stopped.

Pulling out is a stoppage loss.

He will simply not have a never been stopped reputation if he pulls out. End of story. He couldn't be sold like that any more.

But if he hasn't been stopped, then he hasn't been stopped.

[Horse]

But if he hasn't been stopped, then he hasn't been stopped.

[ScottDetonator]

But if he hasn't been stopped, then he hasn't been stopped.

It's okay to admit you are wrong

[Horse]

It's okay to admit you are wrong

[WelshDevil]

"Kingpin" once claimed to have a jab like Larry Holmes or better. Now, he is a defensive survivor. He will take advantage late, if the prospect/opponent is shattered and that is what he will try and do against Joshua - wait and see if Joshua tires.

His real ambition is nil.

[cold187]

nah look at johnson last 3 defeats and see who they went on to lose to

Johnson is all bark no bite

Did you watch those fights?

yes, he was scared to throw a punch

[danamba7]

I don't like him. Sky have forced him down our throats so much that I have gone the other way. We, the fans, will decide who the future peoples champion is, not Eddie Hearn.

Liking someone who is hyped doesn't automatically make you a conformist. Chill out man, they're not all out to get ya.

[Horse]

yes, he was scared to throw a punch

But he did throw punches and his fights with Charr and Hammer were close.

nah look at johnson last 3 defeats and see who they went on to lose to

Charr went on to lose to Povetkin (No. 2 ranked heavyweight in the world) and then was unlucky to not get the decision against Duhaupas (I had it 97-94 Charr).

Hammer & Chisora lost to Fury (the No. 3 ranked heavyweight in the world).

Why did you say that like they went on to lose to journeymen instead of highly ranked world class fighters?

[Galvanised Clout]

I had it 97-94 Charr

[mickey1975]

I don't like him. Sky have forced him down our throats so much that I have gone the other way. We, the fans, will decide who the future peoples champion is, not Eddie Hearn.

Liking someone who is hyped doesn't automatically make you a conformist. Chill out man, they're not all out to get ya.

No. I don't like the casual fans he attracts, either. They all seen to assume he's a cert for greatness based on 12 knock over jobs. They must have missed his controversial Olympic wins.

[Horse]

Something wrong with my scorecard?

[danamba7]

I don't like him. Sky have forced him down our throats so much that I have gone the other way. We, the fans, will decide who the future peoples champion is, not Eddie Hearn.

Liking someone who is hyped doesn't automatically make you a conformist. Chill out man, they're not all out to get ya.

No. I don't like the casual fans he attracts, either. They all seen to assume he's a cert for greatness based on 12 knock over jobs. They must have missed his controversial Olympic wins.

Can get annoying I agree. I'll still back him though. He has the potential to become a massive crossover star and draw more people to the sport. He could be great for British boxing.

[mickey1975]

I don't think so. I can't see him winning a world title, and if he does, Al Haymon will take him. Eddie doesn't have the power to control the Heavyweight champ.

[danamba7]

I don't think so. I can't see him winning a world title, and if he does, Al Haymon will take him. Eddie doesn't have the power to control the Heavyweight champ.

Seriously? Even when Wlad's retired??

[Galvanised Clout]

Something wrong with my scorecard?

Charr lost that pretty clearly Horse.

[Galvanised Clout]

I don't think so. I can't see him winning a world title, and if he does, Al Haymon will take him. Eddie doesn't have the power to control the Heavyweight champ.

Do you think Haymon will be around that long?

I think he could be another Harold J. Smith.

[Horse]

Charr lost that pretty clearly Horse.

No, he didn't.

[Galvanised Clout]

Charr lost that pretty clearly Horse.

No, he didn't.