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Re: What next for Saul Alvarez ?

Posted: 10 May 2015, 17:52
by Chepppaaa
fergusg wrote:
Chepppaaa wrote:Jermell Charlo
Demetrius Andrade

are next.

cotto is out, i dont wanna see him anymore, with his crap refusing to box canelo or ggg.
So you reckon that Haymon is going to allow his charge, Jermell Charlo, to face Canelo, which would help fund GBP's $300m lawsuit against himself?

Anyone with a fully-functional brain would consider the prospects of this bout as highly unrealistic.

I believe that Andrade is also looking to join Haymon's stable, so it's a double-whammy.

Haymon isn't doing business with HBO or GBP anytime soon.

The rumour mill speculates that HBO only rubber-stamped Cotto's Aussie opponent as long as he faces Canelo next.

Therefore, I expect Canelo to have an interim bout against a very low-risk and beatable opponent, such as Cornelius Bundrage, before his eagerly anticipated fight with Cotto in the Autumn.
cornelius bundrage hahahaha...the guy is was smaller than manny pacquiao......cornelius aka midget bundrage hahahaha.....great idea

Re: What next for Saul Alvarez ?

Posted: 11 May 2015, 19:55
by Bobbyptsd
The guy gives you a perfectly well reasoned and thought out post, and your response is akin to: "lolololXDHAHAHA"

Fecking twit.

Re: What next for Saul Alvarez ?

Posted: 13 May 2015, 04:57
by 5burowz
Invest in a new team
Invest in some stamina
Get the fornicate outta his garage and train like a real fighter

Re: What next for Saul Alvarez ?

Posted: 14 May 2015, 12:57
by Tanzio
5burowz wrote:Invest in a new team
Invest in some stamina
Get the eff outta his garage and train like a real fighter
Can't disagree with the stamina issue. He needs to consult experts on the subject who can analyze his particular physiology and give him a prescription for improvement. Or, study Marciano who could punch nearly nonstop for 15 rounds.

GingerHead is unpredictable but no matter who he fights he will be paid well. His popularity is significant. He is my wife's favorite fighter. That says something given my wife is a proud Russian.

Re: What next for Saul Alvarez ?

Posted: 14 May 2015, 13:03
by Ricky_
At this point if i were Canelo i'd be desperate for a Floyd fight with no catchweight BS, even if that meant giving up about 85% of the purse to get it. Kid has his whole life ahead to make money, avenging his sole defeat think should be his own personal goal as there ain't much left to do at 154. His wins over Trout and Lara are disputed but those are tough guys to beat on the cards, he should take those W's and run with them.

Re: What next for Saul Alvarez ?

Posted: 14 May 2015, 13:22
by KBB
Canelo should focus on anyone but Floyd because he, just like Manny Pacquiao will never, ever in this life will be able to beat Floyd. If Canelo was smart then he'd move to 160 before he outgrows 154 and have to cut so much weight that it weakens him just trying to make Jr. MW, once he declares he is a bonafide MW then he should pursue Cotto regardless of whether or not Mayweather wants that bout.

If he gets past Cotto then he should immediately go after GGG, win, lose or draw vs GGG it will be a great fight for him to show his toughness and willingness to take on all comers and not offer lame excuses like "I'm afraid of needles/having blood drawn weakens me" or "I'm only a MW when a bigger fighter asks for a bout with him and then state I'm willing to move down though."

So Canelo, vacate 154, you have nothing to prove there, you've already beaten pretty much all those who are considered the real elites barring Mayweather, no more ridiculous weight cutting/go to 160 and get your big paydays.

Re: What next for Saul Alvarez ?

Posted: 14 May 2015, 14:01
by Tanzio
KBB wrote:no more ridiculous weight cutting
Correct, he should never again agree to fight at 152.

Re: What next for Saul Alvarez ?

Posted: 14 May 2015, 16:54
by KBB
Tanzio wrote:
KBB wrote:no more ridiculous weight cutting
Correct, he should never again agree to fight at 152.
Especially since he was the one who said he wanted it. http://www.BS.com/saul-alvarez ... -jr--46563

The same idiots still here crying about Canelo losing 2lbs say nothing about what Manny did to Cotto!!

Re: What next for Saul Alvarez ?

Posted: 14 May 2015, 21:08
by Tanzio
KBB wrote:
Tanzio wrote:
KBB wrote:no more ridiculous weight cutting
Correct, he should never again agree to fight at 152.
Especially since he was the one who said he wanted it. http://www.BS.com/saul-alvarez ... -jr--46563

The same idiots still here crying about Canelo losing 2lbs say nothing about what Manny did to Cotto!!
Of course he wanted that payday and that publicity, but he doesn't need to fight at that weight anymore, and he doesn't need FMJ. Simple facts are tough for Floydiots, including turB, to digest.

Fact; FMJ won the 154 title at 152. It was an excellent win, but it is what it is.

Fact; FMJ will never fight 3G for the MW title (and he shouldn't), although he is certainly considering fighting Cotto for his, at somewhere between 154.5 and 157.5.

Back to the actual subject of the thread; Canelo could probably handle Quillin right now. It would be a considerable risk but it would set up a mega option with Cotto (at a catch weight of about 156.5).

Re: What next for Saul Alvarez ?

Posted: 15 May 2015, 00:12
by KBB
Tanzio wrote:
KBB wrote:Of course he wanted that payday and that publicity, but he doesn't need to fight at that weight anymore, and he doesn't need FMJ. Simple facts are tough for Floydiots, including turB, to digest.

Fact; FMJ won the 154 title at 152. It was an excellent win, but it is what it is.

Fact; FMJ will never fight 3G for the MW title (and he shouldn't), although he is certainly considering fighting Cotto for his, at somewhere between 154.5 and 157.5.

Back to the actual subject of the thread; Canelo could probably handle Quillin right now. It would be a considerable risk but it would set up a mega option with Cotto (at a catch weight of about 156.5).
You should stay on the subject at hand because if you were thinking that I was even remotely suggesting seeing them fight again no matter what weight the bout is at, then you are obviously here just to hate and don't really know what I'm about.

Who cares if Floyd doesn't want to fight GGG who will be over 168lbs on fight night against him, what sense does that make? Cotto doesn't come nowhere close to rehydrating at the weight Golovkin does and we all know that Mayweather usually loses weight on fight night.

So remind us who is riding who? Floyd should face Cotto just as GGG should face Lara if he wants to drop down so badly or he should move up and fight someone that is close to his size like Ward.

Stop coming here just to hate and state simpleminded and false Bullsh*t dickhead.

Re: What next for Saul Alvarez ?

Posted: 15 May 2015, 00:58
by Tanzio
KBB wrote:
Tanzio wrote:
KBB wrote:Of course he wanted that payday and that publicity, but he doesn't need to fight at that weight anymore, and he doesn't need FMJ. Simple facts are tough for Floydiots, including turB, to digest.

Fact; FMJ won the 154 title at 152. It was an excellent win, but it is what it is.

Fact; FMJ will never fight 3G for the MW title (and he shouldn't), although he is certainly considering fighting Cotto for his, at somewhere between 154.5 and 157.5.

Back to the actual subject of the thread; Canelo could probably handle Quillin right now. It would be a considerable risk but it would set up a mega option with Cotto (at a catch weight of about 156.5).
You should stay on the subject at hand because if you were thinking that I was even remotely suggesting seeing them fight again no matter what weight the bout is at, then you are obviously here just to hate and don't really know what I'm about.

Who cares if Floyd doesn't want to fight GGG who will be over 168lbs on fight night against him, what sense does that make? Cotto doesn't come nowhere close to rehydrating at the weight Golovkin does and we all know that Mayweather usually loses weight on fight night.

So remind us who is riding who? Floyd should face Cotto just as GGG should face Lara if he wants to drop down so badly or he should move up and fight someone that is close to his size like Ward.

Stop coming here just to hate and state simpleminded and false Bullsh*t dickhead.
turB, you are a Floydiot. You have admitted to it. It's ok. You certainly are not lonely on here.

FMJ is not alone with ridiculous catch weight demands. Cotto has Geale coming down to what, 157.5? As a result I hope Geale not only wins but does so by brutal beat down. Maybe GingerHead will demand a catch weight for 3G. Who knows? Hopefully, Porter will destroy Broner. I hate all catch weight BS.

FMJ still owns a 152 title in my opinion.

Re: What next for Saul Alvarez ?

Posted: 15 May 2015, 03:16
by Deadendgeneration
KBB wrote:
You should stay on the subject at hand because if you were thinking that I was even remotely suggesting seeing them fight again no matter what weight the bout is at, then you are obviously here just to hate and don't really know what I'm about.

Who cares if Floyd doesn't want to fight GGG who will be over 168lbs on fight night against him, what sense does that make? Cotto doesn't come nowhere close to rehydrating at the weight Golovkin does and we all know that Mayweather usually loses weight on fight night.

So remind us who is riding who? Floyd should face Cotto just as GGG should face Lara if he wants to drop down so badly or he should move up and fight someone that is close to his size like Ward.

Stop coming here just to hate and state simpleminded and false Bullsh*t dickhead.

Who cares if GGG doesn't want to fight Ward who'll be over 180Ibs on fight night against him, what sense does that make?

Ward is fighting at closer to light heavyweight in his next bout, and has as much business calling out GGG as GGG does Floyd. Cotto on the other hand is the lineal middleweight champion and should, but won't, fight GGG. Both Ward and GGG are just keeping their names out there by talking about more popular fighters. Neither really expects to get that fight. Hell Ward even called Floyd out a while back.

Re: What next for Saul Alvarez ?

Posted: 15 May 2015, 07:16
by KBB
Deadendgeneration wrote:Who cares if GGG doesn't want to fight Ward who'll be over 180Ibs on fight night against him, what sense does that make?

Ward is fighting at closer to light heavyweight in his next bout, and has as much business calling out GGG as GGG does Floyd. Cotto on the other hand is the lineal middleweight champion and should, but won't, fight GGG. Both Ward and GGG are just keeping their names out there by talking about more popular fighters. Neither really expects to get that fight. Hell Ward even called Floyd out a while back.
Obviously the person who cares here is Ikey, he is sooooo BUTTHURT that Floyd beat Manny now he is looking for everyone from GGG to Klitschko to do what Pacquiao was intellectually deficient in being able to do (Beat Mayweather).

Personally I wouldn't mind if GGG stayed at 160 and cleaned it out like Hagler did but the idiots continue making a case for him to go to 154 for Floyd but won't even bother to say he should go to 154 for Lara (who has called him out), furthermore they won't admit that Golovkin has done absolutely nothing that warrants a shot at Floyd, there are WWs who are more deserving than he is.

So I'm cool with GGG not even having to fight Ward but the minute these idiots throw Floyd in the mix then I will throw Ward, Lara and others like Dirrell who have called GGG out in the mix because they are naturally bigger and all have called him out to which he hasn't bothered to fight any of them but is somehow thinking he earned a shot at Floyd.

Re: What next for Saul Alvarez ?

Posted: 15 May 2015, 13:01
by Bobbyptsd
Deadendgeneration wrote:
KBB wrote:
You should stay on the subject at hand because if you were thinking that I was even remotely suggesting seeing them fight again no matter what weight the bout is at, then you are obviously here just to hate and don't really know what I'm about.

Who cares if Floyd doesn't want to fight GGG who will be over 168lbs on fight night against him, what sense does that make? Cotto doesn't come nowhere close to rehydrating at the weight Golovkin does and we all know that Mayweather usually loses weight on fight night.

So remind us who is riding who? Floyd should face Cotto just as GGG should face Lara if he wants to drop down so badly or he should move up and fight someone that is close to his size like Ward.

Stop coming here just to hate and state simpleminded and false Bullsh*t dickhead.

Who cares if GGG doesn't want to fight Ward who'll be over 180Ibs on fight night against him, what sense does that make?

Ward is fighting at closer to light heavyweight in his next bout, and has as much business calling out GGG as GGG does Floyd. Cotto on the other hand is the lineal middleweight champion and should, but won't, fight GGG. Both Ward and GGG are just keeping their names out there by talking about more popular fighters. Neither really expects to get that fight. Hell Ward even called Floyd out a while back.
Ward is fighting Smith at light heavyweight. +168 is light heavy, it's an upper, not a lower weight limit. . Not to be pedantic, but I figure it's worth pointing out, it just furthers your point anyway.

Re: What next for Saul Alvarez ?

Posted: 15 May 2015, 15:31
by KBB
Tanzio wrote:turB, you are a Floydiot. You have admitted to it. It's ok. You certainly are not lonely on here.

FMJ is not alone with ridiculous catch weight demands. Cotto has Geale coming down to what, 157.5? As a result I hope Geale not only wins but does so by brutal beat down. Maybe GingerHead will demand a catch weight for 3G. Who knows? Hopefully, Porter will destroy Broner. I hate all catch weight BS.

FMJ still owns a 152 title in my opinion.
A Floydiot cannot admit that he believes Floyd lost to Castillo, a Floydiot cannot admit that Judah knocked Mayweather down, a Floydiot applauds all the stupid antics Mayweather has done outside of the ring.

I've admitted that I believe Mayweather was given a gift in the first fight vs Castillo
I've admitted that Judah knocked him down legitimately but it was not counted as it should've been
I do not condone Mayweather's past (notice that's what it is now) behavior and conduct outside of the ring

I am of the variety however that believes he is the best skillwise that I've ever seen in the ring and I've seen just about every top boxer in the world to compare him with and none of the others have come close to doing what he does in the ring.

If that makes me a Floydiot for being a fan of his skills in the ring, then so be it!

Watch CW demands did Floyd make?? I know you are going to say Canelo, but let's not forget it was Saul who said he'd fight at that weight, not Mayweather asking him to go to it, you'll probably mention the JMM bout but again, the onus was on JMM to make 147 and be as big as he was vs MP and win the fight. Do you think weight mattered in either bout? Give both of them equal weight to Floyd or Floyd equal weight to either of them, now do you think either would've won??

I thought Floyd should've honored his agreed upon weight for the JMM fight, he didn't and he paid the man handsomely for it, still the weight difference between them had absolutely nothing to do with why Marquez lost that fight no more so than it did in the Canelo fight.

Re: What next for Saul Alvarez ?

Posted: 15 May 2015, 15:41
by hurricanemitch14
Thwy keep winning it will be big but it will never do floyd/pac numbers. It would be a better fight tho.

Re: What next for Saul Alvarez ?

Posted: 15 May 2015, 18:03
by Monte Fisto
KBB wrote:
Tanzio wrote:turB, you are a Floydiot. You have admitted to it. It's ok. You certainly are not lonely on here.

FMJ is not alone with ridiculous catch weight demands. Cotto has Geale coming down to what, 157.5? As a result I hope Geale not only wins but does so by brutal beat down. Maybe GingerHead will demand a catch weight for 3G. Who knows? Hopefully, Porter will destroy Broner. I hate all catch weight BS.

FMJ still owns a 152 title in my opinion.
A Floydiot cannot admit that he believes Floyd lost to Castillo, a Floydiot cannot admit that Judah knocked Mayweather down, a Floydiot applauds all the stupid antics Mayweather has done outside of the ring.

I've admitted that I believe Mayweather was given a gift in the first fight vs Castillo
I've admitted that Judah knocked him down legitimately but it was not counted as it should've been
I do not condone Mayweather's past (notice that's what it is now) behavior and conduct outside of the ring

I am of the variety however that believes he is the best skillwise that I've ever seen in the ring and I've seen just about every top boxer in the world to compare him with and none of the others have come close to doing what he does in the ring.

If that makes me a Floydiot for being a fan of his skills in the ring, then so be it!

Watch CW demands did Floyd make?? I know you are going to say Canelo, but let's not forget it was Saul who said he'd fight at that weight, not Mayweather asking him to go to it, you'll probably mention the JMM bout but again, the onus was on JMM to make 147 and be as big as he was vs MP and win the fight. Do you think weight mattered in either bout? Give both of them equal weight to Floyd or Floyd equal weight to either of them, now do you think either would've won??

I thought Floyd should've honored his agreed upon weight for the JMM fight, he didn't and he paid the man handsomely for it, still the weight difference between them had absolutely nothing to do with why Marquez lost that fight no more so than it did in the Canelo fight.
i like your terminology, 'admitted'.... glad you plucked up the courage. :OhYes:

Re: What next for Saul Alvarez ?

Posted: 15 May 2015, 18:10
by Monte Fisto
Maidana might be able to get down to Canelo's weight in a year?