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Re: Finally Roman Gonzalez on TV

Posted: 17 May 2015, 08:07
by handsofstone
Gonzalez stole the show as expected, he was brutal in his finishing but I love his footwork, he's always stalking and in range,it must be a nightmare to fight against someone so polished and in control,he made Sosa look like a journeyman ,can't wait to see him again,hopefully won't have to wait too long

It wasn't the greatest performance I've seen from Golovkin but he still got the job done,the left hook for the 1st KD was textbook, I loved the way he dipped to the left then just froze before unleashing the shot,fair play to Monroe,he's a skillful fighter who'd easily beat Taylor, the ref nearly ballzd it up by giving a long count,it was clear Willie didn't want to contine but Jack made him quit

If somehow Monroe was to have fought on to get the win then the GGG camp would rightly be fuming,

Re: Finally Roman Gonzalez on TV

Posted: 17 May 2015, 08:24
by Boxing Prospect
MightyWarrior wrote:Roman Gonzalez: WOW. What a fighter, looks like he's making a case for pound for P4P#1 already, certainly showing Floyd how to put on a show for the fans, not that Mayweather's interested.
A genuine superfight looms with Japanese sensation Inoue a division up, HBO might push for that - only problem might be the Japanese star has only had a handful of fights, and they may be reluctant to put him in with a destroyer like RG too soon.

Another routine win for GGG, horrified to see numbskull referee Jack Reese getting the big gigs , he's obviously got equally dumb friends in high places, but actually had a decent flight until he made incredibly brave Munroe have to say I've had enough, rather than count the guy out which would have been the decent and honourable thing to do.
Inoue's camp have said they are open to the fight with the Ohashi gym being a promotional outfit that allows their fighters tonight bouts against the likes of Gonzalez. Unlike British promoters a lot of the Japanese promoters don't mind a fighter picking up a loss. I would however suspect that the bout would be next year at the earliest after hand issues have plagued Inoue's 2015 so far.

Re: Finally Roman Gonzalez on TV

Posted: 17 May 2015, 08:31
by Counter-puncher
RE my post on CS, Inoue/ultimately ending up at 118-122/Gonzo weight-disadvantaged/not sure the stars align on that one......

Re: Finally Roman Gonzalez on TV

Posted: 17 May 2015, 08:43
by handsofstone
This months BM mentioned Gonzalez was unbeaten as an amateur as well but Rawling said last night he was beaten once

Re: Finally Roman Gonzalez on TV

Posted: 17 May 2015, 08:49
by Boxing Prospect
handsofstone wrote:This months BM mentioned Gonzalez was unbeaten as an amateur as well but Rawling said last night he was beaten once
Teiken have him listed as being unbeaten... Amateur records are often disputed.

Re: Finally Roman Gonzalez on TV

Posted: 17 May 2015, 10:03
by handsofstone
Boxing Prospect wrote:
handsofstone wrote:This months BM mentioned Gonzalez was unbeaten as an amateur as well but Rawling said last night he was beaten once
Teiken have him listed as being unbeaten... Amateur records are often disputed.[/quote
:TU:

There not many fighters whose feet I watch more than there hands but Gonzalez is that guy,even when watching him on YouTube, I was mesmerized by his footwork, he looks like he can write THE book on pugilism

Re: Finally Roman Gonzalez on TV

Posted: 17 May 2015, 10:06
by Counter-puncher
Its the way he shifts his weight through his hips whilst moving, means hes always on balance to throw a hard shot even while hes changing angles. And he certainly would show most fighters a thing or two about how to cut the ring off.

Re: Finally Roman Gonzalez on TV

Posted: 17 May 2015, 12:29
by Tomasino
Amazing performance. Sosa knew he was done for. Speed, footwork, timing, power, body positioning, feinting all the skills of an all time great. It would be great if he could eclipse FMJs potential 50-0. My favourite fighter just now.

Re: Finally Roman Gonzalez on TV

Posted: 17 May 2015, 12:34
by Horse
Tomasino wrote:It would be great if he could eclipse FMJs potential 50-0. My favourite fighter just now.
Gonzalez's 50-0 wouldn't be as good as Mayweather's.

Re: Finally Roman Gonzalez on TV

Posted: 17 May 2015, 13:02
by Stuarty
Very impressed with this guy and it seems as though the Americans are excited too! I couldn't believe when they said it was the first featured fight at this weight since Romero twenty years ago! Madness! Can't wait to see him again. So cool and controlled.

Re: Finally Roman Gonzalez on TV

Posted: 17 May 2015, 13:07
by Stuarty
handsofstone wrote:This months BM mentioned Gonzalez was unbeaten as an amateur as well but Rawling said last night he was beaten once
Yeah I noticed that. I think they said in the studio he was unbeaten in 88 fights or something then Rawling said he won 79 and lost 1 which he said was a bad decision lol. Conflicting stories. Suppose it doesn't matter on the grand scheme of things really.

Re: Finally Roman Gonzalez on TV

Posted: 17 May 2015, 17:01
by handsofstone
I mentioned in the OP that Gonzalez probably wouldn't get the love and credit from the US fans/media with him being a little'un but they seemed to love him,surely the networks will be queuing up to get him,Max Kellerman seemed genuinely impressed

I'd love to see him and Golovkin fighting on the same bill again,luckily they seem to be 2 of the most active champions in the sport,showing the rest of the champs how a real champion becomes great

Other titlists take note

Re: Finally Roman Gonzalez on TV

Posted: 18 May 2015, 13:32
by magwitch
digzee wrote:
TerribleTerry wrote:https://youtu.be/3rq8iKZnRyc
Brilliant video :bow:
Angles and positions of advantage are achieved by the use of good footwork. Could only manage 6 or 7 minutes of that.

Re: Finally Roman Gonzalez on TV

Posted: 18 May 2015, 13:38
by handsofstone
I've never noticed anyone cut the ring off so easily and effectively as Gonzalez, that was something I liked on that Youtube clip and other vids I've seen of him,he makes Golovkin look like a plodder

It still amazes me when I see pro boxers, including world champions follow their opponent with cutting the ring off

Re: Finally Roman Gonzalez on TV

Posted: 19 May 2015, 01:32
by crusader
Horse wrote:
Tomasino wrote:It would be great if he could eclipse FMJs potential 50-0. My favourite fighter just now.
Gonzalez's 50-0 wouldn't be as good as Mayweather's.
That's likely true, and if you want to consider level of opposition even Mayweather's 50-0 wouldn't be as good as other fighter's records that have losses on them. The thing that gets me about arguments over the relative quality of Chavez's 87-0, Marciano's 49-0, and Mayweather's 48-0 is that by only talking about those records, and despite the ostensible focus on quality, people are implicitly emphasizing superficial figures (number of wins and lack of losses) at quality's expense.

If people celebrate someone for breaking a record that is numerically based they should stick to the relevant numerics, as once you veer outside that and consider quality of opposition there are plenty of fighters with stronger resumes.

Re: Finally Roman Gonzalez on TV

Posted: 19 May 2015, 09:09
by THEBUTCH
Gonzalez didn't let the fans down. Wind him up and watch him go ! The guy throws a blistering array of shots, at speed, but a lot of quality too.

Re: Finally Roman Gonzalez on TV

Posted: 19 May 2015, 09:20
by Boxing Prospect
crusader wrote:
Horse wrote:
Tomasino wrote:It would be great if he could eclipse FMJs potential 50-0. My favourite fighter just now.
Gonzalez's 50-0 wouldn't be as good as Mayweather's.
That's likely true, and if you want to consider level of opposition even Mayweather's 50-0 wouldn't be as good as other fighter's records that have losses on them. The thing that gets me about arguments over the relative quality of Chavez's 87-0, Marciano's 49-0, and Mayweather's 48-0 is that by only talking about those records, and despite the ostensible focus on quality, people are implicitly emphasizing superficial figures (number of wins and lack of losses) at quality's expense.

If people celebrate someone for breaking a record that is numerically based they should stick to the relevant numerics, as once you veer outside that and consider quality of opposition there are plenty of fighters with stronger resumes.
To back up this point, I believe the longest active winning streak at the moment, is held by Noknoi Sitthiprasert who has won over 50 successive bouts*. His competition has been embarrassing but he's been running up those wins.

*Noknoi's record is missing at least 1 more recent win though I'd not be shocked to see him missing several.

Re: Finally Roman Gonzalez on TV

Posted: 20 May 2015, 08:06
by jamesmcdonnell
I've not seen this guy fight yet, but I really want to.

I actually forgot that I had a allegedly subscription - and realised I'd been missing loads of boxing. I understand this fight was on the other night, I tuned in, but was late, and only saw the

Sounds like a good idea to put this guy and GGG on some more shows together, good way to build followings for both, as who doesn't like to watch at least 2 guaranteed batterings on the evenings card?

Re: Finally Roman Gonzalez on TV

Posted: 20 May 2015, 08:15
by jamesmcdonnell
handsofstone wrote:
Boxing Prospect wrote:
handsofstone wrote:This months BM mentioned Gonzalez was unbeaten as an amateur as well but Rawling said last night he was beaten once
Teiken have him listed as being unbeaten... Amateur records are often disputed.[/quote
:TU:

There not many fighters whose feet I watch more than there hands but Gonzalez is that guy,even when watching him on YouTube, I was mesmerized by his footwork, he looks like he can write THE book on pugilism
Yes, great economy of footwork, always facing his opponent no matter where he moves, and commanding the centre of the ring. He uses very little energy, whilst they end up doing big circles around the ring, until he levers them into position and lines them up for the combination.

It's a shame there's no real stars at his weight, a fight with Rigondeaux looks to be the only way he's going to get the kind of fight his talent deserves.

Re: Finally Roman Gonzalez on TV

Posted: 21 May 2015, 09:36
by veriton
shame he wasn't around when pongsaklek wonjongkam held this belt, what a fight that would have been. pongsaklek trounced sosa years ago.