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Re: GGG spoiler

Posted: 17 May 2015, 13:29
by Horse
Ghost Train wrote:As good as anyone I'd say.
Well if Froch, Hopkins, Ward, Cotto or Alvarez want to fight him then they are all better opponents than Lara.

Re: GGG spoiler

Posted: 17 May 2015, 13:29
by handsofstone
Terminator666 wrote:Would the Canelo fight be at middleweight if happened?
I know Golovkin said he can make 154 but I'm sure Alvarez would like to become a 2 weight champ,in saying that Canelo might go into a fight with GGG as WBC champ assuming he fights and beats Cotto

I suspect some sort of catchweight situation where Gennady has to fight with an arm tied behind his back

Re: GGG spoiler

Posted: 17 May 2015, 13:52
by Horse
Ghost Train wrote:
Horse wrote:Well if Froch, Hopkins, Ward, Cotto or Alvarez want to fight him then they are all better opponents than Lara.
You're being more than a little obtuse with that comment Horse, you clearly stated:
Horse wrote:Golovkin should probably fight Lara next, since I don't think there's anyone better who's interested.
With that comment you YOURSELF tacitly imply that Froch, Hopkins, Ward, Cotto, Alvarez have shown NO desire to face GGG.

THUS Lara is 'probably' the 'best' of the second tier contenders who COULD face GGG.
I thought you might be implying that Lara is as good as anyone Golovkin could fight regardless of whether they are interested or not.

Calling me obtuse for my response is a little bit much.

Re: GGG spoiler

Posted: 17 May 2015, 15:08
by Horse
Ghost Train wrote:If I'd just made a random post stating 'Lara is as good as anyone' YES you may have been forgiven for think that.

However as my comment about Lara was made in response to your post, where you stated 'no one else is interested' I can't see how there was/is any ambiguity.
There was definite ambiguity in your statement.

Re: GGG spoiler

Posted: 17 May 2015, 15:40
by Horse
Ghost Train wrote:No I don't think so Horse, I don't want to get into the realms of semantics (especially with someone so ill equipped to comprehend me) but the misunderstanding is on YOUR side (I suspect you know that already, but you're simply being petty, small minded and argumentative as you have been for TOO many years, go 'play' with someone else now, there's a good boy)
If you don't want people to misunderstand you then make your points more clearly.

Re: GGG spoiler

Posted: 17 May 2015, 16:09
by Old bones Ian
I can't see a Canelo fight too soon, I think the mexicans management will get his a couple more fights first. And see if he grows to middle, or they might come forward with a catchweight fight. Golovkin has already stated that he might be able to get down to light middle if the really big fights were there,, i i think he would be best just above that weight.

Re: GGG spoiler

Posted: 17 May 2015, 16:16
by ALI
Coco wrote:I can't wait untill GGG steps up in class
I'm fed up waiting. This guy had 350 amatuer fights, winning 345, he has been a pro for 9 years now, he is 33 & 0 with 30 KO's having stopped his last 20 opponents in a row. He's 33 years old, if he cant get Cotto or Canelo next he must move up to SuperMiddle.

Enoughs really is enough, he must fight elite names now, no excuses. Monroe Jr was 100/1 against going into last nights fight FFS!

Re: GGG spoiler

Posted: 17 May 2015, 16:23
by handsofstone
I can't understand why Oscar thinks Alvarez will be ready for Golovkin in 2 years,Saul's already been world champion, mixed with the very best,been a pro since he was 15 yet they want to wait until Gennady's 35

Disgraceful state of affairs if I'm not missing something

Re: GGG spoiler

Posted: 17 May 2015, 16:46
by Stuarty
Ghost Train wrote:
Horse wrote:If you don't want people to misunderstand you then make your points more clearly.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oqc8BdGlxGg
:lol:

Re: GGG spoiler

Posted: 17 May 2015, 17:00
by Shambles
G0mez wrote:They said afterwards that they pretty much carried Monroe to give the fans something to watch after the Rubio blowout. If he'd blown him away, the next mediocre opponent would have been very hard to shift tickets for.
I don't believe that at all, you don't 'let' someone back in to a fight, it's just too risky even against a light puncher like Munroe. GGG's post fight interview was cringe worthy, what utter drivel talking about giving Munroe a chance to provide 'drama' for the fans. Try doing that against a puncher and see what happens.

Re: GGG spoiler

Posted: 17 May 2015, 17:32
by ALI
Ghost Train wrote:
ALI wrote:He must move up to SuperMiddle
Why 'must he' he's a middleweight?

Carlos Monzon and Marvin Hagler both spent their entire careers at their natural weight (Monzon was offered Bob Foster/Hagler was offered Michael Spinks) perhaps Golovkin wants to do the same.
Because he has never fouht an elite opponent and other than Cotto there is no elite fighters at middleweight for him to fight. The Cotto fight may never happen, and something tells me Canelo's team are in no rush to fight him. What then, the Andy Lee's and Peter Quillins of the world? And even tfights with those guys are not gauranteed. Other than Cotto/Canelo there is NOTHING at middleweight for him.

Dont forget, it was Golovkin and his team who said they would take on anyone from 154 to 168. Its time to deliver on that promise now.

Re: GGG spoiler

Posted: 17 May 2015, 17:34
by ALI
ALI wrote:
Ghost Train wrote:
ALI wrote:He must move up to SuperMiddle
Why 'must he' he's a middleweight?

Carlos Monzon and Marvin Hagler both spent their entire careers at their natural weight (Monzon was offered Bob Foster/Hagler was offered Michael Spinks) perhaps Golovkin wants to do the same.
Because he has never fouht an elite opponent and other than Cotto there is no elite fighters at middleweight for him to fight. The Cotto fight may never happen, and something tells me Canelo's team are in no rush to fight him. What then, the Andy Lee's and Peter Quillins of the world? And even tfights with those guys are not gauranteed. Other than Cotto/Canelo there is NOTHING at middleweight for him, the division sucks right now.

Dont forget, it was Golovkin and his team who said they would take on anyone from 154 to 168. Its time to deliver on that promise now.

Re: GGG spoiler

Posted: 17 May 2015, 17:40
by MightyWarrior
There was no supermiddle option for Monzon & Hagler, just a long leap to light-heavy, I don't know if he can carry the weight at 168, because he seems a little on the small side even at 160, but there's bugger all left for him at that weight really, and Canelo is going to be steering clear I think...I think if hes going to be a real superstar he's going to have to take the gamble and move up from his natural division, just like Floyd did.

Re: GGG spoiler

Posted: 17 May 2015, 18:26
by edgey2009
Please put Golokvin in with Froch! Fight makes sense for both fighters

Re: GGG spoiler

Posted: 17 May 2015, 18:30
by Horse
Ghost Train wrote:Cheers Stu :TU: I think that should be the standard response whenever HORSE has one of his tantrums.
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