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Wilder is still relatively untested and Povetkin is in devastating form. Still Wilder has so many advantages you have to favor him in this fight. Unless some unknown flaw surfaces I expect Wilde to win a decision.

marvelous marv wrote:Povetkin isn't exactly known for defense. So your telling me a smallish type heavy is gonna beat a guy taller than Klitschko who cracks hard? I will be surprised if he gets past the 6th round. This is an easy fight to predict in my book. I get that people don't like Wilder's affiliation with Haymon but objectively you have to give him some credit.

For what? He has one good win, against the fat and lazy Stiverne. What objectively can you give him credit for aside from good power against terrible opposition? Stiverne has a good beard, but one could easily say the ONLY decent fighter Wilder fought went the distance with him. He used his height well against Stiverne, a guy with very little work-rate. If he uses it well against Povetkin and wins, then he's number two in the world. It's a simple as that.

People put way too much stock into Povetkin/Huck. If Wilder is a hype job, Povetkin will derail him hard (or the fight will never happen...a very likely possibility). If Wilder is the real deal, he will win.

crusader wrote:What a rigorous analysis.

Wilder is taller than Povetkin and can punch, so people must be picking Povetkin because they have a problem with Al Haymon.

Exactly what I read in that post. You just saved me picking his post to pieces

Your basic arguement is that Stiverne isn't as strong an opponent as Charr Takam Huck Perez? Which s debatable in my opinion.

My main point is what is the game plan for Povetkin in this matchup? Stay on the outside and live at the end of Wilders jab or try to eat fire and work inside much like he tried to do in Klitschko fight. I just don't see this tactic working against this opponent.

Wlad tends to grab in close quarters. Wilder tends to engage. I've seen Wilder generate an incredible amount of power in close range. I'm not quite sure he even knows how to clinch properly. I've seen both guys fight many times, this strikes me as a bad matchup stylisticly.

Wilders camp wants this fight as it will clear the way to unification. Povetkins camp is asking for an interim fight.

Sasha has proved his metal to me after the Vlad hug/loss,he has fought contenders and dismantled them in his path.

Wilder has fought 1 top 20 heavy and won.
Fed on a bunch of cans and fighting another can for his first defence.

Only a casual fan or an American would give Wilder a chance.

Povetkin is a beast and is second only to vlad,fact.

I personally hope for a Povetkin Wlad rematch.Yes I know Wlad beat him convincingly.
But I think with a fair ref who will not allow 7 clinches per round Povetkin would do much better.

I about laughed my arse off recently, reading an article about Wilder accusing (in his opinion) that Povetkin was using steriods. Although he said he can't wait to get his hands on him, he said there will be very strict drug testing. Blood, urine, and maybe even a sperm sample! lmao!

Badhusker wrote:I about laughed my arse off recently, reading an article about Wilder accusing (in his opinion) that Povetkin was using steriods. Although he said he can't wait to get his hands on him, he said there will be very strict drug testing. Blood, urine, and maybe even a sperm sample! lmao!

Povetkin will give Wilder a sperm sample in the ring while f4cking him up

Badhusker wrote:I about laughed my arse off recently, reading an article about Wilder accusing (in his opinion) that Povetkin was using steriods. Although he said he can't wait to get his hands on him, he said there will be very strict drug testing. Blood, urine, and maybe even a sperm sample! lmao!

Why does Wilder want Povetkin's sperm?

Freedom2013 wrote:

Badhusker wrote:I about laughed my arse off recently, reading an article about Wilder accusing (in his opinion) that Povetkin was using steriods. Although he said he can't wait to get his hands on him, he said there will be very strict drug testing. Blood, urine, and maybe even a sperm sample! lmao!

Why does Wilder want Povetkin's sperm?

It's the only way he could beat a Povetkin....

Women weaken legs they say...

Badhusker wrote:Women weaken legs they say...

Sounds like Deontay may have other plans if he can't wait to get his hands on Povetkin and get a sperm sample

Stiverne simply got old overnight. Povetkin is in his prime, mentally and physically. He is the better boxer and he has KO'd legit heavyweights. Wilder fought only one and he went the distance. I got to go with the Rooshin.

Cap wrote:Stiverne simply got old overnight. Povetkin is in his prime, mentally and physically. He is the better boxer and he has KO'd legit heavyweights. Wilder fought only one and he went the distance. I got to go with the Rooshin.

This is a first for me.I have never seen a guy who is nearly 36 years old with 132 amateur fights and 30 professional fights called PRIME.
Povetkin like any other 36 year old who has had this much competition in his life is on his last few years
in the sport.And I am a huge Povetkin fan.But his career will be over before we know it.
Wilder vs Povetkin is a great match up.And a fantastic win for who ever wins.
And as I said in previous posts I do pick Povetkin to win.But to say he is in his prime is assinine

The Euro-bias is in full effect. Wilder KO's Povetkin or cruises to an easy decision.

Or we can do thing where we say Wilder will lose every fight, and when he finally does, we all say he was a bum.

BAD INTENTIONS wrote:The Euro-bias is in full effect. Wilder KO's Povetkin or cruises to an easy decision.

Or we can do thing where we say Wilder will lose every fight, and when he finally does, we all say he was a bum.

Yeah, we just have such a favourable bias towards Russians here, and always give them the benefit of the doubt over Americans.

Come on you Westerners, give the Americans a fair shake already and stop favouring the Russians like you always do.

Not sure what Euro-bias there is in this case. Povetkin is good and he's fought better opposition. Wilder fought Stiverne, who himself only beat Arreola.

Wilder could be good, but we need to see more of him with top 20 opponents.

wilder throws a wind mill. povetkin hooks him good night

Lenny Cravats wrote:Not sure what Euro-bias there is in this case. Povetkin is good and he's fought better opposition. Wilder fought Stiverne, who himself only beat Arreola.

Wilder could be good, but we need to see more of him with top 20 opponents.

Bad Intentions just likes to look for things to complain about. If everyone would have picked Wilder he'd complain about anti-Euro bias. He lives in the butt hurt lane.

BI is a joker and seems to like playing the victim. He moans like that constantly but usually gives no reasons to support his positions.

Also, it amazes me how much credit some people have given Wilder for beating Stiverne. I post about this regularly but Stiverne had already lost to and drawn with journeymen, he was handily outboxed by 40 year old Ray Austin for most of their fight, and the best opponent he beat in Arreola has never defeated a top 10 opponent, unless you consider Mitchell top 10 even though he had been splattered a few fights earlier by Banks. Aside from these opponents Stiverne has largely fought dross, though as I mentioned he still couldn't beat two of the journeymen he faced.

Now Stiverne was still a solid fighter and Deontay did well to beat him that comprehensively, but the latter has a lot more to prove before predicting that he'd lose to Povetkin is reflective of bias, whether against Al Haymon (lol) or in favor of Europeans.

For whatever reason, WIlder does not get the respect his power deserves here. He deserves to be mentioned along with GGG and Kovalev.

I don't know if anyone here saw Povetkin/Wlad ... Wilder is going to land a few hard straight punches and Povetkin will get hurt. Wilder will probably stop him as Wlad should have.

Wilder is taller, stronger and more athletic. Povetkin's skill edge is narrowing also.

Before it's said, I am not a fan of WIlder. I've rooted against him in all of his fights. But I can't deny that he is better than I thought.

His power is very good, but if his chin or heart aren't, he isn't gonna be an elite HW. We still need to have those qualities checked against top opponents like Povetkin, Fury or Wlad.

ikorolev wrote:His power is very good, but if his chin or heart aren't, he isn't gonna be an elite HW. We still need to have those qualities checked against top opponents like Povetkin, Fury or Wlad.

Stiverne can crack.And he nailed Wilder with a few solid shots right to the jaw.
I am not as worried about his chin as much as some are.

tiny_acres wrote:

ikorolev wrote:His power is very good, but if his chin or heart aren't, he isn't gonna be an elite HW. We still need to have those qualities checked against top opponents like Povetkin, Fury or Wlad.

Stiverne can crack.And he nailed Wilder with a few solid shots right to the jaw.
I am not as worried about his chin as much as some are.

Stiverne can crack, but his power is very overrated. He is also lazy and was never close to putting enough pressure on Wilder. There are Heavyweights who will. If Wilder beats them, he's the man.

To say Wilder's chin and heart are not good, is an opinion, but based on no facts at all. Maybe if he gets floored and KO'd a few times, his chin will be down to Wlad's level. I think the jury is still out, and won't ever say a fighter has no heart or chin until they prove it true.

As for Povetkin vs Wilder, right now I would pick Wilder by a close UD, but possible KO win. Wilder will have to look and perform better than he did vs Molina though. If he fights like he did against Stiverne, I think he wins. His jab will be the key, and will T-off on Povetkin. He needs to stay off the ropes though.