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Re: You were doing so well there

Posted: 28 May 2015, 06:04
by black panther
Khan says some daft things (okay a lot of daft things) but in terms of boxing; he's fought a helluva lot of good fighters, in their back yard and is never in a dull fight so deserves respect for his exploits inside the ring at least. In any case, here's a funny interview where he tells a reporter the infamous Roger Mayweather boxing epithet "You don't know sh!t about boxing" :lol:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=12Vhd7T1mRY

Re: You were doing so well there

Posted: 28 May 2015, 06:09
by Shirow
freddydoesdallas wrote:
Boxerbeetle wrote:Anyone who doesn't believe Khan gets significant racist abuse just needs to look up one of his fights on YouTube and have a read through the comments.
That is not boxing fans though. Unfortunately, there are a loud minority of people in this country who think they can say whatever they like in order to get a reaction from famous folk.

Anyone is fair game to them but to compare boxing fans to those is harsh
That's indicative of YouTube not boxing fans or British people in general. I'd be surprised if you could find a YouTube video with more than 50 comments that hasn't descended into racist abuse.

Re: You were doing so well there

Posted: 28 May 2015, 06:15
by ste1983
freddydoesdallas wrote:
Boxerbeetle wrote:Anyone who doesn't believe Khan gets significant racist abuse just needs to look up one of his fights on YouTube and have a read through the comments.
That is not boxing fans though.
No but its the sort of people he'd need to get on side to have a following like Hatton

Re: You were doing so well there

Posted: 28 May 2015, 06:44
by Boxerbeetle
ste1983 wrote:
freddydoesdallas wrote:
Boxerbeetle wrote:Anyone who doesn't believe Khan gets significant racist abuse just needs to look up one of his fights on YouTube and have a read through the comments.
That is not boxing fans though.
No but its the sort of people he'd need to get on side to have a following like Hatton
Yeah that was my point :TU:

Re: You were doing so well there

Posted: 28 May 2015, 07:10
by caldo2025
Good for Amir. I like this new approach and after his win against Algieri, he needs to call out Floyd in his postfight interview on live tv. He needs to use the public, just like Manny did, to get Floyd to the position to where he HAS to take the fight. Khan doesn't carry the same clout as Manny but he's got to find a way to stir up some controversy in the way Floyd has avoided him. There's proof backing his case. What about the survey Floyd did allowing the "fans" to select his next opponent. The world responded by telling him that they select Khan as the opponent and Floyd totally goes back on his word and doesn't fight him.

If Khan gets the knockout tomorrow night then he has to get loud in that ring after and really get under Floyd's skin.

I think a Floyd/Khan fight is the best one out there for us all. I do think that Floyd wins that fight but I think that Khan's speed will be an interesting factor in the fight and i would love to see how it would shake out. But everyone is fast until they get in with Floyd and have to try to score on that defense.

I really hope Floyd picks Khan but i can't see him passing up Cotto and that Middleweight belt he's got providing he defends it successfully next month.

Re: You were doing so well there

Posted: 28 May 2015, 10:12
by J
Horse wrote:I hope he misses out on the Mayweather and Pacquiao fights.

He doesn't deserve them with this sort of cowardly matchmaking.
eff me! collazo, peterson, garcia....hardly cowardly

Re: You were doing so well there

Posted: 28 May 2015, 10:14
by Boxerbeetle
J wrote:
Horse wrote:I hope he misses out on the Mayweather and Pacquiao fights.

He doesn't deserve them with this sort of cowardly matchmaking.
eff me! collazo, peterson, garcia....hardly cowardly
Don't forget Maidana !

Re: You were doing so well there

Posted: 28 May 2015, 10:16
by J
exactly ..he is due an easier one

Re: You were doing so well there

Posted: 28 May 2015, 10:18
by freddydoesdallas
J wrote:
Horse wrote:I hope he misses out on the Mayweather and Pacquiao fights.

He doesn't deserve them with this sort of cowardly matchmaking.
eff me! collazo, peterson, garcia....hardly cowardly
Of the 3 you name, he's lost to 2 so hardly a justification to support him fighting mayweather

Re: You were doing so well there

Posted: 28 May 2015, 10:44
by Horse
J wrote:exactly ..he is due an easier one
He's trying to get a fight with the P4P No. 1. He should be fighting Bradley, Marquez, Brook, Thurman or at least Porter or Maidana II.

He is instead fighting the likes of Collazo, Alexander & now Algieri. How does that justify a shot at Mayweather when there are so many more worthy alternatives?

It's cowardly matchmaking and hopefully it doesn't work.

Re: You were doing so well there

Posted: 28 May 2015, 10:50
by black panther
freddydoesdallas wrote:
J wrote:
Horse wrote:I hope he misses out on the Mayweather and Pacquiao fights.

He doesn't deserve them with this sort of cowardly matchmaking.
eff me! collazo, peterson, garcia....hardly cowardly
Of the 3 you name, he's lost to 2 so hardly a justification to support him fighting mayweather

Who else should fight Mayweather? Garcia? With wins over Devon Alexander, Collazo, Judah and Maidana, Khan arguably has a better resume than anyone in and around welterweight bar Garcia, Tim Bradley and Pacquiao. And he's a much bigger name than Bradley and Garcia (despite being stretched by him) IMHO.

Re: You were doing so well there

Posted: 28 May 2015, 10:55
by freddydoesdallas
Where have i said he shouldn't? I just highlighted that in defending khan for being brave, he named 3 examples of tough fights and 2 that he lost.

Re: You were doing so well there

Posted: 28 May 2015, 11:00
by black panther
freddydoesdallas wrote:Where have i said he shouldn't? I just highlighted that in defending khan for being brave, he named 3 examples of tough fights and 2 that he lost.

I'm confused. You said "hardly justification for fighting Mayweather" ergo Khan fighting Mayweather is not justified by his resume.

Also getting up several times after being hit by a howitzer of a left hook or losing a close decision in the other's guys backyard is also hardly an example of a lack of bravery.

Much of muchness I guess.

Re: You were doing so well there

Posted: 28 May 2015, 11:28
by freddydoesdallas
black panther wrote:
freddydoesdallas wrote:Where have i said he shouldn't? I just highlighted that in defending khan for being brave, he named 3 examples of tough fights and 2 that he lost.

I'm confused. You said "hardly justification for fighting Mayweather" ergo Khan fighting Mayweather is not justified by his resume.

Also getting up several times after being hit by a howitzer of a left hook or losing a close decision in the other's guys backyard is also hardly an example of a lack of bravery.

Much of muchness I guess.
You're cherry picking part of the quote. Someone highlighted 3 fighters as examples of tough matchmaking. I responded to those 3 by saying that they are not the best justification for a mayweather fight as he lost to 2 of them.

That's not looking at his whole career and making a case either way. It's pointing out that those 3 don't help.

it doesn't really matter about bravery or getting back up. He got beat. Dimitry Salita was dropped 3 times in the first and stopped by khan. Did we all say well done, go onto bigger and better things brave fella? No.

If (when) khan beats algieri, he should fight someone else rather than waiting in the wings again to try and force the fight with mayweather. Mayweather has options, khan is one of them and therefore he needs to eliminate his competition

Re: You were doing so well there

Posted: 28 May 2015, 11:34
by black panther
freddydoesdallas wrote:
black panther wrote:
freddydoesdallas wrote:Where have i said he shouldn't? I just highlighted that in defending khan for being brave, he named 3 examples of tough fights and 2 that he lost.

I'm confused. You said "hardly justification for fighting Mayweather" ergo Khan fighting Mayweather is not justified by his resume.

Also getting up several times after being hit by a howitzer of a left hook or losing a close decision in the other's guys backyard is also hardly an example of a lack of bravery.

Much of muchness I guess.
You're cherry picking part of the quote. Someone highlighted 3 fighters as examples of tough matchmaking. I responded to those 3 by saying that they are not the best justification for a mayweather fight as he lost to 2 of them.

That's not looking at his whole career and making a case either way. It's pointing out that those 3 don't help.

it doesn't really matter about bravery or getting back up. He got beat. Dimitry Salita was dropped 3 times in the first and stopped by khan. Did we all say well done, go onto bigger and better things brave fella? No.

If (when) khan beats algieri, he should fight someone else rather than waiting in the wings again to try and force the fight with mayweather. Mayweather has options, khan is one of them and therefore he needs to eliminate his competition

Agreed :TU:

Re: You were doing so well there

Posted: 28 May 2015, 12:08
by freddydoesdallas
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