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bnovelist wrote:The UFC is off the chain lol!!!! The past weekend's card was INSANE....INSANE!!!!!! My adrenaline was pumping the entire card! Boxing hasn't done

for me in quite awhile. Arvloski vs Brown, then Weidman vs Belfort, then Rumble vs Cormier had me on the edge of my damn seat!!!!!!

Watch this!!!! Watch it!!!!!! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3SWVZ0U9oSw DON'T YALL SIT HERE AND LIE TO ME SAYING THAT BOXING

IS MORE EXCITING....OMG YALL ARE SO LYING LOL..... WATCH THE LINK I POSTED IN FULL!!!!

Ok good your not a boxing fan.

Now get out of here and go watch d level brawlers go at it.

Have fun.

The biggest name in UFC as of right now is Ronda Rousy and that's because she beats everyone up in 2 seconds. Boxing is one of those sports that only needs one special knockout artist to get the buzz back.

punchoutsb wrote:

ClivePatrickLyons wrote:Imagine a UFC fighter that's lika Hopkins you know fight's until his 50 years old
wins Championship's in to his 40's this is something that i'll never see

Randy Couture.

Randy Couture Hardly compares to B-Hop, turned pro late at 23yr's old because he was killing some time so to speak as been a fighter
for 26yr's engaged in 64 bout's half of those WORLD TITTLE FIGHT'S so that's 32 WTF'S to be exact MIDDLEWEIGHT CHAMP FOR OVER 10YR'S
Ever hear about bloke named Willy Pep fighter for 26yr's engaged in 241 pro fight's,Archie Moore another example of a CHAMPION BOXER
Engaged in 219 pro fight's fought on for 28yr's NO MAN EVER USED THEIR FIST TO KO MORE MEN THAN HE DID 131 VICTIM'S
And their's another 50 or more boxer's I could bring up, But anyway what i'm talking about IS LONGEVITY it sorts out the CHAMPION'S from the LEGEND'S......I found his UFC record 19-11,So Randy Couture was a great UFC fighter i'm not doubting that but comparing him to B-Hop well thats silly.......... :?? why because a boxer's career has more LONGEVITY.

ClivePatrickLyons wrote:

punchoutsb wrote:

ClivePatrickLyons wrote:Imagine a UFC fighter that's lika Hopkins you know fight's until his 50 years old
wins Championship's in to his 40's this is something that i'll never see

Randy Couture.

Randy Couture Hardly compares to B-Hop, turned pro late at 23yr's old because he was killing some time so to speak as been a fighter
for 26yr's engaged in 64 bout's half of those WORLD TITTLE FIGHT'S so that's 32 WTF'S to be exact MIDDLEWEIGHT CHAMP FOR OVER 10YR'S
Ever hear about bloke named Willy Pep fighter for 26yr's engaged in 241 pro fight's,Archie Moore another example of a CHAMPION BOXER
Engaged in 219 pro fight's fought on for 28yr's NO MAN EVER USED THEIR FIST TO KO MORE MEN THAN HE DID 131 VICTIM'S
And their's another 50 or more boxer's I could bring up, But anyway what i'm talking about IS LONGEVITY it sorts out the CHAMPION'S from the LEGEND'S......I found his UFC record 19-11,So Randy Couture was a great UFC fighter i'm not doubting that but comparing him to B-Hop well thats silly.......... :?? why because a boxer's career has more LONGEVITY.

Yes, I know who Archie Moore is

Read what you originally said, and then read my reply. I'm just telling you that in response to your original comment, it's already been done.

ClivePatrickLyons wrote:UFC will be the poor cousin to boxing forever.......unless they can steal most of boxing's future star's while their young enough to teach them
about Grappling/Mounting/Choking..etc.etc..etc...........Imagine a UFC fighter that's lika Hopkins you know fight's until his 50 years old
wins Championship's in to his 40's this is something that i'll never see because the punishment that some of these poor UFC bloke's
take they'll be lucky to have enough brain cell's left to spend the money they made in their short UFC career
Money Wise it gotta make one wonder why fighter's choose UFC over BOXING maybe its their only option.
in BOXING we have THE DON.... KING/MR BOB ARUM/THE SAVIOUR HAYMON
WHO'S UFC'S................... KING/ARUM/HAYMON D LAUGHING ALL THE WAY TO THE BANK.

THIS IS WHAT I ORIGINALY SAID AND IF COUTURE IS THE BEST YOU GOT THAN THE GREAT SPORT OF BOXING CAN SLEEP EASILY AT NIGHT

ClivePatrickLyons wrote:

ClivePatrickLyons wrote:UFC will be the poor cousin to boxing forever.......unless they can steal most of boxing's future star's while their young enough to teach them
about Grappling/Mounting/Choking..etc.etc..etc...........Imagine a UFC fighter that's lika Hopkins you know fight's until his 50 years old
wins Championship's in to his 40's this is something that i'll never see because the punishment that some of these poor UFC bloke's
take they'll be lucky to have enough brain cell's left to spend the money they made in their short UFC career
Money Wise it gotta make one wonder why fighter's choose UFC over BOXING maybe its their only option.
in BOXING we have THE DON.... KING/MR BOB ARUM/THE SAVIOUR HAYMON
WHO'S UFC'S................... KING/ARUM/HAYMON D LAUGHING ALL THE WAY TO THE BANK.

THIS IS WHAT I ORIGINALY SAID AND IF COUTURE IS THE BEST YOU GOT THAN THE GREAT SPORT OF BOXING CAN SLEEP EASILY AT NIGHT

Yep, you said you'd never see a UFC champion in their 40's. So the answer is still Randy Couture

Punchoutsb UFC WILL ALWAYS BE BOXING'S POOR LITTLE COUSIN YOU CAN TALK SHI. ALL YOU WANT
IF EVERY BOXER TODAY QUIT BOXING AND WENT INTO YOU FAVOURITE COMBAT SPORT UFC THEN BOXER'S WOULD TAKE OVER THAT SPORT
ONCE THEY LEARN THE GRAPPLE/TACKLE/CHOKE...ETC.ETC.ETC BUT IF YOU PUT THE SHOO ON THE OTHER FOOT AND GET YOUR BOYS TO COME AND TRY AND TAKE OVER BOXING THEY WILL GET KILLED

ClivePatrickLyons wrote:Punchoutsb UFC WILL ALWAYS BE BOXING'S POOR LITTLE COUSIN YOU CAN TALK SHI. ALL YOU WANT
IF EVERY BOXER TODAY QUIT BOXING AND WENT INTO YOU FAVOURITE COMBAT SPORT UFC THEN BOXER'S WOULD TAKE OVER THAT SPORT
ONCE THEY LEARN THE GRAPPLE/TACKLE/CHOKE...ETC.ETC.ETC BUT IF YOU PUT THE SHOO ON THE OTHER FOOT AND GET YOUR BOYS TO COME AND TRY AND TAKE OVER BOXING THEY WILL GET KILLED

First of all, I haven't talking any "shi". Boxing is my second favorite sport (behind strongman), MMA is in my top ten.

Second of all, Randy Couture is still the answer

Third of all, you clearly know nothing about MMA so unless you want to continue making yourself look like a fool, you should leave the commenting to those in the know, as it were.

Striking is the only part of MMA i actually enjoy so it makes sense why I enjoy boxing more....considering its, you know, all striking lol.

punchoutsb wrote:

ClivePatrickLyons wrote:Punchoutsb UFC WILL ALWAYS BE BOXING'S POOR LITTLE COUSIN YOU CAN TALK SHI. ALL YOU WANT
IF EVERY BOXER TODAY QUIT BOXING AND WENT INTO YOU FAVOURITE COMBAT SPORT UFC THEN BOXER'S WOULD TAKE OVER THAT SPORT
ONCE THEY LEARN THE GRAPPLE/TACKLE/CHOKE...ETC.ETC.ETC BUT IF YOU PUT THE SHOO ON THE OTHER FOOT AND GET YOUR BOYS TO COME AND TRY AND TAKE OVER BOXING THEY WILL GET KILLED

First of all, I haven't talking any "shi". Boxing is my second favorite sport (behind strongman), MMA is in my top ten.

Second of all, Randy Couture is still the answer

Third of all, you clearly know nothing about MMA so unless you want to continue making yourself look like a fool, you should leave the commenting to those in the know, as it were.

POOR LITTLE COUSIN........ ........THATS A FACT............WHY DOES THAT BOTHER YOU SO MUCH ...STRONGMAN

I don't think the notion of MMA taking over boxing has anything to do with how many people watch both sports. Because the reality is, each sport will draw a healthy amount of fans of combat sports along with a nice percentage of fans who enjoy the one over the other. They have both coexisted for awhile now and neither seems to be going away, on the contrary, they probably help each other.

The way in which one might usurp the other lies in which sport continues to draw more participants. It seems like a lot of MMA gyms are open all over the place, though that could quickly dissipate if MMA loses its appeal. Conversely, amateur boxing in the US at least seems to be in trouble constantly in recent years. Moreover, it doesn't seem like there are as many thriving boxing gyms around as in generations past. The dwindling of either sport will come from a drop off in participation. People will always watch both, in my opinion.

ClivePatrickLyons wrote:Punchoutsb UFC WILL ALWAYS BE BOXING'S POOR LITTLE COUSIN YOU CAN TALK SHI. ALL YOU WANT
IF EVERY BOXER TODAY QUIT BOXING AND WENT INTO YOU FAVOURITE COMBAT SPORT UFC THEN BOXER'S WOULD TAKE OVER THAT SPORT
ONCE THEY LEARN THE GRAPPLE/TACKLE/CHOKE...ETC.ETC.ETC BUT IF YOU PUT THE SHOO ON THE OTHER FOOT AND GET YOUR BOYS TO COME AND TRY AND TAKE OVER BOXING THEY WILL GET KILLED

So you're saying that it would be really easy for boxers who have spent their entire lives just boxing to be able to learn to attack & defend elbows, kicks, knees, takedown & throws & then on the ground various positions & then of course the many technical submissions BUT it would be completely impossible for MMA fighters who already train striking to focus on just their boxing skills to the point they could hang with a boxer?

You sir are an idiot.

moogie101 wrote:

ClivePatrickLyons wrote:Punchoutsb UFC WILL ALWAYS BE BOXING'S POOR LITTLE COUSIN YOU CAN TALK SHI. ALL YOU WANT
IF EVERY BOXER TODAY QUIT BOXING AND WENT INTO YOU FAVOURITE COMBAT SPORT UFC THEN BOXER'S WOULD TAKE OVER THAT SPORT
ONCE THEY LEARN THE GRAPPLE/TACKLE/CHOKE...ETC.ETC.ETC BUT IF YOU PUT THE SHOO ON THE OTHER FOOT AND GET YOUR BOYS TO COME AND TRY AND TAKE OVER BOXING THEY WILL GET KILLED

So you're saying that it would be really easy for boxers who have spent their entire lives just boxing to be able to learn to attack & defend elbows, kicks, knees, takedown & throws & then on the ground various positions & then of course the many technical submissions BUT it would be completely impossible for MMA fighters who already train striking to focus on just their boxing skills to the point they could hang with a boxer?

You sir are an idiot.

Top boxers would get destroyed by top MMA's fighters in the octagon in just the same way that top MMA fighters would get embarrassed by top boxer's in the ring.

bnovelist wrote:That fight was such a disgrace that it will overshadow everything else for several years to come! That was a huge black eye for the sport of boxing

and both Manny and Floyd should me forced to retire. Mayweather's potshotting show getting paid 200million lol You see in the UFC Floyd's

potshotting wouldnt work because someone would pick him up, slam him, then punch him in the face as he lays on his freakin back!!!!!

What you and quite a few other posters have said is only partially right: boxing in America has suffered and will suffer from the consequence of that "event". Elsewhere, life goes on. America is still a very important part of the boxing world, but it's nowhere near as crucial to the sport's overall health as it was 30 or 40 years ago.

Carl Froch's last fight had 80,000 spectators. Ricky Hatton and a few others since can sell out any venue in the UK. Wladimir Klitschko, Abraham and a few Germans can sell out any venue in Germany, Austria and neighbouring countries. Boxing has taken off in China and already the TV audiences for the best known boxer make Mayweather seem anonymous. Thanks mainly to Pacquiao, boxing has never been bigger in the Philippines. Meanwhile, UFC remains a fringe sport in these markets.

ClivePatrickLyons wrote:

punchoutsb wrote:

ClivePatrickLyons wrote:Punchoutsb UFC WILL ALWAYS BE BOXING'S POOR LITTLE COUSIN YOU CAN TALK SHI. ALL YOU WANT
IF EVERY BOXER TODAY QUIT BOXING AND WENT INTO YOU FAVOURITE COMBAT SPORT UFC THEN BOXER'S WOULD TAKE OVER THAT SPORT
ONCE THEY LEARN THE GRAPPLE/TACKLE/CHOKE...ETC.ETC.ETC BUT IF YOU PUT THE SHOO ON THE OTHER FOOT AND GET YOUR BOYS TO COME AND TRY AND TAKE OVER BOXING THEY WILL GET KILLED

First of all, I haven't talking any "shi". Boxing is my second favorite sport (behind strongman), MMA is in my top ten.

Second of all, Randy Couture is still the answer

Third of all, you clearly know nothing about MMA so unless you want to continue making yourself look like a fool, you should leave the commenting to those in the know, as it were.

POOR LITTLE COUSIN........ ........THATS A FACT............WHY DOES THAT BOTHER YOU SO MUCH ...STRONGMAN

It doesn't at all mate

Why does the fact I proved your example false bother you so much? And yes, strongman is a great sport. I'd tell you to try it, but we both know why that wouldn't work

All boxing has over the UFC is AGE that's it!!!! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wUIJMdYZmyI Watch this one!! The excitement about the UFC

is you learn what to do in a REAL LIFE situation how to subdue a man! If the guy is stronger than you and punches harder you can take his back

and wear him out choking him from behind all sorts of ways to win a REAL FIGHT.

Go try shoulder rolling your way when someone tries to car jack you! Try it and see how that goes!!!!!

punchoutsb wrote:

ClivePatrickLyons wrote:Imagine a UFC fighter that's lika Hopkins you know fight's until his 50 years old
wins Championship's in to his 40's this is something that i'll never see

Randy Couture.

He never was never will be like hopkins go watch what is it again strongman

ClivePatrickLyons wrote:

punchoutsb wrote:

ClivePatrickLyons wrote:Imagine a UFC fighter that's lika Hopkins you know fight's until his 50 years old
wins Championship's in to his 40's this is something that i'll never see

Randy Couture.

He never was never will be like hopkins go watch what is it again strongman

Won championships in his 40's, like you said would never happen in MMA. It's alright to be wrong, one would think you'd be used to it by now.

These mma vs boxing discussions are ridiculous. Each have their place in the world. And as stated earlier, they help each other out. It's the close minded fans that state one is better than the other in a matter of fact way.

moogie101 wrote:

ClivePatrickLyons wrote:Punchoutsb UFC WILL ALWAYS BE BOXING'S POOR LITTLE COUSIN YOU CAN TALK SHI. ALL YOU WANT
IF EVERY BOXER TODAY QUIT BOXING AND WENT INTO YOU FAVOURITE COMBAT SPORT UFC THEN BOXER'S WOULD TAKE OVER THAT SPORT
ONCE THEY LEARN THE GRAPPLE/TACKLE/CHOKE...ETC.ETC.ETC BUT IF YOU PUT THE SHOO ON THE OTHER FOOT AND GET YOUR BOYS TO COME AND TRY AND TAKE OVER BOXING THEY WILL GET KILLED

So you're saying that it would be really easy for boxers who have spent their entire lives just boxing to be able to learn to attack & defend elbows, kicks, knees, takedown & throws & then on the ground various positions & then of course the many technical submissions BUT it would be completely impossible for MMA fighters who already train striking to focus on just their boxing skills to the point they could hang with a boxer?

You sir are an idiot.

Listen here you fu..ing imposter this aint your argument IDIOT,GO READ WHAT I SAID AND IF YOU AND THAT OTHER GOOSE CAN'T FIGURE OUT
WHAT YOUR READING THATS YOUR PROBLEM..............BOXER'S ARE BETTER FIGHTER'S WITH THEIR FIST DUMBO'S THATS THE BOTTOM LINE

ClivePatrickLyons wrote:

moogie101 wrote:

ClivePatrickLyons wrote:Punchoutsb UFC WILL ALWAYS BE BOXING'S POOR LITTLE COUSIN YOU CAN TALK SHI. ALL YOU WANT
IF EVERY BOXER TODAY QUIT BOXING AND WENT INTO YOU FAVOURITE COMBAT SPORT UFC THEN BOXER'S WOULD TAKE OVER THAT SPORT
ONCE THEY LEARN THE GRAPPLE/TACKLE/CHOKE...ETC.ETC.ETC BUT IF YOU PUT THE SHOO ON THE OTHER FOOT AND GET YOUR BOYS TO COME AND TRY AND TAKE OVER BOXING THEY WILL GET KILLED

So you're saying that it would be really easy for boxers who have spent their entire lives just boxing to be able to learn to attack & defend elbows, kicks, knees, takedown & throws & then on the ground various positions & then of course the many technical submissions BUT it would be completely impossible for MMA fighters who already train striking to focus on just their boxing skills to the point they could hang with a boxer?

You sir are an idiot.

Listen here you fu..ing imposter this aint your argument IDIOT,GO READ WHAT I SAID AND IF YOU AND THAT OTHER GOOSE CAN'T FIGURE OUT
WHAT YOUR READING THATS YOUR PROBLEM..............BOXER'S ARE BETTER FIGHTER'S WITH THEIR FIST DUMBO'S THATS THE BOTTOM LINE

The bottom line is actually that Randy Couture won championships in his 40's

IT'S TIME TOO STOP THE BS,WHAT I WAS ORIGINALLY TRYING TO SAY WAS THAT UFC/MMA WILL NEVER COMPETE WITH BOXER'S LONGEVITY
UFC/MMA FIGHTER'S TAKE MORE PUNISHENT OVERALL THAN A BOXER DOES AND UFC/MMA FIGHTER'S DON'T MAKE ANYWHERE NEAR AS MUCH MONEY
AS A BOXER DOES IF YOU HAD A SON/DAUGHTER WANTING TO DO A COMBAT SPORT WHAT ONE WOULD YOU AGREE TOO, YOU ALREADY KNOW WHAT I'D CHOOSE AND LIKE I SAID IF YOUR MAN RANDY IS ALL YOU GOT THAN I REST MY CASE 19 WIN'S 11 LOSSE'S HOPE HE MADE SOME MONEY

AND YOU KNOW WHAT IN THE HISTORY OF BOXING THEIR ARE DOZEN'S AND DOZEN'S OF B-HOP'S
NOW I WILL WAIT FOR YOU TO TELL ME ABOUT THE OTHER 40YR LIKE RANDY THAT YOU KNOW OF IN UFC/MMA/ STRONGMAN.

THIS IS A SITE DID YOU REALISE THAT YET CHAMP CONSIDERING YOU HAVE PROBLEM'S COMPARING ANYTHING

ClivePatrickLyons wrote:IT'S TIME TOO STOP THE BS,WHAT I WAS ORIGINALLY TRYING TO SAY WAS THAT UFC/MMA WILL NEVER COMPETE WITH BOXER'S LONGEVITY
UFC/MMA FIGHTER'S TAKE MORE PUNISHENT OVERALL THAN A BOXER DOES AND UFC/MMA FIGHTER'S DON'T MAKE ANYWHERE NEAR AS MUCH MONEY
AS A BOXER DOES IF YOU HAD A SON/DAUGHTER WANTING TO DO A COMBAT SPORT WHAT ONE WOULD YOU AGREE TOO, YOU ALREADY KNOW WHAT I'D CHOOSE AND LIKE I SAID IF YOUR MAN RANDY IS ALL YOU GOT THAN I REST MY CASE 19 WIN'S 11 LOSSE'S HOPE HE MADE SOME MONEY

AND YOU KNOW WHAT IN THE HISTORY OF BOXING THEIR ARE DOZEN'S AND DOZEN'S OF B-HOP'S
NOW I WILL WAIT FOR YOU TO TELL ME ABOUT THE OTHER 40YR LIKE RANDY THAT YOU KNOW OF IN UFC/MMA/ STRONGMAN.

THIS IS A SITE DID YOU REALISE THAT YET CHAMP CONSIDERING YOU HAVE PROBLEM'S COMPARING ANYTHING

Another good example would be Dan Henderson.

And yes, I am aware that this is a boxing site. Believe it or not, that's actually why I registered here; because I love boxing. Isn't that strange?

Now do you realize that there are these things called grammar, spelling, and actually making good/useful posts? If you familiarize yourself with those perhaps you wouldn't look like such a dunce on this boxing site

I'm a fan of both but boxing will always be top for me. Like boxing UFC has its fair share of snorefests. Boxing has a real deep history and bigger pool of fighters. The only thing I like with UFC is they don't seem afraid to match the top guys together where boxers can avoid people for years. Oh and the UFC ring card girls aren't bad either.

A JUMBO JET IS SIMILAR TO A FIGHTER JET................THEY BOTH CAN FLY.....THATS WHERE THE SIMALARITIE'S END GET MY DRIFT punchoutsb
Sorry about the Grammer/spelling didn't know this was a spelling forum isn't it a BOXING forum.

FOOT-NOTE.............
if some-one put a vacuum cleaner down your throat or somewhere where the sun don't shine and proceeded to suck the bullshit out of you
YOU WOULD FIT INTO A MATCH BOX