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Riddick Blowe wrote:

crusader wrote:Selby clearly won and was looking increasingly good as the bout progressed, but for the most part I didn't think he looked special; rounds two, four, and five were fairly close in my opinion and watching again with the sound on this time I believe that the commentary ignored many of Gradovich's connects.

Selby still put himself among the top few fighters at the weight though, and there's no one in the division who I'd rule him out against. He obviously possesses good boxing skills, both on the back foot and in place, and he's got much better pop than his KO ratio suggests.

I think he would lose comprehensively to Walters, Lomachenko, and Russell, and maybe a few others in the top 10. I agree that he definitely did not look special in this fight.

I would certainly favor them too but it's not a foregone conclusion to me. I haven't been wowed by Walters and Russell and although Loma is exceptional he looks a bit uncomfortable as a pro in my view and is still vulnerable to top fighters at this stage of his career.

ikorolev wrote:English judges are as objective as English commentators or TV directors. Looking at replays shown to people, one could conclude that Gradovich didn't land ANYTHING.

Yes, the tone of the broadcast was clearly biased in Selby's favor in my view. One small exception was that the replays they showed for the second round actually focused on what Gradovich landed, and I thought he won the round, yet the commentary would have one believe that it was all Selby and I think it worked to some extent.

Having watched the fight twice I have no problems with someone giving the 2nd, 4th, and 5th to Gradovich. It was a clear win for Selby but nowhere near a master class in my eyes.

Anyone notice how they took a good look at Gradovich's eye and stopped him yet Kevin Mitchell was allowed to continue with his eye.

Evander wrote:Anyone notice how they took a good look at Gradovich's eye and stopped him yet Kevin Mitchell was allowed to continue with his eye.

Because everything knows that Gradovich comes strong in late rounds.

comes strong in the later rounds , did you actually see any of the fight , or any of Selby's previous fights , because he would of won by stoppage by end of 9th , and if not do you seriously think he would of knocked Selby out , he didn't win a round , and Selby looked to be toying with him , and it was in reality an away fight for Selby too , the man was fighting in working mens clubs etc until 3 years ago for a couple of hundred pound , he was asked to be a late replacement for British champion Stephen Smith and destroyed him , and his only flaw is he takes it too easy with fighters who are not giving him trouble, look at the eliminator against Brunker , went EXACTLY the way of Gradovich fight , and would of ended same way , you make me laugh, US is now just a venue cos your fighters are not up to much , so every time somebody remotely connected to the US loses it was a fix , jesus you would of had quarter of world champs if wasn't for fact of home decisions and the no contest rule your boxers used box , if against a non American .. I must agree that i have seen a lot of dodgy decisions in the UK of recent years , but this not one of them , hardly a Colin Jones getting robbed against ,Mccrory , Gradovic would not because he could not of knocked Selby out , so unless they were gonna have a 16 rounder the fight was over

dazter wrote:comes strong in the later rounds , did you actually see any of the fight , or any of Selby's previous fights , because he would of won by stoppage by end of 9th , and if not do you seriously think he would of knocked Selby out , he didn't win a round , and Selby looked to be toying with him , and it was in reality an away fight for Selby too , the man was fighting in working mens clubs etc until 3 years ago for a couple of hundred pound , he was asked to be a late replacement for British champion Stephen Smith and destroyed him , and his only flaw is he takes it too easy with fighters who are not giving him trouble, look at the eliminator against Brunker , went EXACTLY the way of Gradovich fight , and would of ended same way , you make me laugh, US is now just a venue cos your fighters are not up to much , so every time somebody remotely connected to the US loses it was a fix , jesus you would of had quarter of world champs if wasn't for fact of home decisions and the no contest rule your boxers used box , if against a non American .. I must agree that i have seen a lot of dodgy decisions in the UK of recent years , but this not one of them , hardly a Colin Jones getting robbed against ,Mccrory , Gradovic would not because he could not of knocked Selby out , so unless they were gonna have a 16 rounder the fight was over

What a bunch of bulsh1t !

ikorolev wrote:

Evander wrote:Anyone notice how they took a good look at Gradovich's eye and stopped him yet Kevin Mitchell was allowed to continue with his eye.

Because everything knows that Gradovich comes strong in late rounds.

Gradovich is tough and durable no question, I was surprised he fell behind on the scorecards by so much though.
It's possible he could have staged a rally during the last 3-4 rounds had it happened, he did against Velez around that point.
That said Lee Selby did box well and had to taste Gradovich's pressure which tested him, but Selby looked quite good overall.