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rm1 wrote:Wlad is the best heavy in the world by some margin but I really hope Fury can out muscle him and win as Wlad is terrible for boxing we need an exciting heavyweight division and a Fury win will give us that.

More chance of frankie gavin out muscling Anthony joshua

freddydoesdallas wrote:

rm1 wrote:Wlad is the best heavy in the world by some margin but I really hope Fury can out muscle him and win as Wlad is terrible for boxing we need an exciting heavyweight division and a Fury win will give us that.

More chance of frankie gavin out muscling Anthony joshua

Why Fury is taller heavier and younger ?

rm1 wrote:

freddydoesdallas wrote:

rm1 wrote:Wlad is the best heavy in the world by some margin but I really hope Fury can out muscle him and win as Wlad is terrible for boxing we need an exciting heavyweight division and a Fury win will give us that.

More chance of frankie gavin out muscling Anthony joshua

Why Fury is taller heavier and younger ?

To out muscle you have to be stronger and I'm sure wlad would outlift fury in every way. Fury has started to train harder but does not dedicate himself in the same way wlad does.

fury has been able to get by on his natural size advantage so far and wlad did for a while too. The difference is wlad was woken up to improve on strength and how to get the best out of his size and reach

Boxerbeetle wrote:Buster Douglas shocked the world when he stopped Mike Tyson in Japan...will lightning strike twice????

Buster could throw punches instead of clumsy slaps. Fury has no chance. Can't wait to see him a destroyed, then fed to Joshuaif he doesn't retire.

Grilling Machine wrote:

Boxerbeetle wrote:Buster Douglas shocked the world when he stopped Mike Tyson in Japan...will lightning strike twice????

Perhaps if Fury stands on Mount Fuji wearing a kabuto.

He wouldn't win with a samurai sword. Clumsy as hell and wide open.

freddydoesdallas wrote:I think this ends badly For fury. Don't think he'll know how to react against someone who's the same size. Sjill wise, wlad is miles ahead.

Good luck to him anyway

You'd need to find someone the same size as him to find that out, he's miles bigger than Klitschko, 3 inches in height, 4 inches in reach and half a stone to a stone in weight on him.

expe wrote:

freddydoesdallas wrote:I think this ends badly For fury. Don't think he'll know how to react against someone who's the same size. Sjill wise, wlad is miles ahead.

Good luck to him anyway

You'd need to find someone the same size as him to find that out, he's miles bigger than Klitschko, 3 inches in height, 4 inches in reach and half a stone to a stone in weight on him.

Klitschko outweighs him in functional weight. Fury is a slob. Wlad will mangle him.

Tomasino wrote:

expe wrote:

freddydoesdallas wrote:I think this ends badly For fury. Don't think he'll know how to react against someone who's the same size. Sjill wise, wlad is miles ahead.

Good luck to him anyway

You'd need to find someone the same size as him to find that out, he's miles bigger than Klitschko, 3 inches in height, 4 inches in reach and half a stone to a stone in weight on him.

Klitschko outweighs him in functional weight. Fury is a slob. Wlad will mangle him.

Functional weight All weight is functional, just because Fury doesn't look ripped doesn't mean he isn't in good shape.

expe wrote:

expe wrote:

freddydoesdallas wrote:I think this ends badly For fury. Don't think he'll know how to react against someone who's the same size. Sjill wise, wlad is miles ahead.

Good luck to him anyway

You'd need to find someone the same size as him to find that out, he's miles bigger than Klitschko, 3 inches in height, 4 inches in reach and half a stone to a stone in weight on him.

Klitschko outweighs him in functional weight. Fury is a slob. Wlad will mangle him.

Functional weight All weight is functional, just because Fury doesn't look ripped doesn't mean he isn't in good shape.[/quote]


All weights functional? Like fat and water? Good one kid

Fat is functional, it insulates the body and is a source of energy.

Water is also functional, it prevents dehydration, regulates temperature and does a whole load of other stuff. There's very few bodily functions that don't involve water at some stage.

Fun fight, fun occasion. Mismatched abilities though. KO for Wladimir and Tyson can pay his house off and have a few quid left over.
Will Tyson fight Joshua before he retires? That's the question. Based on his available other options to make such riches I would say yes. And that's possibly a TKO loss also but good luck Tyson, time to get paid! At last!

fury for his size is very quick and agile big heart he is natural fighter, him and floyd have grown up the same. lived and breathed boxing obvious not comparing there skills. the boy can box,people hate tyson and are blinded by his ability .he has more then a punchers chance

Delighted this is getting made, should be entertaining.

I'd love to see Tyson do it but just can't see anything other than a late stoppage win for Wlad

It will be interesting to see Wlad challenged against Tysons size and style though

It seems a little strange to me when (admittedly mostly casuals) say Wlad will blast Fury out inside a couple of rounds.

sub 6 foot Cruiserweights like Mormeck & Lepai manage to extend him to about round 5 on average and Eddie Chambers was 10 seconds away from lasting the distance.

If Fury boxes smart and sensible, a man as cautious as Wlad will take every precaution possible vs the much younger, taller, bigger and (arguably) faster man.

I wouldn't be at all surprised if this went the distance and Fury wins a good few rounds and poses Klitschko a lot of problems.

not that Fury deserves a shot...but who does these days?

still its a fun fight

exciting while it lasts

Maxsplit wrote:It seems a little strange to me when (admittedly mostly casuals) say Wlad will blast Fury out inside a couple of rounds.

sub 6 foot Cruiserweights like Mormeck & Lepai manage to extend him to about round 5 on average and Eddie Chambers was 10 seconds away from lasting the distance.

If Fury boxes smart and sensible, a man as cautious as Wlad will take every precaution possible vs the much younger, taller, bigger and (arguably) faster man.

I wouldn't be at all surprised if this went the distance and Fury wins a good few rounds and poses Klitschko a lot of problems.

and fury can box he has shown in fights

Maxsplit wrote:It seems a little strange to me when (admittedly mostly casuals) say Wlad will blast Fury out inside a couple of rounds.

sub 6 foot Cruiserweights like Mormeck & Lepai manage to extend him to about round 5 on average and Eddie Chambers was 10 seconds away from lasting the distance.

If Fury boxes smart and sensible, a man as cautious as Wlad will take every precaution possible vs the much younger, taller, bigger and (arguably) faster man.

I wouldn't be at all surprised if this went the distance and Fury wins a good few rounds and poses Klitschko a lot of problems.

It does go both ways. Fury has been put down by small heavyweights. Wlad hits harder than those who have decked him so it is a worry that he might get blasted out.

freddydoesdallas wrote:

Maxsplit wrote:It seems a little strange to me when (admittedly mostly casuals) say Wlad will blast Fury out inside a couple of rounds.

sub 6 foot Cruiserweights like Mormeck & Lepai manage to extend him to about round 5 on average and Eddie Chambers was 10 seconds away from lasting the distance.

If Fury boxes smart and sensible, a man as cautious as Wlad will take every precaution possible vs the much younger, taller, bigger and (arguably) faster man.

I wouldn't be at all surprised if this went the distance and Fury wins a good few rounds and poses Klitschko a lot of problems.

It does go both ways. Fury has been put down by small heavyweights. Wlad hits harder than those who have decked him so it is a worry that he might get blasted out.

wlad dont like being taged at all

brilo33 wrote:

freddydoesdallas wrote:

Maxsplit wrote:It seems a little strange to me when (admittedly mostly casuals) say Wlad will blast Fury out inside a couple of rounds.

sub 6 foot Cruiserweights like Mormeck & Lepai manage to extend him to about round 5 on average and Eddie Chambers was 10 seconds away from lasting the distance.

If Fury boxes smart and sensible, a man as cautious as Wlad will take every precaution possible vs the much younger, taller, bigger and (arguably) faster man.

I wouldn't be at all surprised if this went the distance and Fury wins a good few rounds and poses Klitschko a lot of problems.

It does go both ways. Fury has been put down by small heavyweights. Wlad hits harder than those who have decked him so it is a worry that he might get blasted out.

wlad dont like being taged at all

I'm guessing nobody actually likes getting whacked but wlad has adapted his tactics to avoid being hit. So far, it seems as if Fury hasn't.

freddydoesdallas wrote:

Maxsplit wrote:It seems a little strange to me when (admittedly mostly casuals) say Wlad will blast Fury out inside a couple of rounds.

sub 6 foot Cruiserweights like Mormeck & Lepai manage to extend him to about round 5 on average and Eddie Chambers was 10 seconds away from lasting the distance.

If Fury boxes smart and sensible, a man as cautious as Wlad will take every precaution possible vs the much younger, taller, bigger and (arguably) faster man.

I wouldn't be at all surprised if this went the distance and Fury wins a good few rounds and poses Klitschko a lot of problems.

It does go both ways. Fury has been put down by small heavyweights. Wlad hits harder than those who have decked him so it is a worry that he might get blasted out.

I think Fury had next to zero % respect for the power of the 2 opponents who floored him.

I am sure with Wlad it will be quite the opposite.

Wlad has been down, I think 12 times, and like a true champion now treats everyone with respect. I am sure as the smaller man and given only Haye (almost exclusively at Cruiserweight) had a higher KO% than Fury - he will be very cautious of Tyson.

I am expecting a real stinker until one man takes an obvious lead on the cards, then it could be explosive.

Wlad is certainly the favourite, but he will be 5 months short of 40 when this takes place and at some point a young lion will take him down. It wouldn't surprise me in the slightest if it is Fury.

It does go both ways. Fury has been put down by small heavyweights. Wlad hits harder than those who have decked him so it is a worry that he might get blasted out.[/quote]
wlad dont like being taged at all[/quote]

I'm guessing nobody actually likes getting whacked but wlad has adapted his tactics to avoid being hit. So far, it seems as if Fury hasn't.[/quote]
iam talking about jabs,fury has quicker hands then most he has faced. with power , i would like to see tyson use wlad tactics and lean on him all fight

freddydoesdallas wrote:

brilo33 wrote:

freddydoesdallas wrote:
It does go both ways. Fury has been put down by small heavyweights. Wlad hits harder than those who have decked him so it is a worry that he might get blasted out.

wlad dont like being taged at all

I'm guessing nobody actually likes getting whacked but wlad has adapted his tactics to avoid being hit. So far, it seems as if Fury hasn't.

He has, hardly took a punch in his last two fights. There's no more rushing in and trying to have a fight, he's learned to keep his distance, head way out of reach and potshot from range. Different style to Wlad but when he boxes like he did against Chisora and Hammer he's very hard to hit.

Maxsplit wrote:It seems a little strange to me when (admittedly mostly casuals) say Wlad will blast Fury out inside a couple of rounds.

sub 6 foot Cruiserweights like Mormeck & Lepai manage to extend him to about round 5 on average and Eddie Chambers was 10 seconds away from lasting the distance.

If Fury boxes smart and sensible, a man as cautious as Wlad will take every precaution possible vs the much younger, taller, bigger and (arguably) faster man.

I wouldn't be at all surprised if this went the distance and Fury wins a good few rounds and poses Klitschko a lot of problems.

Those smaller men were also fairly negative, and there seems to be a widespread belief that Fury 'will at least give it a go', which suggests that he'll open up more and perhaps by doing that leave himself more vulnerable. And while he may not have respected the power of the foes who dropped him, it still doesn't reflect well on his durability that he was dropped fairly hard by two light-punchers, one of whom was considered to lack power even at CW. Considering that Wlad is clearly a big puncher, I can see how people may think that Fury would walk onto something early and not recover, which will likely be much harder to do if he's decked by Wlad's right and not Pajkic's.

That said, for several bouts now Fury seems to have adopted a more cautious approach than he did in the KD fights, so I think he's more mindful of not being hit and I don't think he'll lose early. My concern for him with taking a backfoot approach is that he's not going to make Wlad--who still shows signs of anxiety when pressured--uncomfortable enough by doing that, and I think he may also put himself at the end of Wlad's right hand. Fury is by far the better fighter onside, so if he's going to stick to range I think he should at least try to be as active as possible when in close and Wlad tries to grab him; many fighters seem to immediately stop trying to fight when held, as if they're not allowed to, but there are still good opportunities there to make Wlad uncomfortable in my view.

He has, hardly took a punch in his last two fights. There's no more rushing in and trying to have a fight, he's learned to keep his distance, head way out of reach and potshot from range. Different style to Wlad but when he boxes like he did against Chisora and Hammer he's very hard to hit.

Not only different styles, but different dimensions and abilities too. Fury hasn't shown these lauded boxing skills against anyone but short, slow plodders who walk straight to him, so while I agree that there's been a change in tactics I wonder how he'll fare if he tries the same approach against someone who is 6'6" and far better all-round than Hammer and Chisora.

crusader wrote:

He has, hardly took a punch in his last two fights. There's no more rushing in and trying to have a fight, he's learned to keep his distance, head way out of reach and potshot from range. Different style to Wlad but when he boxes like he did against Chisora and Hammer he's very hard to hit.

Not only different styles, but different dimensions and abilities too. Fury hasn't shown these lauded boxing skills against anyone but short, slow plodders who walk straight to him, so while I agree that there's been a change in tactics I wonder how he'll fare if he tries the same approach against someone who is 6'6" and far better all-round than Hammer and Chisora.

The same thing can be said of Klitschko. When's the last 6'6" or bigger man you seen fight him?