Should Boxing move weigh-ins to the day of the fight?

[Taansend]

Absolutely not.

Those of us over 40 remember how often brain injuries occurred during the same day weigh in era.

The current way isn't perfect but it's better than before.

[ajwesty13]

The trouble I can see is the fighters need to recovery time when making the weight. So if on the same day then you mighty get fighters that gas quicker. .

[Bobbyptsd]

Absolutely not.

Those of us over 40 remember how often brain injuries occurred during the same day weigh in era.

The current way isn't perfect but it's better than before.

I'm inclined to agree with this. I'll pick less guys getting brain damaged over fulfilling some obsessive sense of "justice".

[sucracristo]

new york state athletic commission laws
http://www.dos.ny.gov/athletic/pdfs/201 ... awbook.pdf
§213.14 Weight loss. No boxer shall participate in any
contest or exhibition following weight loss of one
percent or more of body weight within 24 hours prior
to such contest or exhibition, unless otherwise
authorized by the commission.

§214.13 When contestant in championship bout
must Apass the scale.@ All contestants in a
championship bout must pass the scale at noon of the
contest or at an additional weigh-in two hours
thereafter.

[jaclem3]

should be same day. period

[punchoutsb]

should be same day. period

Nah.

[TheWigwam]

Can't believe that people are so adamant that there should be same day weigh ins, I refer again to Daniel Geale, who may well have had life changing injuries if he went in like a zombie against Cotto that night

[Ricky_]

Can't believe that people are so adamant that there should be same day weigh ins, I refer again to Daniel Geale, who may well have had life changing injuries if he went in like a zombie against Cotto that night

It's ignorance.

[TheWigwam]

Can't believe that people are so adamant that there should be same day weigh ins, I refer again to Daniel Geale, who may well have had life changing injuries if he went in like a zombie against Cotto that night

It's ignorance.

It's a bit scary, maybe it's a good thing the sport doesn't listen to its fans for once

[moogie101]

I'd love to get rid of weight cutting full stop & have guys fighting at their natural weight against an opponent of the same weight, seems to be a bigger issue in MMA but getting to a similar situation in boxing.

I fear that same day weigh-ins would just see more fighters pushing their bodies even further to try & get an advantage.

How about a weigh-in the week before. Then the day before & then just before the fight & both fighters have to hit the actual weight required to fight. To further push it some sort of fine/ suspension for boxers who fail to make weight. Yeah we'd get some cancelled fights whilst boxers adjusted but might be the only way to assure fighters were pushing themselves to breaking point.

[moogie101]

Can't believe that people are so adamant that there should be same day weigh ins, I refer again to Daniel Geale, who may well have had life changing injuries if he went in like a zombie against Cotto that night

It's ignorance.

It's a bit scary, maybe it's a good thing the sport doesn't listen to its fans for once

Sadly boxers are going to push their bodies to the extreme to give them some sort of advantage come fight time, that's on the fighters regardless of when the weigh-in's are. So instead we get rid of weight cutting completely

[Ricky_]

It's ignorance.

It's a bit scary, maybe it's a good thing the sport doesn't listen to its fans for once

Sadly boxers are going to push their bodies to the extreme to give them some sort of advantage come fight time, that's on the fighters regardless of when the weigh-in's are. So instead we get rid of weight cutting completely

You can't get rid of weight cutting completely... its up to a fighter what kind of shape he wants to in. Its not possible to regulate what a guys BMI should be when he fights. Smh.

[moogie101]

Sadly boxers are going to push their bodies to the extreme to give them some sort of advantage come fight time, that's on the fighters regardless of when the weigh-in's are. So instead we get rid of weight cutting completely

You can't get rid of weight cutting completely... its up to a fighter what kind of shape he wants to in. Its not possible to regulate what a guys BMI should be when he fights. Smh.

Are you actually aware what weight cutting is? its nothing to do with what sort of shape they're in. Its all about cutting a drastic amount of weight before a weigh-in to hit the target weight, then rehydrating to a higher weight to give him a perceived advantage come ring time.

There is a way to get rid of weight cutting as I've already posted.

"How about a weigh-in the week before, then the day before & then just before the fight & both fighters have to hit the actual weight required to fight. To further push it some sort of fine/ suspension for boxers who fail to make weight. Yeah we'd get some cancelled fights whilst boxers adjusted but might be the only way to assure fighters weren't pushing themselves to breaking point"

[Ricky_]

Are you actually aware what weight cutting is? its nothing to do with what sort of shape they're in.

Yes it is.

[caldo2025]

Boxers negotiate the weight limit for every fight so why can't they also negotiate the rehydration weight the day of the fight? I think that would be the answer to the huge weight disparagement come fight night. This will force these boxers to stay in shape year round like Floyd does. That's what a professional does. For some of these boxers, making weight is more important than winning the damn fight and it's the primary goal. If you look back at the fights where a boxer had trouble making the weight, most of the fights are awful. It's negatively affected the boxing product overall in my opinion.

I think Boxing will be forced to do something eventually. One day a boxer is going to get seriously injured in the ring by an opponent that was 20 pounds heavier and Boxing will then have to answer to it. It will be too late.

[Ricky_]

Boxers negotiate the weight limit for every fight so why can't they also negotiate the rehydration weight the day of the fight?

Seriously? That just constitues a same-day weigh-in.

It's really straight forward:

If there is a same day weighin, inevitably, fighters will dehydrate to make weight. Dehydrated fighters are more likely to perform poorer and take shots to the head. Punching dehydrated people in the head will inevitably lead to serious injury or death.

[The Great John L]

This one pops up about once a month and it is still not a good idea.

Why not? It worked fine for about 100 years.

Having weight classes makes absolutely no sense when there can be 10 or more pounds difference between fighters when they actually get in the ring. The only way weight classes can make any sense with weigh ins 24 hours or more before a fight is if they reduce the number of weight classes drastically. There is a 4 pound difference between jr feather and feather, yet in many title fights in these classes the actual weight difference between the opponents are much greater than the difference between the weight classes.

[JCS]

This one pops up about once a month and it is still not a good idea.

Why not? It worked fine for about 100 years.

Having weight classes makes absolutely no sense when there can be 10 or more pounds difference between fighters when they actually get in the ring. The only way weight classes can make any sense with weigh ins 24 hours or more before a fight is if they reduce the number of weight classes drastically. There is a 4 pound difference between jr feather and feather, yet in many title fights in these classes the actual weight difference between the opponents are much greater than the difference between the weight classes.

For the same reason that people bitch about socialized healthcare in the states.. because it's not what people are used to.

In this case, you're going to suddenly ask athletes to change their weight-cutting ways... How do you think that will go for the next few decades?

I like random weigh-ins prior to a fight. If you weigh in over the weight limit + 10%, you can no longer fight in or below that division.

[Ricky_]

This one pops up about once a month and it is still not a good idea.

Why not? It worked fine for about 100 years.

Having weight classes makes absolutely no sense when there can be 10 or more pounds difference between fighters when they actually get in the ring. The only way weight classes can make any sense with weigh ins 24 hours or more before a fight is if they reduce the number of weight classes drastically. There is a 4 pound difference between jr feather and feather, yet in many title fights in these classes the actual weight difference between the opponents are much greater than the difference between the weight classes.

For the same reason that people bitch about socialized healthcare in the states.. because it's not what people are used to.

In this case, you're going to suddenly ask athletes to change their weight-cutting ways... How do you think that will go for the next few decades?

I like random weigh-ins prior to a fight. If you weigh in over the weight limit + 10%, you can no longer fight in or below that division.

Random weigh-ins similar to random drug tests is a good idea, but missing it and subsequent division ban seems harsh, what if a guy is just being lazy? Maybe all he needs is a warning and will get in better shape for the next fight, in the same division. Everyone is different too in regards to body composition, some fighters weights will remain relatively consistent, others might balloon up, or have thicker skeletons, retain more water, etc, so putting exact numbers on what you can and can't weigh at certain times isn't an exact science. I think a system that compiles data of a fighters random weights + his ring weight is needed, if over the course of 2 or 3 fights a fighter is displaying that he's struggling to get down to the weight in the lead up to the weigh-in, doubled with a lot of weight going back on before getting in the ring, comissions should look at forcing that guy up a division.

[JCS]

Random weigh-ins similar to random drug tests is a good idea, but missing it and subsequent division ban seems harsh, what if a guy is just being lazy? Maybe all he needs is a warning and will get in better shape for the next fight, in the same division. Everyone is different too in regards to body composition, some fighters weights will remain relatively consistent, others might balloon up, or have thicker skeletons, retain more water, etc, so putting exact numbers on what you can and can't weigh at certain times isn't an exact science. I think a system that compiles data of a fighters random weights + his ring weight is needed, if over the course of 2 or 3 fights a fighter is displaying that he's struggling to get down to the weight in the lead up to the weigh-in, doubled with a lot of weight going back on before getting in the ring, comissions should look at forcing that guy up a division.

Do a 3 strike rule then... but it needs to be objective and easy to understand, not some kind of arbitrary subjective measure over time.

If you're 160 and you weigh in over 176 prior to the ring walk (+10%), chances are your time is limited at 160... move up. Make it 11 or 12% if 10% is too harsh.

[The Great John L]

In this case, you're going to suddenly ask athletes to change their weight-cutting ways... How do you think that will go for the next few decades?

And it’s only been about 25 years or so since they asked them to do that very same thing, so I don’t see your point.

As I said, you can keep the day before weigh-in but you have to get rid of close to half of the current weight classes otherwise, what’s the point? The problem with the current situation is that you get some pretty silly weight disparity on the day of a fight, and why have 4 or 5 pound differences in weight classes when the fighters are seldom anywhere close to each other in weight when they actually fight?

[JCS]

In this case, you're going to suddenly ask athletes to change their weight-cutting ways... How do you think that will go for the next few decades?

And it’s only been about 25 years or so since they asked them to do that very same thing, so I don’t see your point.

As I said, you can keep the day before weigh-in but you have to get rid of close to half of the current weight classes otherwise, what’s the point? The problem with the current situation is that you get some pretty silly weight disparity on the day of a fight, and why have 4 or 5 pound differences in weight classes when the fighters are seldom anywhere close to each other in weight when they actually fight?

Going to the day-prior doesn't present a safety issue. Moving the weigh-in AHEAD 24 hours, right before the fight.. does.

[BAD INTENTIONS]

What a world ...

1. Get into a dangerous sport.
2. Make it more dangerous with day before weigh-ins.

Almost all the evidence shows that extreme weight cutting is bad.
Almost every team sport athlete has weight monitoring requirements. Why not boxing?