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Re: Brook v Rios
Posted: 28 Jun 2015, 03:49
by Andrew
crusader wrote:Apparently Top Rank is still considering making Rios-Provo instead, a fight which I prefer to Rios-Brook.
Quoted here that it won't be
http://www.boxingnews24.com/2015/06/aru ... r-fighter/
Would be a grewsome fight though.
Re: Brook v Rios
Posted: 28 Jun 2015, 03:50
by Andrew
Counter-puncher wrote:thechump wrote:sweetscience wrote:wont tell us anything
he needs to fight ANOTHER genuine World Class Welter
fighting only 1 aint good enough
its beginning to annoy me again like it did prior to Porter... it annoys me cause he is good enough to fight the best
Rios is a tough man,never stops coming and i wouldnt be surprised if rios beat brook,id put my money on rios if this fight happened but i wont b paying ppv prices for the fight
For dogs sakes plead don't waste your money betting on Rios.
Brook will fvcking mallet him.
IMO brook doesn't lose a round unless he does something stupid.
Re: Brook v Rios
Posted: 28 Jun 2015, 04:27
by crusader
Dan Rafael was at Arum's house on Friday and said that Provo is still being considered, so I'm not sure what to think. I wonder what type of money Rios would be getting paid to fight Brook, because I think his chances of winning that are much lower than his chances of beating Provo. On the other hand, even if he loses to Brook I can still see there being significant appeal in Rios-Provo, whereas I don't think the reverse is true, and perhaps that's what's meant by Rios-Provo being a 'down the line' fight.
Re: Brook v Rios
Posted: 28 Jun 2015, 04:47
by TJ77
nitro5912 wrote:This is one of the names khan mentions that kell should beat before he will think about a fight.
So let brook beat him, then offer khan the fight, when he bottles it, I'd then go after Garcia and beat him and basically force khan to fight whilst he is praying for floyd to set him up.
Good post
Re: Brook v Rios
Posted: 28 Jun 2015, 05:49
by freddydoesdallas
It's a good fight IF mayweather was being truthful about fighting berto or Mayfield in September as it will put huge pressure on khan to pick a good opponent next time out.
If mayweather is honest then we are heading for brook khan next year as it's Khan's only big fight left as an 'a' side
Re: Brook v Rios
Posted: 28 Jun 2015, 08:09
by SNG
Strange one this, Brook fans will tell you Khan is nobody in the division, doesn't deserve the fight with floyd, Khan hasn't beaten any proper welterweights, isn't a big name anymore, terrible chin, easy nights for brook etc yet they beg for the fight. Does no one else find that odd?
Re: Brook v Rios
Posted: 28 Jun 2015, 08:10
by Andrew
crusader wrote:
Dan Rafael was at Arum's house on Friday and said that Provo is still being considered, so I'm not sure what to think. I wonder what type of money Rios would be getting paid to fight Brook, because I think his chances of winning that are much lower than his chances of beating Provo. On the other hand, even if he loses to Brook I can still see there being significant appeal in Rios-Provo, whereas I don't think the reverse is true, and perhaps that's what's meant by Rios-Provo being a 'down the line' fight.
Put it on another thread about Rios purse for this fight. Going off what he has been paid in the past will be between £500-600k at minimum.
Re: Brook v Rios
Posted: 28 Jun 2015, 08:12
by Counter-puncher
SNG wrote:Strange one this, Brook fans will tell you Khan is nobody in the division, doesn't deserve the fight with floyd, Khan hasn't beaten any proper welterweights, isn't a big name anymore, terrible chin, easy nights for brook etc yet they beg for the fight. Does no one else find that odd?
If I was brooks team I would be pushing for a khan fight too.
Good payday, very much manageable risk.
Re: Brook v Rios
Posted: 28 Jun 2015, 08:14
by SNG
Counter-puncher wrote:SNG wrote:Strange one this, Brook fans will tell you Khan is nobody in the division, doesn't deserve the fight with floyd, Khan hasn't beaten any proper welterweights, isn't a big name anymore, terrible chin, easy nights for brook etc yet they beg for the fight. Does no one else find that odd?
If I was brooks team I would be pushing for a khan fight too.
Good payday, very much manageable risk.
They shouldn't be slating Khan for doing the same thing then.
Re: Brook v Rios
Posted: 28 Jun 2015, 08:16
by Counter-puncher
Don't you just switch off when you see boxing fans double standards nowadays? Good god man you've been posting on here long enough surely? ;;-)
Re: Brook v Rios
Posted: 28 Jun 2015, 08:22
by SNG
Fair point, it just bugged me this morning, or afternoon I should say. I'll put it down the stinking hangover I've got.
Re: Brook v Rios
Posted: 29 Jun 2015, 07:27
by Boxerbeetle
Terry Dooley wrote:It's the either/or thing. You can't support one fighter without "hating" another. There's probably a cracking flowchart to be made if someone can be arsed doing it.
Great idea. If I run short of work this afternoon I'll make a start on the definitive decision tree for boxing fans.
Re: Brook v Rios
Posted: 29 Jun 2015, 14:01
by freddydoesdallas
Terry Dooley wrote:It's the either/or thing. You can't support one fighter without "hating" another. There's probably a cracking flowchart to be made if someone can be arsed doing it.
Or you could just go with:
"I like A."
"A is poo."
Repeat across any topic you can imagine.
what about the people who just think everyone is a pudendum?
Re: Brook v Rios
Posted: 29 Jun 2015, 14:27
by Boxerbeetle
freddydoesdallas wrote:Terry Dooley wrote:It's the either/or thing. You can't support one fighter without "hating" another. There's probably a cracking flowchart to be made if someone can be arsed doing it.
Or you could just go with:
"I like A."
"A is poo."
Repeat across any topic you can imagine.
what about the people who just think everyone is a pudendum?
That's branch one of the decision tree:
"Do you actually like any boxers and/or boxing?"
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If No
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Call them a bum
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Process complete.
Re: Brook v Rios
Posted: 29 Jun 2015, 14:45
by keithmoonhangover
sweetscience wrote:wont tell us anything
he needs to fight ANOTHER genuine World Class Welter
fighting only 1 aint good enough
its beginning to annoy me again like it did prior to Porter... it annoys me cause he is good enough to fight the best
It isn't as easy as Brook clicking his fingers and getting a top fighter. Most of them are unavailable, have fights scheduled or don't want to fight him.
Re: Brook v Rios
Posted: 29 Jun 2015, 15:09
by sweetscience
keithmoonhangover wrote:sweetscience wrote:wont tell us anything
he needs to fight ANOTHER genuine World Class Welter
fighting only 1 aint good enough
its beginning to annoy me again like it did prior to Porter... it annoys me cause he is good enough to fight the best
It isn't as easy as Brook clicking his fingers and getting a top fighter. Most of them are unavailable, have fights scheduled or don't want to fight him.
Clicking your fingers takes seconds ... Not 18 months
Re: Brook v Rios
Posted: 29 Jun 2015, 16:29
by Shirow
Rios isn't bad and when he could drain himself down to lightweight but still perform he really was world class. He doesn't get hit much at all once he gets inside either.
Technically he's better than Porter but Porter is a much bigger, stronger and more athletic pressure fighter. We've seen Brook deal with that so we know he'll be able to deal with Rios. That's the reason this is a disappointment. The only upside would be that if he stopped him it could be favourably compared to Pacman's performance.
Even an elderly and small Marquez would give me more possibilities to ponder and make this feel ppv worthy.
Re: Brook v Rios
Posted: 29 Jun 2015, 17:07
by sweetscience
I can't see this happening in UK .. Rios will want to get paid ... Matchroom are not big spenders
Re: Brook v Rios
Posted: 02 Jul 2015, 20:07
by Finn
Surprised this fight is getting so much negativity. Bam Bam is a good opponent and big name. If brook destroys him i'll be impressed.
Re: Brook v Rios
Posted: 06 Jul 2015, 15:05
by Andrew
Re: Brook v Rios
Posted: 06 Jul 2015, 15:36
by ThereByTheGrace
Has Hearn actually organized a high profile competitive fight this year, or is he still piggy backing om other peoples shows and making mismatches that nobody cares about! He's failed the boxing public this year no doubt!
Re: Brook v Rios
Posted: 06 Jul 2015, 15:47
by freddydoesdallas
ThereByTheGrace wrote:Has Hearn actually organized a high profile competitive fight this year, or is he still piggy backing om other peoples shows and making mismatches that nobody cares about! He's failed the boxing public this year no doubt!
Maybe so but for some reason people keep shelling out for his ppv
Re: Brook v Rios
Posted: 06 Jul 2015, 16:51
by ashedward
ThereByTheGrace wrote:Has Hearn actually organized a high profile competitive fight this year, or is he still piggy backing om other peoples shows and making mismatches that nobody cares about! He's failed the boxing public this year no doubt!
I`m not sure he has,Mitchell-Linares was good and for a title but was it high profile enough,it was part of a quality show imo but lacked a genuine ppv main event but the show would of been £17 of my money on box office if I didn`t attend it and was well worth £80 live plus Selby beat a champion coming over on that show.The July 18th card is quality 2 british title fights one world title fight and Quigg-Martniez which is a quality fight which is pretty high profile imo but he has made any huge fights like Froch-Bute or Froch-Groves this year but who has in this country.He has only put on 3 shows out of 8 which I would deem as acceptable this year on normal sky so he does have to do allot better imo.
Re: Brook v Rios
Posted: 06 Jul 2015, 16:52
by ashedward
ashedward wrote:ThereByTheGrace wrote:Has Hearn actually organized a high profile competitive fight this year, or is he still piggy backing om other peoples shows and making mismatches that nobody cares about! He's failed the boxing public this year no doubt!
I`m not sure he has,Mitchell-Linares was good and for a title but was it high profile enough,it was part of a quality show imo but lacked a genuine ppv main event but the show would of been worth £17 of my money on box office if I didn`t attend it and was well worth £80 live plus Selby beat a champion coming over on that show.The July 18th card is quality 2 british title fights one world title fight and Quigg-Martniez which is a quality fight which is pretty high profile imo but he has made any huge fights like Froch-Bute or Froch-Groves this year but who has in this country.He has only put on 3 shows out of 8 which I would deem as acceptable this year on normal sky so he does have to do allot better imo.
Re: Brook v Rios
Posted: 07 Jul 2015, 01:49
by rossco1111
rios is in a good position. he pulls out the paper views off. He can command a kings ransom and if not no probs he got options in the US. If brook fights 3 easy touches this year its very dissapointing and he will have lost great momentum after porter