Ricky_ wrote:Datsue wrote:diddy wrote:Lmao at Fat Dan's Calzaghe comment. As if he took on all comers. SMH. The dude hid across the pond until the coast was clear and Roy Jones was a horribly faded corpse. Then he came to the States. What a brave man. Spare me, Dan. You're barking up the wrong tree here.
Froch doesn't have anything to prove. Not to me, anyway. Brilliant career.
Do I think Froch would've beaten JC? No. I don't. But that's besides the point. The point is Rafael acted as if JC was fearless and took on all comers in their prime. Absolutely not the case.
We have severe ideological differences, but can I just say that's a fantastically clear-headed post.
Trouble with Froch is he hasn't had any big time wins. He lost to a semi-retired Kessler before beating the retired version. Bute was a glass jawed hypejob already exposed by Andrade (& kod by a much smaller golovkin in the ams). Taylor & Groves were good wins but not exactly the 'big time'.
At no point has he even been #1 in his own division and when he faught the #1 he wasn't even competitive.
His 2 fight saga with Groves and the nature of the finish has baught him a ticket to the big time. A ticket most fighters can only dream of. Genuine ppv draw. He's a fool to hang em up rather than cash his ticket. Golovkin is big time and this is Froch's last chance to make a shitton of money and oit himself against the p4p best.
This.
And people seem to have selective memories, Froch fought the run of opponents he (rightly) gets credit for because he couldn't sell out his local pub so he had nowhere to go and didn't hold any of the cards - he had no choice but to face the top boys to get recognised. Since Eddie Hearn has turned him into a PPV star in the UK he hasn't fought Ward again, didn't fight Stevenson, made no noises about moving up to capture a belt at LHW, won't fight GGG, won't fight Degale and almost got beat by Groves. If Eddie had been managing his career in the early days, he'd have never fought all these guys he gets credit for now.
Not that I blame him - he's just doing what all fighters do if they can - fight the lowest risk for the highest reward..... he's been hiding up for the past 4/5 years, just like people criticised Calzaghe for.
Let's not also forget that during his run of fighting the best in the division he got beat by Ward with one hand, beat by Kessler, 15 seconds from getting beat by Taylor, arguably got beat by Dirrell and laboured to a MD against a 41 year old Glen Johnson.
He's had a great career and I applaud him for it, but he's not quite the brilliant warrior he, or a lot of us Brits, like to paint him out to be.
