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I have also been bored with the recent past / near future schedule. We had Bradley - Vargas and we're about to get Price - Teper. That's the best we get in a month or more? *yawn* If a calendar year of boxing was this June and July multiplied by 6, it would be like the worst year of boxing that has ever gone down in the books.

You know it's slow on BoxRec as well. There are 3 recent threads by Bnovelist.

diddy wrote:

Counter-puncher wrote:

diddy wrote:Yeah sorry I don't care about these fights you guys are mentioning. They have no real impact at world level.

When was the last time somebody brought it to your attention that you're a fvcking idiot?

I bet it wasn't long ago

I'm gonna let you in on a little secret. Nobody nationally gives a crap about domestic fighters like Carl Frampton and Scott Quigg. Frampton is a very nice fighter but him fighting as a -4500 favorite against a journeyman isnt going to excite a soul outside of his hometown folk. Waste of time fight. No one in the States cares. No one outside of UK cares. People nationally will care when Frampton fights Santa Cruz or Rigondeaux or Mares or Russell or Lomo or even Donaire.

How can anyone look at the current schedule and be enthused by anything on it? Thurman vs Collazo. Garcia vs Paulie. Complete and utter wastes of time. Kovalev as a -10000 favorite. AA-Stieglitz FOUR to see who the 10th best super middleweight in the world is....super exciting stuff.

If you cant tell I'm super disenchanted by the road this sport has been on for a while now and there's no end in sight to this sorry road.

I cant believe there are people that are actually trying to argue with me that I should care about this June-July-August slate of GARBAGE.

I couldn't agree more. I think it's the British Invasion, army of idiots, excited about Peter Frampton vs Santa Claus or something like that . We should be all excited about this one?

So if some these small weight fights no good enough so when the next good fight...

diddy wrote:

Counter-puncher wrote:

diddy wrote:Yeah sorry I don't care about these fights you guys are mentioning. They have no real impact at world level.

When was the last time somebody brought it to your attention that you're a fvcking idiot?

I bet it wasn't long ago

Actually. Quite the contrary. In fact most I know seek me out for my boxing opinion. And my opinion is this is a very crap time on the boxing calendar. The summer is not typically this horrendous.

Funny how everyone on a boxing forum thinks you're an idiot.

cocka09 wrote:

diddy wrote:

Counter-puncher wrote: When was the last time somebody brought it to your attention that you're a fvcking idiot?

I bet it wasn't long ago

Actually. Quite the contrary. In fact most I know seek me out for my boxing opinion. And my opinion is this is a very crap time on the boxing calendar. The summer is not typically this horrendous.

Funny how everyone on a boxing forum thinks you're an idiot.

Anyone who thinks they know what "everyone on a boxing forum thinks" could be argued by some to be an idiot.

Thurman v Collazo and Garcia v Paulie and Abraham v Stieglitz IV pretty much says it all. However, looking at it negatively does not change it. Look for future prospects like Shimmel v Thomas.

Cock,

Gonna take a crazy, super wild guess.

You're British?

So easy to tweak you guys. It's great.

to call Diddy an idiot is laughable. Might be the sharpest guy on this board sure he is brash at times and likes to push people's buttons but the guy knows his stuff and he's right again here.

rzagza wrote:to call Diddy an idiot is laughable. Might be the sharpest guy on this board sure he is brash at times and likes to push people's buttons but the guy knows his stuff and he's right again here.

world ranked wrote:So if some these small weight fights no good enough so when the next good fight...

...how about July 25th-Ramirez Vs Hernandez at Cruiserweight?

Boxing Prospect wrote:

world ranked wrote:So if some these small weight fights no good enough so when the next good fight...

...how about July 25th-Ramirez Vs Hernandez at Cruiserweight?

You know what would make the cruiser division more exciting? Not having a cruiser division. It is by and large ignored by the world media. Always been this way it seems and it's been around like 40 years and the only thing most fans know about it is it's where Evander Holyfield fought early in his career. When is the last time a cruiserweight fight was on HBO or Showtime? I honestly cant even remember. It is truly the bastard division of boxing. Just get rid of it at this point.

diddy wrote:

Boxing Prospect wrote:

world ranked wrote:So if some these small weight fights no good enough so when the next good fight...

...how about July 25th-Ramirez Vs Hernandez at Cruiserweight?

You know what would make the cruiser division more exciting? Not having a cruiser division. It is by and large ignored by the world media. Always been this way it seems and it's been around like 40 years and the only thing most fans know about it is it's where Evander Holyfield fought early in his career. When is the last time a cruiserweight fight was on HBO or Showtime? I honestly cant even remember. It is truly the bastard division of boxing. Just get rid of it at this point.

You know what would make you seem less like an pudendum?
If you don't like the Cruiserweights, the lowers weights, fights outside of the US...then really what do you like? Why even bother following the sport if there's only a handful of fighter who you give two shits about? You're quickly seeming like a casual fan who will only be interested when it's someone who HBO, or another US TV channel has hyped to the extremes.

The Cruiserweight division has, over the last 3 or 4 years, delivered more excitement than pretty much any division in the sport. Fights like Lebedev Vs G. Jones, Kalenga Vs Lebedev, Wladrcyzk Vs Chakhkiev, Huck Vs Afolabi I/II/III, Huck Vs Arslan and Afolabi Vs Ramirez have all been blood and guts wards. If you doubt the excitement of the division then you need to get your head from up your arse or start following another sport, I advise cock fighting.

I wasnt aware I was the one in charge of televising cruiserweight fights. Or strawweight fights. Are you actually arguing the popularity of these divisions? They are NEVER televised nationally. I dont doubt the "excitement" of the cruiser division, I doubt the popularity of it. Fights dont have to be in the States to be televised nationally. Klitschko fights on national TV basically every fight and fights in the States next to never.

diddy wrote:I wasnt aware I was the one in charge of televising cruiserweight fights. Or strawweight fights. Are you actually arguing the popularity of these divisions? They are NEVER televised nationally. I dont doubt the "excitement" of the cruiser division, I doubt the popularity of it. Fights dont have to be in the States to be televised nationally. Klitschko fights on national TV basically every fight and fights in the States next to never.

Again, so when is the next big fight in ur opinion.

diddy wrote:I wasnt aware I was the one in charge of televising cruiserweight fights. Or strawweight fights. Are you actually arguing the popularity of these divisions? They are NEVER televised nationally. I dont doubt the "excitement" of the cruiser division, I doubt the popularity of it. Fights dont have to be in the States to be televised nationally. Klitschko fights on national TV basically every fight and fights in the States next to never.

Whats them being televised in the US got to do with the state of boxing on a "world level"? Sounds like a cop out for you being a lazy fan unable, or unwilling, to hunt down a stream or a youtube vide, or even a download, of the fights in question. "Oh they aren't on my TV so they don't matter bwaaaah".

The Cruiserweight fights in Germany and Russia often dwarf the figures of fights in the US, fights in Russia are often streamed LEGALLY and FREE online with Russia Sport 2.

You're doubting the popularity of a division that saw Huck fight Arslan in front of 3.36 million German TV viewers, what the hell does that say about the state of US boxing then? The most popular US fighters can hardly draw that number. Heck Kazuto Ioka at Flyweight drew something in the region of 15million at the end of last year in Japan.

"Nationally televised" is a ridiculous term, US TV doesn't have the right to decide what has "world level implications". Heck, what is "nationally televised" for you isn't nationally televised for me, or many others on this site. If we're playing the "my country is bigger than your country" game the biggest fight being shown to national audience this month comes from Macau where free Chinese TV will be potentially be carrying the Ik Yang fight...

Fights not taking place on mainstream US TV doesn't mean boxing is having a slow period, it means you're too fornicating lazy to actually follow the sport you seem to regard yourself as an expert in.

Boxing Prospect wrote:

diddy wrote:I wasnt aware I was the one in charge of televising cruiserweight fights. Or strawweight fights. Are you actually arguing the popularity of these divisions? They are NEVER televised nationally. I dont doubt the "excitement" of the cruiser division, I doubt the popularity of it. Fights dont have to be in the States to be televised nationally. Klitschko fights on national TV basically every fight and fights in the States next to never.

Whats them being televised in the US got to do with the state of boxing on a "world level"? Sounds like a cop out for you being a lazy fan unable, or unwilling, to hunt down a stream or a youtube vide, or even a download, of the fights in question. "Oh they aren't on my TV so they don't matter bwaaaah".

The Cruiserweight fights in Germany and Russia often dwarf the figures of fights in the US, fights in Russia are often streamed LEGALLY and FREE online with Russia Sport 2.

You're doubting the popularity of a division that saw Huck fight Arslan in front of 3.36 million German TV viewers, what the hell does that say about the state of US boxing then? The most popular US fighters can hardly draw that number. Heck Kazuto Ioka at Flyweight drew something in the region of 15million at the end of last year in Japan.

"Nationally televised" is a ridiculous term, US TV doesn't have the right to decide what has "world level implications". Heck, what is "nationally televised" for you isn't nationally televised for me, or many others on this site. If we're playing the "my country is bigger than your country" game the biggest fight being shown to national audience this month comes from Macau where free Chinese TV will be potentially be carrying the Ik Yang fight...

Fights not taking place on mainstream US TV doesn't mean boxing is having a slow period, it means you're too effing lazy to actually follow the sport you seem to regard yourself as an expert in.

Again the thinking is if its not talked about in the US its not a big fight. I'm with you I see fights for world titles, top 5-10 guys fighting each this weekend where really see that in BIG FIGHT realm. I'm entertained by these fights are there competive world class fights.

The U.S is the Mecca of boxing, no?

Ask Carl Froch. He says it himself.

diddy wrote:The U.S is the Mecca of boxing, no?

Ask Carl Froch. He says it himself.

The only thing I've heard Carl Froch say recently is "remember when I knocked out George Groves in front of 80,000 people in Wembley"...doesn't seem like US is mentioned there...

..though it's great you're quoting a guy who hasn't fought for over a year

...it's also great how, in the opening post, you mentioned Stieglitz Vs Abraham IV, which of course isn't shown on US TV (though will be shown on "national TV" in Germany and will draw multiple million viewers...).

Boxing is one of the most GLOBAL sports, it's a sport where the US casual fans thinks it dominates, in reality however great fights take place around the world on a regular basis, the top TV figures and biggest crowd numbers are outside of the US, fights are more regularly stream on "national television" in Thailand than they are in the US.

The only thing the US has that others don't is the money, they money of fighting in the US tends to dwarf what top fighters earn in other places. That however doesn't dictate what a "big fight" is or what an "exciting fight" is.

Boxing Prospect wrote:

diddy wrote:The U.S is the Mecca of boxing, no?

Ask Carl Froch. He says it himself.

The only thing I've heard Carl Froch say recently is "remember when I knocked out George Groves in front of 80,000 people in Wembley"...doesn't seem like US is mentioned there...

..though it's great you're quoting a guy who hasn't fought for over a year

...it's also great how, in the opening post, you mentioned Stieglitz Vs Abraham IV, which of course isn't shown on US TV (though will be shown on "national TV" in Germany and will draw multiple million viewers...).

Boxing is one of the most GLOBAL sports, it's a sport where the US casual fans thinks it dominates, in reality however great fights take place around the world on a regular basis, the top TV figures and biggest crowd numbers are outside of the US, fights are more regularly stream on "national television" in Thailand than they are in the US.

The only thing the US has that others don't is the money, they money of fighting in the US tends to dwarf what top fighters earn in other places. That however doesn't dictate what a "big fight" is or what an "exciting fight" is.

Froch indeed mentioned it in regards to wanting to fight in Vegas or New York. I only mentioned AA-Stieglitz part 4 to note how ridiculous it is that those guys are fighting for a 4th time. It doesnt matter one iota who wins or loses, and thats one of the GOOD fights on the docket?!

I want fights that, ya know, MEAN SOMETHING in the grand scheme. Is that too much to ask? Apparently yes.

diddy wrote:

Boxing Prospect wrote:

world ranked wrote:So if some these small weight fights no good enough so when the next good fight...

...how about July 25th-Ramirez Vs Hernandez at Cruiserweight?

You know what would make the cruiser division more exciting? Not having a cruiser division. It is by and large ignored by the world media. Always been this way it seems and it's been around like 40 years and the only thing most fans know about it is it's where Evander Holyfield fought early in his career. When is the last time a cruiserweight fight was on HBO or Showtime? I honestly cant even remember. It is truly the bastard division of boxing. Just get rid of it at this point.

I truly don't understand why cruiserweight isn't more popular. They're fornicating big dudes, the same size as most old style heavyweights, and they fight at a fast pace and the fights are good. It's stupid that people follow heavyweight and will pay to watch two guys terrified of punching each other in case they get KO'd when they could watch cruiserweight fights and see some genuine action.

Even I'm guilty of this I'll admit. The last time I was really following cruiser was when Haye was at the weight. But it's a good division.

This thread has been rendered irrelevant. SSM v Mayorga II has been announced

I dont think its a slow boring time at all.
Whilst PBC may be upsetting a few people the cards they are putting on are entertaining. The fights today were good and worth watching and there are many more competitive bouts coming up, not just on PBC.
It doesnt really bother me if belts are on the line or number 1 fights number 2, as long as the bouts are competitive and thats what we are seeing.
Boxing is alive and well and i think some people need to look at the positives of the sport instead of constantly looking at the negatives.

DARLEYS PEREZ V ANTHONY CROLLA . WBA World Lightweight Title
crolla deserve his chance,and after everything that has happend would be something if he won

As much as I dislike the tone & content of diddy's pronouncements sometimes, this weekend--with its plethora of head-clashes (whether or not skullduggery was needed to turn the result into a TKO, cough-cough Thurman fight cough cough, or whether or not someone's eyebrow fell off a la Senor Herrera), accidental shoulder-clashes turned into TKO's, Rodriguez's inability to get going in Cebu City & a bunch of undercards from Hell--turned out pretty much how he predicted.

One for diddy there, I reckon.