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Re: Consensus top prospects who never made the grade

Posted: 20 Jul 2015, 15:44
by SteveDow
Pele Reid was one who was touted as a big heavyweight prospect and who amounted to nothing.

Ismayl Sillakh has been a big disappointment to me. I really thought he'd be a fairly dominant light heavyweight champion at one point but clearly can't take a shot.

Re: Consensus top prospects who never made the grade

Posted: 20 Jul 2015, 16:23
by Old bones Ian
Kelcie Banks was a top amateur, he was touted as gold medal contender at the Seoul olympics, but got knocked out in the first round by Regilio Tuur.
He turned pro and there were still high hopes, but in his 2nd fight he got knocked out in the 3rd round. He stayed in the pro's , but never made an impact, being used as a name for Ike Quartey on his rise up the ranks, Ike stopped him in the 7th.

Re: Consensus top prospects who never made the grade

Posted: 20 Jul 2015, 16:33
by mike john
manny steward raved about a guy he trained called octavio lara, "the next tommy hearns" and all that, lost 2 of his only 9 fights and called it a day

kostya tszyu managed a fighter named anton solopov who was highly regarded, got knocked out 3 times in 20 fights

Re: Consensus top prospects who never made the grade

Posted: 20 Jul 2015, 18:09
by bripez
Boxerbeetle wrote:
davie wrote:
MarkMcBurney wrote:Too early to say Tom Stalker?
I've never seen anything from Stalker to make me believe he would make it past domestic level
Yeah I don't think Stalker was ever considered a top prospect?
Stalker was (I think) the European champion and world number 1 going into the Olympics.

Given this and that he has continued to be a full time boxer with the advantages that brings, I can't see him reaching British title level which is surely less than his backers would have expected.

Re: Consensus top prospects who never made the grade

Posted: 20 Jul 2015, 19:18
by Jon Saxon
Mathew Ellis.

Re: Consensus top prospects who never made the grade

Posted: 21 Jul 2015, 03:00
by banjo
What was the name of that Irish lad who won Olympic gold in 1992 who went on to do not much as a pro?

Re: Consensus top prospects who never made the grade

Posted: 21 Jul 2015, 04:04
by johnswan1
banjo wrote:What was the name of that Irish lad who won Olympic gold in 1992 who went on to do not much as a pro?
Michael Caruth. Lost his 7th pro bout in a 6 rounder against an opponent with a 15-14-2 record. Went on to fight for the WBO Welterweight title (at a time when it was less recognised) and lost a majority decision in Germany to Mihai Leu, who himself due to injury didn't fight again and retired undefeated. He then took up a career in motor racing where he went on to become a national rally champion.

Re: Consensus top prospects who never made the grade

Posted: 21 Jul 2015, 04:06
by handsofstone
A bit off topic but I wonder how Darren Sutherland would have progressed by now, he always stood out from the rest of the 2008 Olympians, it was a tragedy

Re: Consensus top prospects who never made the grade

Posted: 21 Jul 2015, 04:09
by johnswan1
handsofstone wrote:A bit off topic but I wonder how Darren Sutherland would have progressed by now, he always stood out from the rest of the 2008 Olympians, it was a tragedy
Yes, Sutherland would have slotted in nicely alongside DeGale/Groves/Froch. Given their Olympic history it probably would have been Sutherland who would go on to have the heavily hyped rivalry with DeGale that Groves had. I wonder if he was still around would he still be managed by Kellie.

Re: Consensus top prospects who never made the grade

Posted: 21 Jul 2015, 04:10
by ste1983
handsofstone wrote:A bit off topic but I wonder how Darren Sutherland would have progressed by now, he always stood out from the rest of the 2008 Olympians, it was a tragedy
I often think that especially this year or so with many of the 'class of 2008' getting to in/around world title level. Just how would Sutherland's career be going now. As you say a real tragedy.

Re: Consensus top prospects who never made the grade

Posted: 21 Jul 2015, 04:26
by banjo
johnswan1 wrote:
banjo wrote:What was the name of that Irish lad who won Olympic gold in 1992 who went on to do not much as a pro?
Michael Caruth. Lost his 7th pro bout in a 6 rounder against an opponent with a 15-14-2 record. Went on to fight for the WBO Welterweight title (at a time when it was less recognised) and lost a majority decision in Germany to Mihai Leu, who himself due to injury didn't fight again and retired undefeated. He then took up a career in motor racing where he went on to become a national rally champion.
Wow that's good to hear he didn't just fade away.

Re: Consensus top prospects who never made the grade

Posted: 21 Jul 2015, 04:41
by dhb-raging bull
Never saw him fight he was before my time but there's a local boxer to me who was a top amateur by the name of marc epton who turned pro had a couple of fights and never boxed again apparently he was a really good amateur

Re: Consensus top prospects who never made the grade

Posted: 21 Jul 2015, 04:51
by Boxing Prospect
Tony Jeffries? He was more Tom Stalker I guess than a really A grade prospect.

Re: Consensus top prospects who never made the grade

Posted: 21 Jul 2015, 04:58
by black panther
Terry Dooley wrote:People raved about Francisco Bojado only for it all to go nipples skywards.

Yeah Bojado looked mustard on his way up. Had bags of talent. Maybe Mayweather Snr ruined him or maybe he lacked the discipline. Something was missing there but like I say, the raw talent was definitely there.

Re: Consensus top prospects who never made the grade

Posted: 21 Jul 2015, 07:24
by keithmoonhangover
Dave and John Dolan.

Re: Consensus top prospects who never made the grade

Posted: 21 Jul 2015, 08:03
by bripez
Jon Saxon wrote:Mathew Ellis.
I cant remember who it was but he was described as the "first billion dollar boxer" - there was obviously a bit of PR bull involved but big things were predicted at the time.

I think that Roman Greenberg was also described as the first billion dollar boxer too !

Re: Consensus top prospects who never made the grade

Posted: 21 Jul 2015, 08:26
by whiskey
Odlanier Solis.

Re: Consensus top prospects who never made the grade

Posted: 21 Jul 2015, 08:27
by whiskey
Add Luis Garcia to the list too.

Re: Consensus top prospects who never made the grade

Posted: 21 Jul 2015, 08:33
by freddydoesdallas
Was Greenburg ever really considered a top prospect or was he just getting a lot of coverage due to being jewish?

Re: Consensus top prospects who never made the grade

Posted: 21 Jul 2015, 12:20
by Leonid
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Re: Consensus top prospects who never made the grade

Posted: 21 Jul 2015, 12:28
by crusader
The infamous March 2004 cover :lol:

Re: Consensus top prospects who never made the grade

Posted: 21 Jul 2015, 12:49
by PredatorHayds
Ring got that spot on :doh:

I remember Appleby getting 100k for a British title fight. Unheard of At that weight.

John Murray was the best amateur I've ever seen. I'd of put my house on him being world champion.

Re: Consensus top prospects who never made the grade

Posted: 21 Jul 2015, 17:21
by reggaereggae
Michael Grant (the U.S. heavyweight one)

Re: Consensus top prospects who never made the grade

Posted: 21 Jul 2015, 17:25
by Finch
Don Broadhurst?

Re: Consensus top prospects who never made the grade

Posted: 21 Jul 2015, 18:09
by roy
[quote="dhb-raging bull"]Never saw him fight he was before my time but there's a local boxer to me who was a top amateur by the name of marc epton who turned pro had a couple of fights and never boxed again apparently he was a really good amateur[/q

In the book "Paddy and the prince" it claims that Epton was lined up for a British title fight but decided to retire after being outclassed by a 16 year-old Naz in sparring.