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Capricorn1 wrote:

sucracristo wrote:

Capricorn1 wrote:compared to what boxing generates yearly

how much does "boxing" generate yearly? how many expenses can you list that a local
promoter has to pay for out of pocket in order to stage an event in a small venue of a few
hundred or maybe as many as 2,000 attendees? then list what you think the revenue streams
are and what you think their totals are to come up with a balance sheet. this should be fun.

Boxing clearly generates hundreds of Millions of Pounds/Dollars every single year at least - so for sanctioned professional bouts it's not a problem, how much these devices cost (they are said to be fairly low cost) and the answers to your other questions are things i don't know .... if you could shed some light on some of the answers for us all i'm sure everyone would appreciate it though
Maybe the World Governing Bodies or even the host nation of said bouts could invest in providing these, maybe Ambulances at fight venues should or do have these.

look, worldwide pro "boxing" is not an entity that pays for things or has revenues and expenses you can just tax like this.
that is why i asked you a specific question about how cards are paid for. you saying "not a problem...compared to what
boxing generates" is vapid. someone has to pay for it for every card in your scenario. who pays for it and how?
you can't just reply "perhaps you can explain how boxing works" when asked how you are going to pay for this.
bringing up magomed is also dragging everyone down into the weeds. there were ambulances right there by law and he
should have been put on one as a routine matter after a tough fight like that and the sooner he arrived at the hospital
where he could be treated would have improved the medical outcome. the tragedy is he was tossed out into the street
after the fight puking and dizzy and had to call a cab. the ring doctors on that card were obviously useless. immediate brain
scanning is not the issue. getting fast medical treatment as a routine matter after any tough fight or on first sign of concussion
is the issue. even if they are kept for observation at the hospital for a few hours and released you have probably eliminated
90% of the chances of a mogomed scenario developing

In a perfect world pal, this would be a responsible way to conduct the sport of boxing. In reality, THIS WILL NEVER HAPPEN or anything even close to it. No sport hovers closer to the dark side than boxing. I'm pretty sure Meldrick Taylor is still able to fight in most states.

Just look at the way Boxing handles these boxers that are knocked out cold in the ring. Some states only require the boxer to stay idle for 6 months and they don't even need to have a scan to be cleared to fight again.

Boxing is way behind the times. Boxers still do not have a union or players association to fight for boxer's rights. They have no pensions or medical care after their careers are over. Unfortunately, I agree with one of the former posts that the sport will cease to exist before they employ scans between rounds. One of these days soon, we are going to see a death in the ring in a highly publicized fight and government will finally step in.

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look, worldwide pro "boxing" is not an entity that pays for things or has revenues and expenses you can just tax like this.
that is why i asked you a specific question about how cards are paid for. you saying "not a problem...compared to what
boxing generates" is vapid. someone has to pay for it for every card in your scenario. who pays for it and how?
you can't just reply "perhaps you can explain how boxing works" when asked how you are going to pay for this.
bringing up magomed is also dragging everyone down into the weeds. there were ambulances right there by law and he
should have been put on one as a routine matter after a tough fight like that and the sooner he arrived at the hospital
where he could be treated would have improved the medical outcome. the tragedy is he was tossed out into the street
after the fight puking and dizzy and had to call a cab. the ring doctors on that card were obviously useless. immediate brain
scanning is not the issue. getting fast medical treatment as a routine matter after any tough fight or on first sign of concussion
is the issue. even if they are kept for observation at the hospital for a few hours and released you have probably eliminated
90% of the chances of a mogomed scenario developing[/quote]

Precisely - there isn't some central authority called 'boxing.'

If anything the only way this would work, is if the fighters own cornermen had the device, it would either be them,

It also matters little if they have a scanner, if the medical facilities don't exist to treat the fighter.

As my learned colleague above makes clear, this is the major issue.

It might seem like a nice idea to have these hand held devices, but they would have very little impact on the health of fighters, and would mean you would need to have much longer breaks in between rounds to realistically do this.

Unless of course you had nano-particles which constantly monitored a fighters overall health, and then sent constant reports back to medical team at ringside.

That, as mad as it may sound, is a more realistic and likely proposition than what you are talking about, and is probably less than 50 years off at the rate this technology is advancing. When it does become widely available, nano health technology, will be incredibly cheap.

Thanks for all your input into this subject guys it's been interesting reading